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What do you guys think about this article about Omri Casspi?
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Omri Casspi and Jewish Masculinity-Kevin Arnovitz

Ever since Omri Casspi hit the scene, I've had two general conversations with people I know:


    * The first is with Jewish family and friends, few of whom follow pro basketball very closely. They've heard about this Israeli kid playing for some team in California. This is the greatest thing ever! Have you met him?! When is he coming to my city? What's the best way to invite him to Shabbos Dinner? Is he observant?
    * The second conversation occurs with non-Jewish friends, each of whom appreciates that Casspi carries great symbolic importance for Jewish folks. But, in the politest way possible, they want to better understand why the fervor over Casspi in the Jewish community is such a phenomenon. After all, there have been Jewish ball players before and, fifty years ago, they had a major presence in the league. Today, current Laker Jordan Farmar is a rotation player for the reigning NBA champs. There are a number of Jewish NBA owners and the league's front offices are filled with Jews. So -- and we mean this in the least offensive way possible -- why are NBA arenas packed with ecstatic Jews every time the Kings show up?


This second question is a good one. Casspi, of course, is the first Israeli to play in the NBA, which explains a lot of the exuberance. Israel has long been a basketball-crazy land, and sending a native son over to the NBA is the ultimate realization of that passion. Noam Schiller of Jerusalem Sports wrote a celebratory piece over at Cowbell Kingdom describing the devotion to Casspi in Israel:

[R]egardless of how Casspi’s career unravels from this point forward, he will always be the first one who made it. And all words and all the articles and all the TV pieces that have aired in the American media since that night late in June – and some of them are really really good – can’t even begin to describe the impact this has had in Israel. Kings games have become a matter of national importance – except nobody cares if they win or lose. David Thorpe’s rookie rankings are monitored on a weekly basis by every major sports website in the country ... New Casspi interviews and analysis pieces are published by the hour, and nobody is sick of it, because all they want is more and more information of how their promised son is doing in the scary outside world.

So the next time you watch a Kings game, and the camera glosses over an Israeli flag in the crowd, don’t think to yourself “boy, these people are really over doing it”. Because the truth of the matter is, you ain’t seen nothin’. That camera isn’t showing you the people back in Israel who wake up in the middle of the night to watch the Kings play the likes of the Pistons and the Knicks and the Bucks, despite having school or work the next day. It doesn’t show the “Omri Casspi scored 15 points!…and the Kings lost” headlines. It doesn’t show how all of a sudden, the Rookie-Sophomore game and the All-Star HORSE contest have, at least for one year, at least for one nation, stepped out of obscurity and into the spotlight. It doesn’t show how all these corny new headlines – such as the suddenly over used “Omri, King Of Israel” – are indeed corny, and sappy, and stupid, and true.

Most American Jews have a visceral connection to Israel. They consider the prosperity of Israel their prosperity too. They also feel the nation's hardship, even if that burden isn't present in their daily lives.

But there's something else about Casspi that speaks to the American Jewish psyche. Some of it is familiar -- old jokes like, "there's a book about Jewish athletes...it's a pamphlet!" But beneath the surface lurks something very real and raw that taps into why American Jews are so crazy about Casspi.

To understand the modern origins of this dynamic, we have to look to the late 19th century and a Hungarian intellectual named Max Nordau, one of the founders of the Zionist movement at the turn of the century. Nordau believed that Jews were the victims of persecution in part because they were, at the risk of simplification, wimpy. Nordau espoused a theory called Muskeljudentum, or "Muscular Judaism."

Franklin Foer, in his book "How Soccer Explains the World," described Nordau's dogma:

Nordau argued that victims of anti-Semitism suffered from their own disease, a condition he called Judendot, or Jewish distress. Life in the ghetto had afflicted the Jews with effeminacy and nervousness ... To beat back anti-Semitism and eradicate Judendot, Jews didn't merely need to reinvent their body politic. They needed to reinvent their bodies. He prescribed Muskeljudentum as a cure for this malady. He wrote, "We want to restore to the flabby Jewish body its lost tone, to make it vigorous and strong, nimble and powerful." Jews, he urged in articles and letters, should invest in creating gymnasia and athletic fields, because sport "will straighten us in body and character."

Now, how does this relate to Omri Casspi?

Nordau's credo became part of the fabric of 20th Century Zionist ideology. The juggernaut we know as Maccabi Tel Aviv is a product of this movement, born in 1906 as the Rishon LeZion Club in Jaffa, Israel. Initially, gymnastics was the focus of the club, but basketball was introduced in the 1930s, a full decade before the founding of the state of Israel. The nation got its first real basketball league in 1954 and, sure enough, Maccabi Tel Aviv was the first champion. About 50 years later, and nearly a full century after the formation of the first organized athletic club in Israel, Casspi suited up for Maccabi Tel Aviv at the age of 17.

Nordau might be heralded as a hero of Zionism, but his "Muscular Jew" doctrine was a little too close to the European anti-Semitic critique of the modern Jew for my taste. What Nordau essentially put forward was the idea that Jewish men, while learned professionals, smart with money and bookish, are traditionally lousy at the more primal duties of manhood -- things like defending their tribe against aggressors, sports and manual tasks.

By virtue of mandatory conscription, fighting wars and toiling the land for more than 60 years, Israeli Jews (and certainly Omri Casspi) have largely fulfilled Nordau's vision of the muscular Jew and have escaped this rap. For American Jews who have flocked to NBA arenas to get an up-close look at Casspi, the narrative is a little bit different. Many American Jews -- who are more like their European forebearers than their Israeli counterparts in their general way of life -- still internalize some of this Judendot. Their attachment to Israel is a largely tribal allegiance, but there's an element of wonder there too. One of the funnier snippets of Philip Roth's "Portnoy's Complaint" is American Jew Alexander Portnoy's arriving in Israel toward the end of the novel, in absolute awe of the virile Israelis:

And that's the phrase that does me in as we touch down upon Eretz Yisroel [the land of Israel]: to watch the men. I love those men! I want to grow up to be one of those men!

There's a little bit of Alexander Portnoy in the American Jewish men who can't wait to watch this Israeli man fly around the court, shoot 3s, harass ball-handlers and run the break. Yes, some of that fascination is a simple expression of nationalism, but Casspi personifies something deeper for American Jews. The fact that he's not a slight, cerebral point guard but a rangy, explosive -- sometimes even careless -- young swingman makes him all the more appealing.

Casspi is just like everyone else out there ... which makes him special.

I too am following Omri Casspi pretty heavily. He's the most recent addition to the 'binky brigade'.

This article leaves me with some questions though. I'm not jewish, I was raised 'halflic' (half arsed Catholic)..as in I was baptized Catholic, received my first communion, never confirmed, and never pressured to attend services if I didn't want to. I went for a while in middle school (by myself) because I wanted to understand it, but that's where religion stopped for me.

My ethnicity is Irish, and while the two are rarely exclusive, the aren't dependent on each other.

Jewish people however, at least in the traditionalist sense, are both at once an ethnic and religious group.

Now, I've never been one to dwell much on separating people based on ethnic or religious grounds, except to pick on my friends. But there are preconceptions.

For instance, the Irish are thought of as a lot of things, but the most base and common preconceptions (at least in America) follow pride, poverty, alcoholism without the moniker, and toughness. I wasn't around for JFK, but my father was. I swear my dad couldn't care less about politics, but if you get him talking about the Kennedys...wow. It's like hearing a biography of a god. JFK was smart, charismatic, rich, good looking...he wasn't Sean Sullivan who works over at the factory and drinks away his paycheck, he was a man who made something of himself.

I guess I'm not phrasing this correctly, and honestly I'm trying to tip-toe because I know this is a potentially explosive issue, but is Omri Casspi on some levels like that for Jews? I'm not comparing a president to a basketball player..I'm comparing two men who took a stereotype and turned it on its butt.

I'm not sure if I'm getting the point across but i think you get the gist of it. Is this article true in its thesis?

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Interesting article IP.

I am Jewish, but I'd never heard about Nordau's theory.  There definitely is a dual religious/ethnic tie with Judaism.  In my case I don't consider myself Russian despite having my grandparents and great grandparents families descended from there.  I feel much more of a tie to my Jewish-ness and my American-ness than I do to a country that was not so kind to my kin.

The tie to Israel never hit home with me quite as much as many Jews, but it is very real.  Zionism goes to the core of many Jew's "patriotism".  The Israeli's are a proud and willful people, but I think any country would take similar pride in having a pioneer athlete in the NBA - especially countries that love hoops as much as Israel.

I really don't know what to say about the issue of trying to build a faster-stronger Jew.  It seems to buy into a stereo type that I never found fellow Jews to be too concerned about.

Not sure if that added any insight.  Thanks again for the article.
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It makes a lot of sense.  The stereotype about Jewish people is that they are inherently un-athletic and physically weak.  Omri Casspi is strong and athletic.  He's completely opposite pretty much every negative Jewish stereotype. 
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Interesting article IP.

I am Jewish, but I'd never heard about Nordau's theory.  There definitely is a dual religious/ethnic tie with Judaism.  In my case I don't consider myself Russian despite having my grandparents and great grandparents families descended from there.  I feel much more of a tie my Jewish-ness and my American-ness than I do to a country that was not so kind to my kin.

The tie to Israel never hit home with me quite as much as many Jews, but it is very real.  Zionism goes to the core of many Jew's "patriotism".  The Israeli's are a proud and willful people, but I think any country would take similar pride in having a pioneer athlete in the NBA - expecially countries that love hoops as much as Israel.

I really don't know what to say about the issue of trying to build a faster-stronger Jew.  It seems to buy into a stereo type that I never found fellow Jews to be too concerned about.

Not sure if that added any insight.  Thanks again for the article.
I am pretty sure I am the only Israeli on CB (and I am Jewish). The guy who wrote this article is obviously very famaliar with Jewish and zionist history, which is very nice. But: the main thing about Casspi's success is a lot simpler - Basketball is second only to soccer in Israel. Maccabi Tel Aviv are (or where up to this year) a matter of national pride. When Maccabi reaches the euroleague final four (5 times in the last decade), over 10,000 israelis will go where ever it takes to stand behind their team. I have been to Moscow, Prague and Madrid with maccabi over the last few years. Simply put - we're real proud of Casspi but it first and foremost because we like basketball. The whole historic idea in this article is blown way out of proportion.
One last thing I have to say about Casspi is related more to the NBA: I think the league's marketing people are working over time to put Casspi's story out there (a lot more than any other country's first player - see Jonas Jerebko as an example) because they are targeting American jews as an NBA market they would like to penetrate. In that sense, this article is just that: "Hey American jews - remember Basketball? Now you have more reasons to spend money on it..."

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Interesting article IP.

I am Jewish, but I'd never heard about Nordau's theory.  There definitely is a dual religious/ethnic tie with Judaism.  In my case I don't consider myself Russian despite having my grandparents and great grandparents families descended from there.  I feel much more of a tie my Jewish-ness and my American-ness than I do to a country that was not so kind to my kin.

The tie to Israel never hit home with me quite as much as many Jews, but it is very real.  Zionism goes to the core of many Jew's "patriotism".  The Israeli's are a proud and willful people, but I think any country would take similar pride in having a pioneer athlete in the NBA - expecially countries that love hoops as much as Israel.

I really don't know what to say about the issue of trying to build a faster-stronger Jew.  It seems to buy into a stereo type that I never found fellow Jews to be too concerned about.

Not sure if that added any insight.  Thanks again for the article.

No that's a lot of insight. What you're saying is that its more about a kind of idealistic nationalist pride than a countering of a stereotype. I think that's probably a shared sentiment in America.

I am pretty sure I am the only Israeli on CB (and I am Jewish). The guy who wrote this article is obviously very famaliar with Jewish and zionist history, which is very nice. But: the main thing about Casspi's success is a lot simpler - Basketball is second only to soccer in Israel. Maccabi Tel Aviv are (or where up to this year) a matter of national pride. When Maccabi reaches the euroleague final four (5 times in the last decade), over 10,000 israelis will go where ever it takes to stand behind their team. I have been to Moscow, Prague and Madrid with maccabi over the last few years. Simply put - we're real proud of Casspi but it first and foremost because we like basketball. The whole historic idea in this article is blown way out of proportion.

Maybe its my own American blinders on, but I have such a hard time conceptualizing basketball in Europe. The fans apparently are rabid. Russia, Spain, Italy, Israel..it's a borderline religion. But if it is that big a deal in Europe, why does America have the best talent and best paid players? I'm not saying what you're saying isn't true, but I just think if fans are that serious in Europe, where basketball is presumably the second favorite sport for some very large and reasonably wealthy countries, than there is a paradigm shift coming.

With the amount of money Real Madrid spends on players, I'd think basketball as a market can't be far behind.

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One last thing I have to say about Casspi is related more to the NBA: I think the league's marketing people are working over time to put Casspi's story out there (a lot more than any other country's first player - see Jonas Jerebko as an example) because they are targeting American jews as an NBA market they would like to penetrate. In that sense, this article is just that: "Hey American jews - remember Basketball? Now you have more reasons to spend money on it..."

This is the meat of your comment which I was most intrigued by, mostly because it makes the most sense. This rings true. I don't think Kevin Arnovitz had ulterior motives here when he wrote the article, but Casspi being in the horse challenge, Casspi having multiple stories all over NBA.com...he is definitely being marketed.

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I am pretty sure I am the only Israeli on CB (and I am Jewish).

Nope. I have said various times that I live in Israel.

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Interesting article and posts...good reading on a Saturday morning.  I am Jewish, grandparents from Russia, and not knowing anything about Casspi other than he was from Israel, drew me to follow him this year.  I put him on my fantasy team...some great games.  The guy is a player and if he stays healthy should have a good career in the NBA.  Thanks again for a good read. TPs for the posts before me.
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I don't know if it was mentioned already, but originally Casspi wanted to stay in Israel for a couple more seasons, even after being drafted, and he just went to the Kings' summer camp for a "tryout" and they were thrilled.

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I am pretty sure I am the only Israeli on CB (and I am Jewish).

Nope. I have said various times that I live in Israel.

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I don't know if it was mentioned already, but originally Casspi wanted to stay in Israel for a couple more seasons, even after being drafted, and he just went to the Kings' summer camp for a "tryout" and they were thrilled.
I never heard that. He kept saying he would go if selected.

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I was reffering to Israeli basketball - and specifically to Maccabi. In Spain, Greece and Russia basketball is 5th or 6th most important sport, as far as I know. The only country where basketball is like what you describe is Croatia, again as far as I know. Even Real Madrid (which got their butts kicked by Maccabi two weeks ago..;-))spend something like 40 euro annually - not only salaries, but budget for the team for a year. their highest paid player is paid something like 3 million dollars.



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I don't know if it was mentioned already, but originally Casspi wanted to stay in Israel for a couple more seasons, even after being drafted, and he just went to the Kings' summer camp for a "tryout" and they were thrilled.
I never heard that. He kept saying he would go if selected.
He skipped national team basketball camp to work on his NBA range shooting, he definitely wanted to come over to the NBA.

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Geez, he seems like a nice kid, good young player, but don't try to turn him into a symbol of Jewish manhood. I doubt if Jews need one.

Israel has produced a number of good players.  I thought a few years back tha Yaniv Green might be NBA material, but he decided to stay in Europe.