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Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« on: March 10, 2010, 09:50:41 PM »

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Why not?

At this point, I trust either of them to make shots as much as I trust Paul or Perk.
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Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 10:07:57 PM »

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Shelden sucks, he can't even catch the ball.  >:(

Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 10:11:35 PM »

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Shelden sucks, he can't even catch the ball.  >:(

I'm convinced he's the best rebounder on the Celtics, though.  Big Baby is a better offensive rebounder, but once he gets a rebound he can't do anything with it because he's immediately swarmed by 2-3 guys half a foot taller than him.

Shelden at least has a shot of a) getting a rebound and b) putting it back in.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 10:13:01 PM »

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I wouldn't trust Shelden with any of my fragile possessions. He'd just drop them.

At least no one's gonna swat a glass trophy out of BBD's hands.

Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 10:18:48 PM »

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Shelden sucks, he can't even catch the ball.  >:(

I'm convinced he's the best rebounder on the Celtics, though.  Big Baby is a better offensive rebounder, but once he gets a rebound he can't do anything with it because he's immediately swarmed by 2-3 guys half a foot taller than him.

Shelden at least has a shot of a) getting a rebound and b) putting it back in.

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Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 10:27:30 PM »

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Shelden sucks, he can't even catch the ball.  >:(

I'm convinced he's the best rebounder on the Celtics, though.  Big Baby is a better offensive rebounder, but once he gets a rebound he can't do anything with it because he's immediately swarmed by 2-3 guys half a foot taller than him.

Shelden at least has a shot of a) getting a rebound and b) putting it back in.

I thought you stopped watching

I tried; this week something bad happened in my life and I wanted to watch the Celtics to give me something to distract me and hopefully improve my mood.

Joke's on me, huh?
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 10:44:50 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby and is 40 pounds lighter. Not sure if he can play center. Maybe he can take some of Baby's minutes though.

What is the deal with Perk. It's got to the point where I'm going to be jumping up in down if he can put together a double double.

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 10:47:16 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby and is 40 pounds lighter. Not sure if he can play center. Maybe he can take some of Baby's minutes though.

What is the deal with Perk. It's got to the point where I'm going to be jumping up in down if he can put together a double double.

nobody is giving easy passes to perk down low
theyre making playing the post where hes not that good at
thats hurting him ( by his own flaws) in the eye of the pubic

in suma a better kg makes a better perk

a more offesive pp makes a better perk
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Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 10:58:38 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby and is 40 pounds lighter. Not sure if he can play center. Maybe he can take some of Baby's minutes though.

What is the deal with Perk. It's got to the point where I'm going to be jumping up in down if he can put together a double double.

nobody is giving easy passes to perk down low
theyre making playing the post where hes not that good at
thats hurting him ( by his own flaws) in the eye of the pubic

in suma a better kg makes a better perk

a more offesive pp makes a better perk

So is Perk an average center without KG and Pierce? I thought that he was better than that but how is he going to get paid anything if he is only decent when surrounded with talent? How does this affect him getting rebounds too? KG and Pierce, to me, shouldn't have too much to do with him grabbing a few more boards.

What happened to Perk from the Orlando series last year? He was playing without KG, Pierce was playing like crap, and he was guarding Howard and was still putting up like 12 points  (against the DOP) and pulling down 11 boards a game?

Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 11:02:44 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby

Shelden is NOT the same height as Baby.  That's painfully clear just by looking at them out on the court.  Baby might be listed at 6'9'', but at best he's 6'7''.  Shelden looks like he might be just a bit shorter than Perk, but not by a whole lot.  His main weakness is that he can't really hold onto the ball that well, but he still rebounds better than anybody else on the team, and can finish it (or get fouled) alright down there.

Anyway, I'm not actually arguing that Shelden is better than Perk, but I wouldn't mind seeing some radical change in the starting lineup simply because this team needs to get the message: things just aren't working right now.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 11:15:13 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby

Shelden is NOT the same height as Baby.  That's painfully clear just by looking at them out on the court.  Baby might be listed at 6'9'', but at best he's 6'7''.  Shelden looks like he might be just a bit shorter than Perk, but not by a whole lot.  His main weakness is that he can't really hold onto the ball that well, but he still rebounds better than anybody else on the team, and can finish it (or get fouled) alright down there.

Anyway, I'm not actually arguing that Shelden is better than Perk, but I wouldn't mind seeing some radical change in the starting lineup simply because this team needs to get the message: things just aren't working right now.

Shelden would be the shortest and probably the lightest center in the league.

Anyway as frustrating as this team is something radical isn't going to help in my opinion.
We need to fix what's wrong with our current team. The starting 5 is going to lead us as far as we go. If they play like they have it won't be far but if they play the way they're capable of I think they can make a run at the title. Right now it looks bad but the goal is to improve every game.

If Shelden or another bench player came in and played like an all star that would be great but the Odds of that are highly unlikely and with the few games we have left we don't have the luxury of switching up our starting line up of 3 years.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 11:53:11 PM »

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Pierce of the bench is a better option right now! He can get MORE SHOTS off the bench as opposed to starting with the other 4. Pierce is struggling to find a offensive flow with the others now that Rondo & Perk look for their own offense more. And although Rondo has improved, He dominates our offensive possesions far TOO MUCH! Which makes Paul Pierce who is a creator, a more stand still shooter like Ray! So yes I to feel Finley is better suited for starting with this group & let Pierce be a killer off the bench against far inferior players!

Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 04:01:35 PM »

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Shelden sucks, he can't even catch the ball.  >:(

I'm convinced he's the best rebounder on the Celtics, though.  Big Baby is a better offensive rebounder, but once he gets a rebound he can't do anything with it because he's immediately swarmed by 2-3 guys half a foot taller than him.

Shelden at least has a shot of a) getting a rebound and b) putting it back in.

I thought you stopped watching

I tried; this week something bad happened in my life and I wanted to watch the Celtics to give me something to distract me and hopefully improve my mood.

Joke's on me, huh?

ah sorry to hear pos
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Re: Start Shelden at C, Finley at SF
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 07:44:01 PM »

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Pierce of the bench is a better option right now! He can get MORE SHOTS off the bench as opposed to starting with the other 4. Pierce is struggling to find a offensive flow with the others now that Rondo & Perk look for their own offense more. And although Rondo has improved, He dominates our offensive possesions far TOO MUCH! Which makes Paul Pierce who is a creator, a more stand still shooter like Ray! So yes I to feel Finley is better suited for starting with this group & let Pierce be a killer off the bench against far inferior players!
I completly agree. And it would make Rondo better because a quis or TA can run the court and finish much better than pp34. It doesn't matter who starts the game, it matters who finishes.

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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 09:38:29 PM »

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Shelden is the same height as baby and is 40 pounds lighter. Not sure if he can play center. Maybe he can take some of Baby's minutes though.

What is the deal with Perk. It's got to the point where I'm going to be jumping up in down if he can put together a double double.

nobody is giving easy passes to perk down low
theyre making playing the post where hes not that good at
thats hurting him ( by his own flaws) in the eye of the pubic

in suma a better kg makes a better perk

a more offesive pp makes a better perk

So is Perk an average center without KG and Pierce? I thought that he was better than that but how is he going to get paid anything if he is only decent when surrounded with talent? How does this affect him getting rebounds too? KG and Pierce, to me, shouldn't have too much to do with him grabbing a few more boards.

What happened to Perk from the Orlando series last year? He was playing without KG, Pierce was playing like crap, and he was guarding Howard and was still putting up like 12 points  (against the DOP) and pulling down 11 boards a game?

Pretty good defensive center (excellent at man-to-man, average at other facets), and below-average (for a starter) offensive center. Averages out to an "average" center.