Marcus Landry lights up Springfield

[nickagneta]

Watch out lovers of Celtic youth that Doc never uses, we have yet another binkie for you to attach yourselves to. That's right! Our newly acquired little brother of Carl Landry just went off in the D-League.

Celtics player, Marcus Landry, rained threes on the heads of the Springfield Armor last night night shooting 11 for 17 for the game and 8 for 10 from three point land for 32 points in a Maine Red Claws victory over Springfield. After a fairly slow few first games with the Red Claws, Landry is starting to heat up averaging 20 PPG and nearly 5 RPG over the last three games. Most impressive has been his shooting as he is 23 for 39 for a FG% of 58.8% over those three games. His big game from three has pushed his 3PTFG% for the year in the D-League to a respectable 36.7%.

Yes, his one big game is skewing is very small sample size but that's never been a problem for youth lovers here on Celticblog before.

Marcus Landry has made his mark and Bill Walker and JR GIddens can now be forgotten.

[PosImpos]

Well, if he can become half the role player his brother is he'd be a solid asset for the Celtics.

[Greenbean]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

Doc Rivers on Bill Walker. Well I remember hearing Bill Walker shot the ball quite well in his multiple stints in the D League!

That was a quote that really made me laugh. I didnt think Bill had shown enough to overtake anyone in the rotation either but I also dont think Doc and the staff are doing their due diligence in developing these guys.

I am in no way saying he should ahve been playing, nor am I saying one shooting outburst from Landry means he should be getting minutes either. What I am saying is that if we did have a young player who could contribute, we might not know until it was too late. I dont like that possibility being there and I hope our club changes their process a bit to take a harder look at these young players that come through the system.

[slamtheking]

As someone firmly in the camp of Doc being anti-youth, I'm not going to get on him for not playing Landry or even for Landry to be kept on the team for next year.  

I think he's got a ways to go to get to the level of Walker and Giddens still.  

I'd like to see him do well as I do for any Celtic but I don't anticipate him being here next year.  His most optimistic outcome is to be here to watch a great team play from behind the bench and get a ring thanks to the active roster winning the title.

[Chris]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

[Greenbean]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

[Chris]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

Eh, shooting in the D-league, and shooting on Knicks is very different than shooting in a structured offense like the C's.  I don't think we know yet if Bill can shoot in a system, where he is not just launching up 3's whenever he feels like it. 

And I also think this is picking apart a comment and taking part of it out of context.  I feel pretty confident that Doc was not trying to make excuses or anything by saying he didn't know he could shoot, I think he was just using that as context to point out the fact that Walker had a lot of bad luck with his injuries during his time in Boston, which meant that Doc did not get to see as much of him as he would like to.

[Andy Jick]

I'm all for fielding a D-League all-star team when the current Big Three see their contracts expire...  There's gold down there... 

[ssspence]

Danny -- whatever you do -- DO NOT TRADE TOM LANDRY.

[BballTim]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

  He took a total of 64 shots with the Celts, including 1 three, which he missed.

[Greenbean]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

Eh, shooting in the D-league, and shooting on Knicks is very different than shooting in a structured offense like the C's.  I don't think we know yet if Bill can shoot in a system, where he is not just launching up 3's whenever he feels like it. 

And I also think this is picking apart a comment and taking part of it out of context.  I feel pretty confident that Doc was not trying to make excuses or anything by saying he didn't know he could shoot, I think he was just using that as context to point out the fact that Walker had a lot of bad luck with his injuries during his time in Boston, which meant that Doc did not get to see as much of him as he would like to.

Fair enough. Maybe it is just that we have such a veteran laden team, it is hard for any young player to get a shot here. After all veterans win when it counts. It is proven practice.

Maybe it is a blanket statement I am making for basketball that I wish there was more opportunity for young players to develop. The D league is one step, but unless kids start going to college for 3-4 years again, I think alot of guys will fail to meet their potential and ultimately the league's talent pool suffers the most.

[Greenbean]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

  He took a total of 64 shots with the Celts, including 1 three, which he missed.

Listen im not in the Bill Walker is a star and he should have played when he was here camp. I was a little miffed that Doc said he didnt know he could shoot, when he showed he could shoot in the D-League. He didnt shoot when he was up with the Celtics because he was never on the floor, and deservedly so.

Was he bricking shots in practice? I guess Ill never know.

[Greenbean]

I'm all for fielding a D-League all-star team when the current Big Three see their contracts expire...  There's gold down there... 

Ha Ha! That would be fun to watch. Oh wait, all we have to do is watch a Knicks game...

By the way, do any of your posts end withOUT  ?

[Chris]

“I didn’t know he could shoot that well,” said Rivers, “but I always knew that he had an NBA feel. The problem was that he was always under the knife.”

This is right on (assuming it is about Bill Walker).  It was very tough for Doc to know what Bill Walker could do, because he kept missing crucial development and practice times (which are times when young guys earn minutes) with injuries. 

I dont know he played in 24 D League games and he shot 53% from the field and 40% from 3. That's a decent sample size to judge shooting. I just think it is ignorant to say that he didnt know he could shoot. He actually went on after that quote to say, "He just never showed it". Well unless when he practiced with the Celtics he didnt shoot at all, he must have shown it. Guys usually shoot better in practice.

It's not like he was injured the WHOLE time or even the majority of the time. I feel like he was just overlooked because he was low on the depth chart. I definitely hear you and I know Bill did not have enough time to prove he was better that Daniels, Allen, or even Scal, but for Doc to say he didnt know he was a good shooter just screams to me that he wasnt paying attention.

This is coming from a guy who really likes Doc by the way!

Eh, shooting in the D-league, and shooting on Knicks is very different than shooting in a structured offense like the C's.  I don't think we know yet if Bill can shoot in a system, where he is not just launching up 3's whenever he feels like it. 

And I also think this is picking apart a comment and taking part of it out of context.  I feel pretty confident that Doc was not trying to make excuses or anything by saying he didn't know he could shoot, I think he was just using that as context to point out the fact that Walker had a lot of bad luck with his injuries during his time in Boston, which meant that Doc did not get to see as much of him as he would like to.

Fair enough. Maybe it is just that we have such a veteran laden team, it is hard for any young player to get a shot here. After all veterans win when it counts. It is proven practice.

Maybe it is a blanket statement I am making for basketball that I wish there was more opportunity for young players to develop. The D league is one step, but unless kids start going to college for 3-4 years again, I think alot of guys will fail to meet their potential and ultimately the league's talent pool suffers the most.

While you are right to a point, I think it is important to recognize that, even though it is much harder to get into the rotation on a contender than on a rebuilding team for young guys, there are always opportunities.  What sets apart those who stick around, and find minutes, and those who stay on the end of bench is whether they take advantage of those opportunites.

Glen Davis, and Leon Powe are two young guys who took advantage of opportunities when they arose on this team, and proved to Doc that they belong on the floor.  Gabe Pruitt and JR Giddens did not show that they belonged.  Bill Walker started to show some flashes at the end of last year, but did not force Doc's hand, but this season, the opportunity presented itself when he was on the shelf after knee surgery, and the window was pretty much closed by the time he returned.  So while it may not be as much to his own doing as guys like Pruitt and Giddens, Walker belongs in that category of a guy who simply was not able to step up when the window was open.

[Greenbean]

While you are right to a point, I think it is important to recognize that, even though it is much harder to get into the rotation on a contender than on a rebuilding team for young guys, there are always opportunities.  What sets apart those who stick around, and find minutes, and those who stay on the end of bench is whether they take advantage of those opportunites.

Glen Davis, and Leon Powe are two young guys who took advantage of opportunities when they arose on this team, and proved to Doc that they belong on the floor.  Gabe Pruitt and JR Giddens did not show that they belonged.  Bill Walker started to show some flashes at the end of last year, but did not force Doc's hand, but this season, the opportunity presented itself when he was on the shelf after knee surgery, and the window was pretty much closed by the time he returned.  So while it may not be as much to his own doing as guys like Pruitt and Giddens, Walker belongs in that category of a guy who simply was not able to step up when the window was open.

That's a good way to look at it. Of course alot of it, just like anything in life relies on luck and timing. This is also coming from a guy that backed up an all State point guard for 4 years in high school and never had a chance to show my coach I could play. He actually told me, "son, youre going to be a defender and a distributor. i dont want you shooting when you are in there."

If he had paid attention, he would know that I was a GREAT shooter. He sat me if I took a shot within the first couple of minutes of playing, even if I made the shot. Not saying i could have started over the all state player, but my role defintely could have expanded. We also won the state title 3 years in a row when i was there so no one really argued with the coach.

Actually, although I just bored you with my story, as I am writing this I now know why I feel this way about that comment. So my view is a little biased but the coach isnt always right about his assesment of a player and it is unfortunate because it can totally alter the career of a player.