"There's nothing I can do about it"

[jadams5214]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

[Eja117]

The sad part is I think he's right. Truth in advertising right there for our coach.

[GreenFaith1819]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

Good Post, Jadams, but this point and a few others in this season reminds me of a particular point in the Playoffs back in 2007-2008. I cannot recall which series, but I remember KG not having any answers for the media at that point as well...I think it was against ATL.

The media was wondering how we could be struggling against ATL back then? Not winning on the road? And KG didn't have an answer for it....I guess the point I am trying to make is that even through that dark period in his life, his Team came through eventually. He got his ring and I think he'll get another one soon.

[vinnie]

I wonder what the record is for blown double-digit leads in a season? I would guess that the Celtics are closing in on it, whatever it is. 23-5 the first 28 (against a weak schedule), 13-15 since. It's all going the wrong way and there are no answers.

[Eja117]

I wonder what the record is for blown double-digit leads in a season? I would guess that the Celtics are closing in on it, whatever it is. 23-5 the first 28 (against a weak schedule), 13-15 since. It's all going the wrong way and there are no answers.

Well there's always holding the coach and/or members of his staff accountable I guess.

[Rtpas11]

No worries until playoffs. On another note, Doc coaching was pitiful tonight.

[vinnie]

No worries until playoffs. On another note, Doc coaching was pitiful tonight.

So what you are saying is the fact that they can't beat good teams or hold double digit leads will have no bearing on how they play in the playoffs? Are you saying once the playoffs come they will automatically become a different team, be able to hold leads and be able to beat good teams? I just don't get it.

[MaxwellSmart86]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

Good Post, Jadams, but this point and a few others in this season reminds me of a particular point in the Playoffs back in 2007-2008. I cannot recall which series, but I remember KG not having any answers for the media at that point as well...I think it was against ATL.

The media was wondering how we could be struggling against ATL back then? Not winning on the road? And KG didn't have an answer for it....I guess the point I am trying to make is that even through that dark period in his life, his Team came through eventually. He got his ring and I think he'll get another one soon.

I was just gonna post about this.....

NOBODY except Steve Bulpett ever mentions how Doc almost cost us that Atlanta series---BECAUSE he changed his rotations when the playoffs came...He benched Eddie House in favor of Sam Cassell---it was only when we had NO CHOICE, that he went back to his regular season (66 wins) rotation,that we Finally got right and won the Championship---Doc, ALL BY HIMSELF almost COST us Banner #17.

Now, he's at it again...He needs to come up with quicker substitution patterns...By the time he takes out Rondo and Ray Allen--They're Completely GASSED-and end up USELESS in the 2nd half of games---THUS, we "Blow" big leads.

SOMEBODY in the C's organization MUST see this---they better tell Doc---Cause he is CLUELESS about it...The C's probably want to play hard all game---but they CANNOT physically do it--THANKS to Doc's Horrible sub patterns.

Is it too late in the season to FIX this?

[FallGuy]

Doc is a problem sometimes. Bad rotations, too slow to sub guys, etc.

But that's not the real problem. It's the decline of our top players.

[GreenFaith1819]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

Good Post, Jadams, but this point and a few others in this season reminds me of a particular point in the Playoffs back in 2007-2008. I cannot recall which series, but I remember KG not having any answers for the media at that point as well...I think it was against ATL.

The media was wondering how we could be struggling against ATL back then? Not winning on the road? And KG didn't have an answer for it....I guess the point I am trying to make is that even through that dark period in his life, his Team came through eventually. He got his ring and I think he'll get another one soon.

I was just gonna post about this.....

NOBODY except Steve Bulpett ever mentions how Doc almost cost us that Atlanta series---BECAUSE he changed his rotations when the playoffs came...He benched Eddie House in favor of Sam Cassell---it was only when we had NO CHOICE, that he went back to his regular season (66 wins) rotation,that we Finally got right and won the Championship---Doc, ALL BY HIMSELF almost COST us Banner #17.

Now, he's at it again...He needs to come up with quicker substitution patterns...By the time he takes out Rondo and Ray Allen--They're Completely GASSED-and end up USELESS in the 2nd half of games---THUS, we "Blow" big leads.

SOMEBODY in the C's organization MUST see this---they better tell Doc---Cause he is CLUELESS about it...The C's probably want to play hard all game---but they CANNOT physically do it--THANKS to Doc's Horrible sub patterns.

Is it too late in the season to FIX this?

You make a good point, Maxwell..but ATL had to prove that they could beat us back in 2007-2008, and they couldn't. They played almost perfect basketball at home in the playoffs against us and even then each game in ATL was close.......then in Boston we ran them over..domination.

IMO, Doc wasn't the cause for us struggling against ATL like that in 2007-2008.

[PosImpos]

Well, when the coach says he has no idea what to do...that pretty much sums it up.

[j804]

Yup were done I'll see you guys in the offseason

[Spicoli]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

Good Post, Jadams, but this point and a few others in this season reminds me of a particular point in the Playoffs back in 2007-2008. I cannot recall which series, but I remember KG not having any answers for the media at that point as well...I think it was against ATL.

The media was wondering how we could be struggling against ATL back then? Not winning on the road? And KG didn't have an answer for it....I guess the point I am trying to make is that even through that dark period in his life, his Team came through eventually. He got his ring and I think he'll get another one soon.

I was just gonna post about this.....

NOBODY except Steve Bulpett ever mentions how Doc almost cost us that Atlanta series---BECAUSE he changed his rotations when the playoffs came...He benched Eddie House in favor of Sam Cassell---it was only when we had NO CHOICE, that he went back to his regular season (66 wins) rotation,that we Finally got right and won the Championship---Doc, ALL BY HIMSELF almost COST us Banner #17.

Now, he's at it again...He needs to come up with quicker substitution patterns...By the time he takes out Rondo and Ray Allen--They're Completely GASSED-and end up USELESS in the 2nd half of games---THUS, we "Blow" big leads.

SOMEBODY in the C's organization MUST see this---they better tell Doc---Cause he is CLUELESS about it...The C's probably want to play hard all game---but they CANNOT physically do it--THANKS to Doc's Horrible sub patterns.

Is it too late in the season to FIX this?

TP. I created a thread a while ago asking why the blown leads, and now i finally have my answer. It's DOC RIVERS. He turns into an idiot during second halves of games. I was absolutely SHOCKED that he refused to give Rondo a breather. A player who we all know relies on energy and effort. Obviously if he never sits, he's not going to bring energy or effort, but for some reason the coach can't figure this out. The players are partially to blame, but Doc is the main culprit in all these collapses. His sub patterns are plain idiotic.

[FallGuy]

That is a quote from Doc Rivers after the latest Celtics 2nd half debacle.   Read on for more...

"There's nothing I can do about it," said Rivers. "Obviously I'd like to prove it. We'd like to be better. But we're not right now, and we've just got to keep working on it. I know what we need to do. But one night it'll be defense, one night it'll be offense. So we've just got to be more consistent."

Said Kevin Garnett, "I know you guys are tired of writing it in your columns. I apologize for all that. At some point there has to be some action. You're right, you're totally right. Doc has a saying. 'You have to run through the whole race', and we have to do that. Until we as players decide to do that we're going to be in this predicament."


Doc and KG have run out of answers.  When the head coach and team leader don't know what to do that definitely spells trouble.  The Portland game was obviously an aberration.  This Celtic team is still collapsing after halftime frequently and is leading the NBA in most blown double digit leads.

Nothing has changed and time is running out...

Good Post, Jadams, but this point and a few others in this season reminds me of a particular point in the Playoffs back in 2007-2008. I cannot recall which series, but I remember KG not having any answers for the media at that point as well...I think it was against ATL.

The media was wondering how we could be struggling against ATL back then? Not winning on the road? And KG didn't have an answer for it....I guess the point I am trying to make is that even through that dark period in his life, his Team came through eventually. He got his ring and I think he'll get another one soon.

I was just gonna post about this.....

NOBODY except Steve Bulpett ever mentions how Doc almost cost us that Atlanta series---BECAUSE he changed his rotations when the playoffs came...He benched Eddie House in favor of Sam Cassell---it was only when we had NO CHOICE, that he went back to his regular season (66 wins) rotation,that we Finally got right and won the Championship---Doc, ALL BY HIMSELF almost COST us Banner #17.

Now, he's at it again...He needs to come up with quicker substitution patterns...By the time he takes out Rondo and Ray Allen--They're Completely GASSED-and end up USELESS in the 2nd half of games---THUS, we "Blow" big leads.

SOMEBODY in the C's organization MUST see this---they better tell Doc---Cause he is CLUELESS about it...The C's probably want to play hard all game---but they CANNOT physically do it--THANKS to Doc's Horrible sub patterns.

Is it too late in the season to FIX this?

TP. I created a thread a while ago asking why the blown leads, and now i finally have my answer. It's DOC RIVERS. He turns into an idiot during second halves of games. I was absolutely SHOCKED that he refused to give Rondo a breather. A player who we all know relies on energy and effort. Obviously if he never sits, he's not going to bring energy or effort, but for some reason the coach can't figure this out. The players are partially to blame, but Doc is the main culprit in all these collapses. His sub patterns are plain idiotic.

Doc is not the main culprit.

You bring back the 08 KG, the 08 PP and we win most of these close games. The main culprit is KG and PP's decline, Sheed's general uselessness, Ray Allen's hit-or-miss nights.

It's the players.

[PosImpos]

You can't blame it all on Doc.

The Celtics don't have a go to guy when things get tough.  Don't argue about it; they really don't.  Pierce isn't that guy anymore.  Neither is Ray.  Neither is KG.  Rondo isn't there yet.  All of those 4 guys are still very good players, but they aren't guys you can go to when things get rough and depend on them to pull your rear end out of the fire.

You need a go to guy if you want to win big games, and ultimately, a championship.  No team in the past 20-30 years (as far as I'm aware) has won a championship without a real go to guy.  Even Detroit had Mr. Big Shot.

The lack of a go to guy is why this team sputters late in games when the opposing defense clamps down and they can't get the same easy looks they got before.  They don't have a player who can demand the ball and make things happen single-handedly no matter what the opposing defense does. 

You look at all the best teams in the league, they have that guy.  Cleveland has LeBron.  The Lakers have Kobe.  Nuggets have Melo.  Atlanta has Joe Johnson.  Mavericks have Dirk (and Terry, too).  Even the Jazz have D-Will and the Magic have Rashard, Vince, and Nelson; even Dwight has become more of a clutch player recently.

There are nights when one of the Big 4 will look phenomenal.  They might even hit a game winner or come up big in the 4th.  But none of them can do it consistently.  None of them can really take over a game anymore - not against a really good team.  Unless that somehow changes, I am very skeptical about the Celtic's chances of playing in June this year.