Chris Mannix on CSNE ( On C's Rumors) UPDATE: Nate Robinson Rumor pg 4

[rondohondo]

He was just on Comcast Sports Toinght

- Said Danny is definitely NOT in desperation move

- He is shopping other expiring ( Scal,TA)

- Said there is a good chance Danny is going to have a conversation with Geoff Peitre and sacramento management about a Ray for Kevin Martin + Nocioni tomorrow when the C's are in Sacramento

- Hinrich is still in play ( if he can be had for other expiring besides ray)

- Said he doesn't think the C's are targeting DJ Augustin at all right now.

[MattG12]

Good stuff. I don't want Augustin. I do want Martin and Nocioni.

[indeedproceed]

I like all those tidbits from mannix. I hope he's on point.

[Donoghus]

I like all those tidbits from mannix. I hope he's on point.

Of course he is.  He's a BC guy! 

[Lucky17]

- He is shopping other expiring ( Scal,TA)

Danny definitely ought to be shopping TA, Scal, and other expiring deals other than Ray's. I fully expect him to use those to get involved in a three- or four-team deal that nets a rotational player.

[Rondo_is_better]

Kevin Martin is like 6'7 110 pounds. He gets owned on D. I don't really want him. Nocioni has a terrible contract, doesn't he? I don't really like that idea. But it'd be exciting to see...even if it made me uneasy.

[MattG12]

Kevin Martin is like 6'7 110 pounds. He gets owned on D. I don't really want him. Nocioni has a terrible contract, doesn't he? I don't really like that idea. But it'd be exciting to see...even if it made me uneasy.

6'7" 185

[Evantime34]

I like all those tidbits from mannix. I hope he's on point.

Of course he is.  He's a BC guy! 

Sound logic that I completely agree with.

[sk7326]

Kevin Martin is like 6'7 110 pounds. He gets owned on D. I don't really want him. Nocioni has a terrible contract, doesn't he? I don't really like that idea. But it'd be exciting to see...even if it made me uneasy.

Nocioni has a bad deal - but he is a good player for this team ... he is a terrific fit on this team as a role player.

Martin is a terrible defender, but remember Ray came off starting SG for the worst defense of all time in Seattle ... effective defense is nothing that effort and assignment control can't fix.

[Donoghus]

Kevin Martin is like 6'7 110 pounds. He gets owned on D. I don't really want him. Nocioni has a terrible contract, doesn't he? I don't really like that idea. But it'd be exciting to see...even if it made me uneasy.

Nocioni has a bad deal - but he is a good player for this team ... he is a terrific fit on this team as a role player.

Martin is a terrible defender, but remember Ray came off starting SG for the worst defense of all time in Seattle ... effective defense is nothing that effort and assignment control can't fix.

I'd be more concerned about Martin's injury history than his defensive deficiencies, myself. 

[KG_ended_Bias]

1 thing I do like about Martin by reading his Game logs in 08-09. He gets to that foul line a whole lot, meaning more points for himself & Paul because them together puts other teams in foul trouble & ourselves in the bonus. He also a 85% foul shooter which also is a plus, if you get to the line you may as well make it. He creates alot better than Ray & he could play an emrgency 3 at times because he is 6'7. Alot of plus signs for us attaining Martin, but those long stretches of games misssed every season scares me. Then he comes back fresh of his injuries & score 35-50 pts. so sign me up! I will take it.

[sk7326]

1 thing I do like about Martin by reading his Game logs in 08-09. He gets to that foul line a whole lot, meaning more points for himself & Paul because them together puts other teams in foul trouble & ourselves in the bonus. He also a 85% foul shooter which also is a plus, if you get to the line you may as well make it. He creates alot better than Ray & he could play an emrgency 3 at times because he is 6'7. Alot of plus signs for us attaining Martin, but those long stretches of games misssed every season scares me. Then he comes back fresh of his injuries & score 35-50 pts. so sign me up! I will take it.

the injury history is a big deal ... biggest problem, he'd be better than 2010 Ray otherwise slam dunk.  But he is able to score a lot without a ton of touches, and that is a big plus.

[mahonedog88]

I can definately see the Martin deal happening since we'll be in Sacramento tomorrow.  If we weren't conviently playing the Kings tomorrow, I'd say it wouldn't happen.  And honestly, I now think that it's either Martin or bust for this trade season.

Now I can see it happen, but my gut feeling is that nothing will happen and that's been my gut feeling all along.

[KG_ended_Bias]

I can definately see the Martin deal happening since we'll be in Sacramento tomorrow.  If we weren't conviently playing the Kings tomorrow, I'd say it wouldn't happen.  And honestly, I now think that it's either Martin or bust for this trade season.

Now I can see it happen, but my gut feeling is that nothing will happen and that's been my gut feeling all along.

I personally think a trade needs to happen! Our team has gone stagnate & a shake-up needs to be made to wake up these sleeping Giants whose playing like they were happy just winning #17. If that is indeed how they feel I would start unloading every one getting ready for the Durant & Greg Oden free-agency.

[Evantime34]

I feel that regardless of the trade the team makes, if KG does not regain his form we will not win a championship.

A trade for K-Mart would make us better, but not better than the Cavs, Lakers or Magic without a semi functional kg.

I think the best move would be to trade expirings and maybe a first for a quality young player, that eventually could start.