So, that was it? are you kidding me?

[celticinorlando]

i won't lie...i wanted to see ray, scal and giddens/walker traded for some younger pieces to help the future...but i guess we are hitched to 3 gimpy and old stars that are about out of gas for another 2.5 years. watching KG labor and get beat by guys is pretty painful....same with PP settling for long jumpers with no quickness to the hoop....and ray allen getting blown by on defense while his shot builds the Cs a brand new arena. i guess the reality is what it is.

  Why are we hitched to them? Did Danny say he's not making any trades until 2012?

hitched meaning any success or failure is hitched to the big 3 until 2012. we can't get younger until they go off the books.

[Levis107]

The bench wasn't a problem when they were all healthy. Daniels and House worked well together, IMO. I don't know how Daniels and Nate will do. This might actually make the team worse.

exactly. the bench was alright, i liked the chemistry between house and sheed and daniels when healthy. now its almost like we are forgetting how bad the starters have been and nate robinson's 5'9 dunking abilitys going to put us over the top.

cavs got jamison, a legit 20 ppg scorer, on TOP of being on a 13 game winning streak..

and we were in a huge slump, and trade away one of our best scorers and hustle players.

cool.

Nate Robinson is a more versatile scorer and actually, a more efficient shooter than Eddie this season.  Nate can light it up for 20 or 30 on any given night and, more importantly, can create offense which it seems like on this team only Rondo and Pierce can do...and Pierce can't get there every night.  I like Nate to be the young, athletic, offensive boost on the 2nd unit.

[the_Bird]

Ugh.

We all know this team isn't good enough to win a title, as-is.  Too old.  Too run-down.  Needed an infusion.  They didn't convert Ray Allen into a player that will significantly improve the team.  We're no more likely to win a title now than we were twenty-four hours ago.

We also know this team's in trouble next year and the year after; we're too old.  Martin, Iggy, Caron Butler, all those guys would have helped.  Nate does nothing to get us younger, since he'll likely walk at the end of the season.

Two objectives going into trade season:

1. Improve the chances of a title in 2010, or
2. Get younger and position ourselves to be competitive in the years ahead.

Failed.  Failed.  FAILED on both counts.

I tend to be an optimist, but today sucks.  Doesn't help that the "addition" we made is my second least-favorite player in the League (least favorite not named "Kobe").

This sucks.

[buellj814]

Ugh.

We all know this team isn't good enough to win a title, as-is.  Too old.  Too run-down.  Needed an infusion.  They didn't convert Ray Allen into a player that will significantly improve the team.  We're no more likely to win a title now than we were twenty-four hours ago.

We also know this team's in trouble next year and the year after; we're too old.  Martin, Iggy, Caron Butler, all those guys would have helped.  Nate does nothing to get us younger, since he'll likely walk at the end of the season.

Two objectives going into trade season:

1. Improve the chances of a title in 2010, or
2. Get younger and position ourselves to be competitive in the years ahead.

Failed.  Failed.  FAILED on both counts.

I tend to be an optimist, but today sucks.  Doesn't help that the "addition" we made is my second least-favorite player in the League (least favorite not named "Kobe").

This sucks.

there is no way of you knowing that we aren't a title contender! pretty sure we still have a chance

[celticinorlando]

Ugh.

We all know this team isn't good enough to win a title, as-is.  Too old.  Too run-down.  Needed an infusion.  They didn't convert Ray Allen into a player that will significantly improve the team.  We're no more likely to win a title now than we were twenty-four hours ago.

We also know this team's in trouble next year and the year after; we're too old.  Martin, Iggy, Caron Butler, all those guys would have helped.  Nate does nothing to get us younger, since he'll likely walk at the end of the season.

Two objectives going into trade season:

1. Improve the chances of a title in 2010, or
2. Get younger and position ourselves to be competitive in the years ahead.

Failed.  Failed.  FAILED on both counts.

I tend to be an optimist, but today sucks.  Doesn't help that the "addition" we made is my second least-favorite player in the League (least favorite not named "Kobe").

This sucks.

there is no way of you knowing that we aren't a title contender! pretty sure we still have a chance

unless they figure things out soon (and I mean starting TONIGHT)...i have a hard time thinking they are a title contender

[BballTim]

i won't lie...i wanted to see ray, scal and giddens/walker traded for some younger pieces to help the future...but i guess we are hitched to 3 gimpy and old stars that are about out of gas for another 2.5 years. watching KG labor and get beat by guys is pretty painful....same with PP settling for long jumpers with no quickness to the hoop....and ray allen getting blown by on defense while his shot builds the Cs a brand new arena. i guess the reality is what it is.

  Why are we hitched to them? Did Danny say he's not making any trades until 2012?

hitched meaning any success or failure is hitched to the big 3 until 2012. we can't get younger until they go off the books.

  I know wht you meant. But how do you know we won't ever trade any of them?

[celticinorlando]

i won't lie...i wanted to see ray, scal and giddens/walker traded for some younger pieces to help the future...but i guess we are hitched to 3 gimpy and old stars that are about out of gas for another 2.5 years. watching KG labor and get beat by guys is pretty painful....same with PP settling for long jumpers with no quickness to the hoop....and ray allen getting blown by on defense while his shot builds the Cs a brand new arena. i guess the reality is what it is.

  Why are we hitched to them? Did Danny say he's not making any trades until 2012?

hitched meaning any success or failure is hitched to the big 3 until 2012. we can't get younger until they go off the books.

  I know wht you meant. But how do you know we won't ever trade any of them?

i highly doubt they ever trade paul...

[the_Bird]

If we didn't trade Ray Allen, the best trade chip we've had...  I don't see them trading KG or Paul.  Paul's a C for life, KG's either going to be DONE and untradeable (in which case they're going to blow everything up to rebuild in 2012), or he'll be OK and they'll want to hold onto him.

Does seem that they're keyed in on 2012.  Not sure I have the stomach for another rebuilding process, though.

[Onslaught]

Does seem that they're keyed in on 2012.  Not sure I have the stomach for another rebuilding process, though.

Better start stocking up pepto. All teams rebuild.

[BballTim]

i won't lie...i wanted to see ray, scal and giddens/walker traded for some younger pieces to help the future...but i guess we are hitched to 3 gimpy and old stars that are about out of gas for another 2.5 years. watching KG labor and get beat by guys is pretty painful....same with PP settling for long jumpers with no quickness to the hoop....and ray allen getting blown by on defense while his shot builds the Cs a brand new arena. i guess the reality is what it is.

  Why are we hitched to them? Did Danny say he's not making any trades until 2012?

hitched meaning any success or failure is hitched to the big 3 until 2012. we can't get younger until they go off the books.

  I know wht you meant. But how do you know we won't ever trade any of them?

i highly doubt they ever trade paul...

  What if they do? What if they trade KG in a year or two? What if they bring Ray back and trade him?

[the_Bird]

It's only been two years!  I ain't ready for a rebuild!  

[celticinorlando]

i won't lie...i wanted to see ray, scal and giddens/walker traded for some younger pieces to help the future...but i guess we are hitched to 3 gimpy and old stars that are about out of gas for another 2.5 years. watching KG labor and get beat by guys is pretty painful....same with PP settling for long jumpers with no quickness to the hoop....and ray allen getting blown by on defense while his shot builds the Cs a brand new arena. i guess the reality is what it is.

  Why are we hitched to them? Did Danny say he's not making any trades until 2012?

hitched meaning any success or failure is hitched to the big 3 until 2012. we can't get younger until they go off the books.

  I know wht you meant. But how do you know we won't ever trade any of them?

i highly doubt they ever trade paul...

  What if they do? What if they trade KG in a year or two? What if they bring Ray back and trade him?

then that is fine. a rebuild is coming no matter what. boston from this point forward with the big 3 will be good enough to win games and make the playoffs but prolly won't be contenders at their age.

[Brickowski]

It's only been two years!  I ain't ready for a rebuild!  

Ready or not, it's coming,  Two years from now it is going to Pierce and the seven dwarves once again.  

[droopdog7]

If we didn't trade Ray Allen, the best trade chip we've had...  I don't see them trading KG or Paul.  Paul's a C for life, KG's either going to be DONE and untradeable (in which case they're going to blow everything up to rebuild in 2012), or he'll be OK and they'll want to hold onto him.

Does seem that they're keyed in on 2012.  Not sure I have the stomach for another rebuilding process, though.

Big difference between this year and nest year.  Like it or not, DA is making a deal now with an eye toward contending this year.  And he obviously was not presented with a deal that could improve those chances this year by trading Ray.  At least not one that was financially feasible.

Coem next year, I think we all will know that the window has closed.  DA can then make trades with an eye toward the future, not worrying about the present.

And I think it is the best way to go right now.

[celticinorlando]

It's only been two years!  I ain't ready for a rebuild!  

Ready or not, it's coming,  Two years from now it is going to Pierce and the seven dwarves once again.  

not even sure PP will have much of anything left when all these contracts go away. i think when KG's run out in 2012, he will retire