Celtics (48-28) at Knicks (27-49) 4/6

[MattG12]

What an ABSOLUTE JOKE-----Rondo GOOFING OFF from the start---Pierce CHOKING down the stretch-----I HATE this team-!

And I've been following since 1973.....We SUCK--!!!

If you hate this team don't watch them then, and don't be a fan of them.

Blow me---I been watching EVERY game forever-!

I'd like to set the over-under at 6.5 bud lights.

I'll pick over

hahaha... I never knew we were allowed to say "Blow me" on here... I think I'm gonna say over as well.

[Mike-Dub]

horrible display, particularly the end.  Absolute disgraceful performance from a team that considers itself a contender.

Just so that I have this straight, as I recall from 2 years ago, Danny traded away our youth for vets because young players don't know how to win games and need time to learn how to play the game.  Hmmmm, we now have a team of vets that don't know how to win games and apparently need some time to learn how to play the game PLUS they show no heart or effort when losing.  

How is this an improvement?  Was a single title worth sinking this team for another 2 years ( and most likely more) before we can legitimately talk title contention again?

He traded away our vets for Banner 17 not because young players don't know how to win games.  

And yes, it was worth it because we won our first Championship in 22 frggen years and have been a 60 team in 07-08 and 08-09, and are on our way to our third straight playoffs.  

Yes, to answer you question, it was very much worth it!

[lon3lytoaster]

Well, the Celtics and Red Sox combined to lose me 20 dollars and a dinner with a cute girl.

Good night.

At least White Men Can't Jump is on. Woody cares about playing basketball.

[Mike-Dub]

Well, the Celtics and Red Sox combined to lose me 20 dollars and a dinner with a cute girl.

Good night.

At least White Men Can't Jump is on. Woody cares about playing basketball.

I had the Red Sox on tape what the heck!

Thanks lonelytoaster lol.  I came here to talk about the Celtics game, not know about the outcome of the Red Sox game!

[pengaloo]

I'm going to put on my positive-hat. If the C's didn't care about this game, why should we? Some positives:

-We didn't get too banged up tonight, since no one was driving to the basket, fighting through picks, or fighting for loose balls. On the other spectrum, look at what happened to Toronto, Milwaukee...

-Bench played ok.

-If it's all about health of the team and the team indeed can just "turn it on," then why does it matter if we get the 4th seed?

-Both Allens are looking good right now.

-Rondo was really bad tonight. He can't play worse than he played today.

Lets go get a better draft pick!! Woo-hoo! 

I forgot about that one

Just thought of some others...

-The more "underdog" we are, the bigger the chip on our shoulder, and the better we play.

-Losing could create a sense of urgency, something that we don't really have right now.

-We played with so little passion that we didn't really argue with the refs today. The karma we get from that good will toward the refs will carry over to future games.

-Random scrubs have been killing the C's, but scrubs don't get to play all that much in the playoffs.

-We have lots of new film of lazy plays, poor decisions, and bad defense for the coaching staff to use.

[jdpapa3]

1. Starters flat from the beginning. Embarrassing to all be in double digit negative numbers for the game, except for Garnett who has a monstrous -5.

2. I think KG had some sort of setback a week and a half ago because his defense has taken a major hit. And subsequently, so has the team's. Defensive rating has taken a plummet out of first place. Might think of resting him, because we are in major trouble if he keeps draggin. I was hoping it would get stronger like it did earlier in the season, but he seems to hit a wall and these are the things that happen when you near 40k career minutes.

3. Tony was good in some aspects, but how many layups can you miss man? I don't trust this guy in our rotation.

4. We were getting the majority of the calls. D'Antoni complains. Nothing good happens from the end of the refs after that besides the Duhon call on Pierce, which was clearly a foul. Gallinari got a lot of undeserved free throws. And Sheed apparently isn't allowed to seal his man.

5. Can you really blame the staff for having a strategy of "make the d leaguer beat you?" Because I don't. And oh, he did.

6. Perk's tendinitis kills us. Look at his month by month splits and how far his production dropped off. He should be putting up 26 and 10 in every matchup vs. the Knicks and didn't. His turnovers happen when 2 pts should already be up on the board.

7. I wanted to give Rondo the benefit of the doubt since they were playing a mile off of him, but we pretty much saw where his heart was tonight when he got left in the dust on a simple dribble in the first quarter. Maybe we should hope for a Rondo/Jennings matchup because this guy needs some sort of matchup mental stimulation and Duhon/Douglas apparently weren't worthy of his effort.

8. Can someone tell me why this loss hurts almost as much as the Lakers one? It probably shouldn't since there was little to no effort.

[LB3533]

horrible display, particularly the end.  Absolute disgraceful performance from a team that considers itself a contender.

Just so that I have this straight, as I recall from 2 years ago, Danny traded away our youth for vets because young players don't know how to win games and need time to learn how to play the game.  Hmmmm, we now have a team of vets that don't know how to win games and apparently need some time to learn how to play the game PLUS they show no heart or effort when losing. 

How is this an improvement?  Was a single title worth sinking this team for another 2 years ( and most likely more) before we can legitimately talk title contention again?

He traded away our vets for Banner 17 not because young players don't know how to win games. 

And yes, it was worth it because we won our first Championship in 22 frggen years and have been a 60 team in 07-08 and 08-09, and are on our way to our third straight playoffs. 

Yes, to answer you question, it was very much worth it!

The only younger player I really want back is Jeff Green.

And Jeff Green is not enough to give back Banner 17.

Al Jefferson is a nice 3rd or 4th best player on your team, not a franchise guy at all. He's one dimensional and injury prone a la Yao Ming.

Gomes is a nice reserve player.

Delonte West is a nice role player with too many personal issues which causes him to be unreliable at best.

Young players in the NBA are way overrated (unless you get the can't miss guy).

In baseball, young players can turn out to be Youkalis or Pedroia...good players who actually get the job done, but they are no Albert Pujols or Pablo Sandoval.

[Bahku]

Watching the game for the first time on the CSNNE 2AM re-broadcast, and halfway through the second quarter the starkest reality is that our lack of rebounding, and our propensity to allow other teams multiple offensive rebounds, is absolutely killing us.  

[Bahku]

No interior defense. Thank God for Ray, this would've been a blowout.

[Bahku]

4th quarter ... not attacking the basket, third-string in the game with under 6 minutes left, Sheed launching bricks, no defense, one-and-done on D ... don't get it. We've got a decent bench, but the starters should be in with less than 6 min left in such a close game. Sometimes I really like Doc ... sometimes I just don't know.

[Bahku]

Sheed's on the post now ... much more effective. Still think the starting five should be on the floor. Nice acting by Gallinari. 

[Bahku]

What a bunch of acting and crap calls for Gallinari ... jeez! 

[Bahku]

For some of the best faking and flopping of the 2009 - 2010 season ...





 

[misha]

Barron should send Celtics flowers or something. They might helped him to get a better contract for next year. The guy looked like an all star out there.

[slamtheking]

horrible display, particularly the end.  Absolute disgraceful performance from a team that considers itself a contender.

Just so that I have this straight, as I recall from 2 years ago, Danny traded away our youth for vets because young players don't know how to win games and need time to learn how to play the game.  Hmmmm, we now have a team of vets that don't know how to win games and apparently need some time to learn how to play the game PLUS they show no heart or effort when losing. 

How is this an improvement?  Was a single title worth sinking this team for another 2 years ( and most likely more) before we can legitimately talk title contention again?

He traded away our vets for Banner 17 not because young players don't know how to win games. 

And yes, it was worth it because we won our first Championship in 22 frggen years and have been a 60 team in 07-08 and 08-09, and are on our way to our third straight playoffs. 

Yes, to answer you question, it was very much worth it!

The only younger player I really want back is Jeff Green.

And Jeff Green is not enough to give back Banner 17.

Al Jefferson is a nice 3rd or 4th best player on your team, not a franchise guy at all. He's one dimensional and injury prone a la Yao Ming.

Gomes is a nice reserve player.

Delonte West is a nice role player with too many personal issues which causes him to be unreliable at best.

Young players in the NBA are way overrated (unless you get the can't miss guy).

In baseball, young players can turn out to be Youkalis or Pedroia...good players who actually get the job done, but they are no Albert Pujols or Pablo Sandoval.

My point was that Doc used to excuse the losses in the pre-"big 3" era on the young players not knowing how to close out games and win.  that supposedly came from experience.  Well, this team is loaded with experience, not just experience but HOF-type experience, championship experience.  What is the excuse for this incredibly low-level of performance?  it's not the talent nor is it health.

Personally, as rewarding as it was to get banner 17, I'd rather have seen Danny structure the team to have a bigger window than 3 years.  Perhaps I'm just spoiled from the 70's and 80's where the team was built to be a contender for a number of years rather than for a brief moment.  However, I don't feel spoiled to have seen those team play hard every game, unlike this year's pitiful lack of effort.