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Offline KG_ended_Bias

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 I dont understand why so many teams have soured on Beasley, he plays half way asleep & yet he averages 16pt. 7 rebs at 21yrs old. Project that over the next few years & we are maybe talking about a 23 & 12 guy who shoots plus 80 pct. from the line & a guy who can step out to the 3pt line with ease. Can Danny somehow be that 3rd team that gets involved in a deal with Miami & Phoenix for Stoudemire & we take on Beasley while giving up a future 1st & Big Baby to Phoenix & Miami Sends Jermaine O'Neal(expiring) also to Phoenix with its 1st round pick to help facilitate this deal? Or better yet could we just offer Big Baby, Bill Walker & a future 1st to Miami for Beasley straight up. I would also do that in a heartbeat, Beasley going to be a flat out beast when featured in a offense as his college days at K-State has proved. I would try as best as I could to get him now while his stock is low because a talent like this is incredibly tough to come by. And there isn't a talented 6'10 player like Beasley nowhere on the radar anywhere in college as I see it. What do you guys think about this idea?

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i'd stay far away from beasley...his history makes me wary of him.  maybe he's fine, and i hope he is.  but let him be someone else's potential ticking time-bomb...
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I don't necessarily think that Miami has soured too much on Beasley.  

At least in regards to that 3-way deal that was supposedly floating around involving MIA, PHI, & PHX, it seems to be a matter of Miami getting an obvious upgrade on Beasley with Amare.  If that opporunity is out there, you have to consider.  Especially if you're trying to appease your alpha dog, D-Wade.

Miami's not just gonna dump this guy unless they're getting a stud in return.  



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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 06:37:46 PM »

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No chance at getting Beasley

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I understand that they are not just going to give him away Donughus, but apparently Phoenix doesn't like him in the deal. So im hoping that maybe could steal him & give Phoenix BigBaby in return with a 1st rounder thus giving them 2 1st rounders in the deal(1 also from Miami with Jermaine O'Neal)I think would be enough to get it done.

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Michael Beasley = Poor defender + poor rebounder + non-passer and poor team offensive player + poor shot selection  with an inability to get to the FT line which leads to poor-to-mediocre scoring efficiency

Add in the questionable character + mental state and disappointing play ... and you have a prospect of dubious quality.

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I understand that they are not just going to give him away Donughus, but apparently Phoenix doesn't like him in the deal. So im hoping that maybe could steal him & give Phoenix BigBaby in return with a 1st rounder thus giving them 2 1st rounders in the deal(1 also from Miami with Jermaine O'Neal)I think would be enough to get it done.

Wasn't it Philadadephia that didn't like him in that deal?  That might have to do with personal more than anything. 


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I understand that they are not just going to give him away Donughus, but apparently Phoenix doesn't like him in the deal. So im hoping that maybe could steal him & give Phoenix BigBaby in return with a 1st rounder thus giving them 2 1st rounders in the deal(1 also from Miami with Jermaine O'Neal)I think would be enough to get it done.

Wasn't it Philadadephia that didn't like him in that deal?  That might have to do with personal more than anything. 

as it should...he's a HUGE risk.
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Michael Beasley = Poor defender + poor rebounder + non-passer and poor team offensive player + poor shot selection  with an inability to get to the FT line which leads to poor-to-mediocre scoring efficiency

Add in the questionable character + mental state and disappointing play ... and you have a prospect of dubious quality.
I dont know if I agree with poor rebounder,poor team offensive player, poor shot selection. We all know what kind of rebounder he can & is going to be, how can he be a poor team offensive player when Wade dominates the ball for 16 secs of the 24, and 80% of the possesions? Wade is a terrible fit for Beasley's game is how I see it & I watch it quite a bit. Beasley never seems to be a focal point in the offense & his shots comes out of desperation with the clock running down half the time. Miami is all Wade, for crying out loud, they even named a County after him so lets not blame Beasley for not being placed in idea situations to score the basketball. Mentally who knows what the kid is going through now but apparently to this point in the season his offseason treatment seemed to have been benificial so lets not just assume he is still in that state of mind.

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I disagree, I think Dwyane Wade is an excellent fit alongside a versatile (scoring wise) athletic jump shooting + isolation based big man like Michael Beasley. Beasley can both play off of him and provide a legitimate second go-to option to the offense.

Beasley pulls down 6.7rpg in 30.9mpg. That is poor. A big who rebounds just under 8 boards per 36 minutes is poor. A big man who pulls down only 12.8% of available rebounds is a poor rebounder. It's not like he's doing a great job keeping his opponent off the glass either, so there's no added value there outside of his individual numbers either.

As for his passing and team orientated offensive play just count the number of passes versus shot attempts. Count the number of passes that lead to a scoring opportunity for a teammate. Count the number of passes that lead to the pass that creates a shot attempt. Count the number of passes versus non-passes when Beasley can get his teammate an easier shot than one he has on. Beasley is a selfish offensive player.

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Miami has not soured on him - but he will not stand in the way of them possibly signing LeBron or Bosh or Amare or whomever.  They are going to be a major player in FA, and Beasley is a strong chip they have to trade.

I think they value the strength.  Beasley is a knucklehead and needs mentoring.  He also immediately becomes our second best offensively player.  But I don't think he is a viable opportunity.

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I take the eyes test, not some devise scheme of what percentages the rebounds bounces left to right. My eyes tell me Beasley can be a terrific all around player with good professional coaching which I dont think Miami provides. Every player who has gone to Miami in the last 4-5yrs depreciated. Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, Shaq, Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal & now Beasley. It is either South Beach thats the distraction, coaching or Wade? Wade over handles the basketball honestly for that team to be good. Even Micheal Jordan had to become less involved on every possesion for his team to finally begin to win when Phil first arrived. Less sometimes can mean more, and if it is a little less Wade, and a little more Beasley they could feed of each others progress better suiting the team & beasley could shine better.

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Beasley is still a good prospect but he has an awful lot of problems to work through basketball wise and the questions off the court aren't helping convince teams that he's going to fulfill that potential.

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I take the eyes test, not some devise scheme of what percentages the rebounds bounces left to right. My eyes tell me Beasley can be a terrific all around player with good professional coaching which I dont think Miami provides. Every player who has gone to Miami in the last 4-5yrs depreciated. Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, Shaq, Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal & now Beasley. It is either South Beach thats the distraction, coaching or Wade? Wade over handles the basketball honestly for that team to be good. Even Micheal Jordan had to become less involved on every possesion for his team to finally begin to win when Phil first arrived. Less sometimes can mean more, and if it is a little less Wade, and a little more Beasley they could feed of each others progress better suiting the team & beasley could shine better.

Every player you cited was past his prime already ... Wade is the reason that team is competitive - they have traded for and signed fossils.  Beasley has to defend with more conviction and bring effort more consistently.  But he can be a part of a really good team - whether he has the chops to LEAD that team is very much an open question.

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