When does optimism meet reality?

[GreenFaith1819]

No. Unfortunately I don't think this team is going to make much noise in the playoffs. While yes, they can get up for the occasional "big game" (i.e. Lakers, Cavs), this team has also shown plenty of times since Christmas that they're more than willing to roll over for lesser teams and haven't consistently been able to beat any of the top 3 other teams in the East. I tend to look more at actual fact and less on what "might" happen when this team throws the switch come playoff time.

And by the way to nickagneta, I didn't mean any disrespect. I was just giving my opinion on an open blogpost. It's always nice when people who have been here a while make the newbies feel welcome. 

That's the thing - you ARE welcomed here, themanthemyththelegend. It's ok to call it as you see it. No worries here.

But as for me, I see some fight in Boston. Our history is too rich with comebacks, improbable wins.

I'll be the first to give a virtual handshake on the blog here to anyone who thought differently than I if/once Boston falls in the playoffs. I'll still be here, playing PAP games or Pick Two drafts, even after the season is over. This Blog never sleeps.

[themanthemyththelegend]

Well said, GreenFaith. It's nice to know there are still people out there who don't take debate personally.

I see your point with the injury love for a lot of other teams and not for the C's. Looking at it from the outside, I think that the expectation levels of a lot of these teams are so low that any sort of success they may be having that is cut short by injuries is looked at with an "Awwww..." whereas the C's are seen as a top-flight team that have other all-stars and big time offseason acquisitions that should have no problem picking up the slack when the injury bug bites.

It's not fair, but it seems to make a better story. 

[nickagneta]

No. Unfortunately I don't think this team is going to make much noise in the playoffs. While yes, they can get up for the occasional "big game" (i.e. Lakers, Cavs), this team has also shown plenty of times since Christmas that they're more than willing to roll over for lesser teams and haven't consistently been able to beat any of the top 3 other teams in the East. I tend to look more at actual fact and less on what "might" happen when this team throws the switch come playoff time.

And by the way to nickagneta, I didn't mean any disrespect. I was just giving my opinion on an open blogpost. It's always nice when people who have been here a while make the newbies feel welcome.  

Well, when the second post you ever make here has the tone of calling out one of the blog's nicest guys, people are going to get a little irritated. Bahku's post seemed a bit more "rubbed the wrong way" than mine did. Again, your post seemed to irritate another of the blog's nicest guys.

When you do that, don't expect a welcoming committee.

And as I have told a lot of people, in my experience, the people who are usually trying to start drama or be disrespectful or be insulting are the ones that end their posts with "sorry not trying to start any drama" or "sorry, don't mean to be disrespectful" or "sorry, don't mean to insult anyone".

Just the way I see it.

[themanthemyththelegend]

Well, instead of assuming someone's "tone" (seeing as how you were obviously incorrect about it since the person I was directing that "tone" towards had no problem with it) and making up your mind that someone's opinion is "starting drama", maybe you should learn that not everyone has ulterior motives and might just have a genuinely different opinion than you and wants to express it in debate.

I don't know you and I've never written here so it would be nice if you didn't lump me in with any other people you may have had issues with in the past. Because it would be awfully easy to lump you in with all the other unofficial and self-appointed "blog cops" who feel the need to protect people from other people's opinions and accuse people of "blog disruption".

But I don't do that.

[nickagneta]

Well, instead of assuming someone's "tone" (seeing as how you were obviously incorrect about it since the person I was directing that "tone" towards had no problem with it) and making up your mind that someone's opinion is "starting drama", maybe you should learn that not everyone has ulterior motives and might just have a genuinely different opinion than you and wants to express it in debate.

I don't know you and I've never written here so it would be nice if you didn't lump me in with any other people you may have had issues with in the past. Because it would be awfully easy to lump you in with all the other unofficial and self-appointed "blog cops" who feel the need to protect people from other people's opinions and accuse people of "blog disruption".

But I don't do that.

Yeah, I can see that you don't

[MattG12]

Well, instead of assuming someone's "tone" (seeing as how you were obviously incorrect about it since the person I was directing that "tone" towards had no problem with it) and making up your mind that someone's opinion is "starting drama", maybe you should learn that not everyone has ulterior motives and might just have a genuinely different opinion than you and wants to express it in debate.

I don't know you and I've never written here so it would be nice if you didn't lump me in with any other people you may have had issues with in the past. Because it would be awfully easy to lump you in with all the other unofficial and self-appointed "blog cops" who feel the need to protect people from other people's opinions and accuse people of "blog disruption".

But I don't do that.

Yeah, I can see that you don't

lol... I have read through this thread like 3 times and I still have no idea where or how this little argument started. I'm losing it. TPs all around to lighten the mood anyhow!  

Except for Bahku though cuz that guy is a jerk. lol jk karma won't let me!

EDIT: [dang], I can't TP GreenFaith either.

[nickagneta]

Oh and by the way, if you had read the thread through, you would see that I actually don't agree with GreenFaith. I agree with you!!

But I never tried to pigeonhole a person's beliefs into a certain, somewhat insulting corner like you did here:

Sometimes I feel like the whole "never say die" attitude and "don't try to get back on the bandwagon because we REAL FANS don't want you" smacks more of trying to show how much better of a "fan" people are trying to be on this blogsite and less their own real grasp and understanding of the reality of the situation and what this team really isn't going to do in this season's playoffs.

No disrespect meant.

I may not have read your tone right but I am pretty sure a lot of people are going to find that insulting.

If you didn't mean it to be so, fine. We'll let bygones be bygones. No problem.

But as someone new here be aware of the rules which are a bit more stringent here than most sites.

[Bahku]

Well, instead of assuming someone's "tone" (seeing as how you were obviously incorrect about it since the person I was directing that "tone" towards had no problem with it) and making up your mind that someone's opinion is "starting drama", maybe you should learn that not everyone has ulterior motives and might just have a genuinely different opinion than you and wants to express it in debate.

I don't know you and I've never written here so it would be nice if you didn't lump me in with any other people you may have had issues with in the past. Because it would be awfully easy to lump you in with all the other unofficial and self-appointed "blog cops" who feel the need to protect people from other people's opinions and accuse people of "blog disruption".

But I don't do that.

Yeah, I can see that you don't

lol... I have read through this thread like 3 times and I still have no idea where or how this little argument started. I'm losing it. TPs all around to lighten the mood anyhow!  

Except for Bahku though cuz that guy is a jerk. lol jk karma won't let me!

EDIT: [dang], I can't TP GreenFaith either.

I agree ... can't stand that Bahku guy ... I mean, Bahk-Who?!? And what's with that stupid new avatar of his? I think he's the perfect example of why they should bring back the negative TP thing!

[barefacedmonk]

EDIT: [dang], I can't TP GreenFaith either.

I did it for you.

This is a very thoughtful and well written post. Good job, Nick. Lets not make it an optimistics vs pessimistics or realists thread.

[GreenFaith1819]

Well, instead of assuming someone's "tone" (seeing as how you were obviously incorrect about it since the person I was directing that "tone" towards had no problem with it) and making up your mind that someone's opinion is "starting drama", maybe you should learn that not everyone has ulterior motives and might just have a genuinely different opinion than you and wants to express it in debate.

I don't know you and I've never written here so it would be nice if you didn't lump me in with any other people you may have had issues with in the past. Because it would be awfully easy to lump you in with all the other unofficial and self-appointed "blog cops" who feel the need to protect people from other people's opinions and accuse people of "blog disruption".

But I don't do that.

themanthemyth, no one here is accusing you of having ulterior motives. Like I stated earlier, I welcome the different point of view from you. I just see things different concerning our Celtics.

Nick is not a Blog Cop. Like I stated earlier, some threads are certainly more heated than others.

You should see some of the political threads

I took no offense to what you said, and I didn't see any issue with Nick's response to you.

There is no need to escalate it, my friend. You can state your thoughts, like everyone else in the thread, but be aware that others can state theirs, too.

[ACF]

Nick is not a Blog Cop.

That's right. He is a DOG Cop.

 

[nickagneta]

Maybe we should get a mod to merge the last page into the Argue About Nothing thread.

[themanthemyththelegend]

I agree. As the new guy here, there's some language and rules I need to learn.

My bad.

Much respect, GreenFaith. You are calm waters in the stormy, black ocean of CelticsBlog forums.

Man, I can be prolific at times.  

[PosImpos]

At this point, my idea of optimism is feeling confident that the Celtics won't get bounced in the first round.

I'm optimistic that the Celtics will be playing in the 2nd round.

[Bahku]

I agree. As the new guy here, there's some language and rules I need to learn.

My bad.

Much respect, GreenFaith. You are calm waters in the stormy, black ocean of CelticsBlog forums.

Man, I can be prolific at times.  

By the way, welcome! (TP) And don't worry about anything said ... it was a great discussion, and nothing good ever gets done without great discussion. Plus, we never take anything too personal here, except the love we share for our team! (Can you believe it's ME saying this, people?!? lol!)