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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2010, 07:47:12 AM »

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The acquisition of a guy who has no distribution skills whatsoever, while throwing away a legitimate perimeter threat, does absolutely nothing for me - and it does absolutely nothing to enhance this club's chances to win this year.

Terrible deal that accomplishes nothing, and if there's a meaningful pick included it gets even worse.



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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2010, 07:51:10 AM »

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I've slept on this deal and after further deliberation with regards to this trade I have come to following conclusion.

Nate the Great will be the missing attitude adjustment that will get Boston back on track.  Not on the Championship track ( that will take KGs knee getting stronger ) but, back to playing C's bball.  Not exactly sure why I came to that conclusion.  I'm sure homerism is a least a part of it.  

I really hope he makes it to LA for this game tonight.

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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2010, 08:48:45 AM »

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It really won't do anything to help the team.

It's something to appease fans who feel Danny should have done something. At least it looks like he is trying.

Can't believe that with all the rumours, we end up with a lateral move or downgrade. No distribution, no defence, some scoring.


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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2010, 08:49:11 AM »

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The acquisition of a guy who has no distribution skills whatsoever, while throwing away a legitimate perimeter threat, does absolutely nothing for me - and it does absolutely nothing to enhance this club's chances to win this year.

Terrible deal that accomplishes nothing, and if there's a meaningful pick included it gets even worse.




Nate is not here to distribute.  He's here to run the break. Add scoring to the 2nd Unit.  (Nate's quickness is hard to defend, especially if you have other players who can shoot or stretch the floor.

Eddie House (I think all of us Celtic fans love him)
cannot

1.)  defend
2.)  bring the ball up the floor
3.)  create his own shot.

Hard to have BBD, Scal, Williams on a unit with House as none of them can really create anything offensively and are liabilities against any team with athleticism (CAVS, HAWKS etc...)

Goodbye Eddie
Farewell,,,,

we'll miss you



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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2010, 09:10:29 AM »

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The acquisition of a guy who has no distribution skills whatsoever, while throwing away a legitimate perimeter threat, does absolutely nothing for me - and it does absolutely nothing to enhance this club's chances to win this year.

Terrible deal that accomplishes nothing, and if there's a meaningful pick included it gets even worse.




Nate is not here to distribute.  He's here to run the break. Add scoring to the 2nd Unit.  (Nate's quickness is hard to defend, especially if you have other players who can shoot or stretch the floor.

Eddie House (I think all of us Celtic fans love him)
cannot

1.)  defend
2.)  bring the ball up the floor
3.)  create his own shot.

Hard to have BBD, Scal, Williams on a unit with House as none of them can really create anything offensively and are liabilities against any team with athleticism (CAVS, HAWKS etc...)

Goodbye Eddie
Farewell,,,,

we'll miss you



Hello Nate, don't be late...
I'll miss Eddie but Nate is an upgrade.  He's not as good a shooter but he's as good as or better than Eddie at everything else.  The main thing is that he can create his own shot, something lacking from the bench from anyone besides Daniels.

And anyone who calls him a thug or jerk should check out their facts first.  Whoever watched the Make a Wish footage from All Star weekend involving Nate realizes he went out of his way to give a kid one of the best moments of his life.

Nate asked a kid who probably doesn't have much time left what dunk he should do.  The kid said he should throw it off the backboard.  Nate did the dunk, nailed it, and thanked the kid personally for helping him win the dunk contest.  Doesn't sound like a jerk to me.


Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2010, 09:22:20 AM »

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Can't believe that with all the rumours, we end up with a lateral move or downgrade. No distribution, no defence, some scoring.

Eddie can't distribute to save his life.

Eddie dribbles worse than most of the kid's at the gym i play with.

Eddie might be one of the worst gaurd defenders i have ever seen. Yes, he gives effort. so did mikki moore.

Eddie can ONLY score off screens, and he hasen't been shooting that well for the last year and a half. at what point do we let go of the "slump" excuse?

Meanwhile, Nate:

Can lead the break, handle, and actually puts up better than average rebounding numbers, which is astonishing given his size.

Nate can shoot the three, though not as well as eddie of old.

Nate actaully, despite the disregard here, has very good defensive numbers for his position. He gives effort too.

While he might be a ball dominator, he actually does pass. Since eddie doesn't pass unless he has no option either, i fail to see how he's somehow diffrent.

At the end of the day, this isn't a huge move. But to lable it a downgrade is to undervalue nate and overvalue eddie in the extreme.

I love eddie house, but I'll take a player who has multiple tools over a player who is very good at one skill, but underpreforming at it, anyday.
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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2010, 09:26:39 AM »

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Nate is definitely an upgrade.  This team badly needs more athleticism and energy.  Nate hustles and is a dynamic playmaker.  He's a role player though, make no mistake.  But his particular set of skills are much more of what this team needs than Eddie House's one dimensional shooting. 

Eddie has been absolutely dreadful this season.  How could anyone think Nate is not an upgrade?  I understand the frustration about not making a blockbuster deal that changes things on a fundamental level.  But this move by itself at least helps a little.


Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2010, 09:34:51 AM »

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Because he's really short and has a real bad attitude problem. He can also dunk the ball well when no ones covering him.
Oh, wait. This was supposed to be about why we got him.
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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2010, 09:36:31 AM »

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Can't believe that with all the rumours, we end up with a lateral move or downgrade. No distribution, no defence, some scoring.

Eddie can't distribute to save his life.

Eddie dribbles worse than most of the kid's at the gym i play with.

Eddie might be one of the worst gaurd defenders i have ever seen. Yes, he gives effort. so did mikki moore.

Eddie can ONLY score off screens, and he hasen't been shooting that well for the last year and a half. at what point do we let go of the "slump" excuse?

Meanwhile, Nate:

Can lead the break, handle, and actually puts up better than average rebounding numbers, which is astonishing given his size.

Nate can shoot the three, though not as well as eddie of old.

Nate actaully, despite the disregard here, has very good defensive numbers for his position. He gives effort too.

While he might be a ball dominator, he actually does pass. Since eddie doesn't pass unless he has no option either, i fail to see how he's somehow diffrent.

At the end of the day, this isn't a huge move. But to lable it a downgrade is to undervalue nate and overvalue eddie in the extreme.

I love eddie house, but I'll take a player who has multiple tools over a player who is very good at one skill, but underpreforming at it, anyday.
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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2010, 10:01:24 AM »

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Good question I've been wondering the same thing myself. The one thing I was wondering if they're trying to see the kind of athletes they should surround Rondo with and are using the rest of the Big 3 era as a kind of audition period.

I only hope Doc and Danny are on the same page here about Nate's playing time because I'd hate to lose a rotation player for someone who'll be buried on the bench.
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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2010, 10:03:21 AM »

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Good question I've been wondering the same thing myself. The one thing I was wondering if they're trying to see the kind of athletes they should surround Rondo with and are using the rest of the Big 3 era as a kind of audition period.

I only hope Doc and Danny are on the same page here about Nate's playing time because I'd hate to lose a rotation player for someone who'll be buried on the bench.
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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2010, 10:12:12 AM »

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just giving up House for Robinson is a no brainer, solid move. As everyone else as already said the only thing House does better is shoot.

On a side note the Celts with Garnett are one, if not the top trash talking team in the league. Adding Robinson only adds to the trash talking. Doesn't bother me, but you know every team in the league is really going to hate the Celts.(love it)

Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2010, 12:43:44 PM »

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Because he's really short and has a real bad attitude problem. He can also dunk the ball well when no ones covering him.
Oh, wait. This was supposed to be about why we got him.

What bad attitude problem, other than he hates that mike dantoni is a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and deson't want to play for him anymore?

Also, i'd love to hear why he's not an upgrade over eddie house, doubly so when eddie is not preforming the one skill he has to his normal high levels.

If you have one marketable NBA skill, 38% shooting from deep over the last year and a half is unacceptable. Thats a fine number for someone who can do something other than shoot spot up three's, but not for a sniper with no other NBA level skills.

Eddie is not as good as nate. IT's that simple.

You may not like Nate, and that's fine, I don't like a couple players on this team. But to say he's not an upgrade over eddie house is not reasonable.

That doesn't mean it's some earth shattering move, it isn't, nate's a role player.

But the fact remains, he's a better role player in almost every respect than eddie house.

and as someone (i apologize, i forget the Screenname as i'm typing) already researched, over the course of this year, the difference between their 3Pt% percentage is 1%.

Eddie house has one marketable skill in the NBA, shooting the three ball. He has not done that better than most other shooters for the second half of last year, and all of this year.

Nate can do multiple things offensively for you off the bench, defends no worse than eddie does, and is always in attack mode.

He is a much better role player. It isn't an earth shattering move, but it's clearly an upgrade at that bench spot.

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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2010, 12:48:55 PM »

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Because he's really short and has a real bad attitude problem. He can also dunk the ball well when no ones covering him.
Oh, wait. This was supposed to be about why we got him.

What bad attitude problem, other than he hates that mike dantoni is a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and deson't want to play for him anymore?

Also, i'd love to hear why he's not an upgrade over eddie house, doubly so when eddie is not preforming the one skill he has to his normal high levels.

If you have one marketable NBA skill, 38% shooting from deep over the last year and a half is unacceptable. Thats a fine number for someone who can do something other than shoot spot up three's, but not for a sniper with no other NBA level skills.

Eddie is not as good as nate. IT's that simple.

You may not like Nate, and that's fine, I don't like a couple players on this team. But to say he's not an upgrade over eddie house is not reasonable.

That doesn't mean it's some earth shattering move, it isn't, nate's a role player.

But the fact remains, he's a better role player in almost every respect than eddie house.

and as someone (i apologize, i forget the Screenname as i'm typing) already researched, over the course of this year, the difference between their 3Pt% percentage is 1%.

Eddie house has one marketable skill in the NBA, shooting the three ball. He has not done that better than most other shooters for the second half of last year, and all of this year.

Nate can do multiple things offensively for you off the bench, defends no worse than eddie does, and is always in attack mode.

He is a much better role player. It isn't an earth shattering move, but it's clearly an upgrade at that bench spot.


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Re: Why are we adding Nate Robinson?
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 12:50:58 PM »

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No reason.  We did it out of boredom.   He's a bum, Eddie's a bum, Giddens is a bum and Bill Walker is a bum.   We traded 3 bums for a bum.