Do we really have a 10 man rotation, even in the playoffs?

[slam]

With everyone healthy, our rotation now looks like this:

Rondo/Daniels
R. Allen/House
Pierce/T. Allen
Garnett/Davis
Perkins/Wallace

Do we go with this through the rest of the season, and into the playoffs even?  It’s hard to justify taking minutes away from someone, but a 10 man playoff rotation is very unconventional.

Thoughts?

[Fafnir]

As long as Marquis returns to his previous form from earlier in the season Tony Allen will be squeezed out of the playoff rotation.

He'll still get spot minutes, but that is all.

[jdpapa3]

As long as Marquis returns to his previous form from earlier in the season Tony Allen will be squeezed out of the playoff rotation.

He'll still get spot minutes, but that is all.

I agree. And it could even be House, depending on matchups. Rondo will not really have capped minutes, so 6 or so minutes at the point by Quisy might happen.

[BballTim]

  We won't have a 10 man rotation but all of those guys might get minutes. Doc will go with an 8-9 man rotation but will switch people in and out of the rotation based on matchups.

[wdleehi]

I have no problem with a 10 man rotation.  



Just as long as the Celtics stop the hockey shifts.  



Role player.  Use all 12 players for reasons.


TA (for a little defense)
House (for a little shooting)
Williams (for that need to have rebound)
Scali (smart team defense against the quicker PFs)

[clover]

With everyone healthy, our rotation now looks like this:

Rondo/Daniels
R. Allen/House
Pierce/T. Allen
Garnett/Davis
Perkins/Wallace

Do we go with this through the rest of the season, and into the playoffs even?  It’s hard to justify taking minutes away from someone, but a 10 man playoff rotation is very unconventional.

Thoughts?

At this point the chances of all 10 of those players being healthy don't look too good.

[Chris]

I think in the playoffs, Tony Allen is out of the rotation (assuming everyone is healthy), but will be used in certain matchups.  It may be the same thing with Davis as well, although I think he has a better chance of playing regular minutes.

[slam]

In my mind, Tony Allen has been our best bench player over the last month or so.  No?

[Chris]

In my mind, Tony Allen has been our best bench player over the last month or so.  No?

While I would like to argue that, I don't have a good case against it.  However, Daniels (if healthy) is a better player.  In fact, he was better yesterday, after not playing for 2 months.  And unfortunately, House's shooting is more of a necessity for that second team most of the time, than what Allen brings to the table.  Combine that with the fact that they are going to be upping the starters minutes, and you don't really have room for all 3 of those guys in the regular, playoff rotation, and Allen is the odd man out.  But there would absolutely be games when all 3 of them play, and there will be games when Allen plays, and House doesn't. 

But on the whole, I expect the bench rotation (based on the current roster) to be House, Daniels, and Wallace, then Davis, and finally Allen, playing in certain spots.

[Who]

In my mind, Tony Allen has been our best bench player over the last month or so.  No?

Yeah, I agree.

[slam]

I am not sure I agree about House's contributions being more valuable to the 2nd unit.  He is having guys blow by him for layups every single game.  That doesn't happen with Tony.  There are two ends of the court.  And if it wasn't for Tony yesterday, that 25-2 run would have been a 25-0 run.  We're too much of a jump shooting team already.  Tony drives and makes things happen.  High percentage shots, or fouls by the opponents.  A turnover by Tony (which aren't as frequent as they once were) isn't necessarily worse than a missed 3 pointer by Eddie.

[Chris]

I am not sure I agree about House's contributions being more valuable to the 2nd unit.  He is having guys blow by him for layups every single game.  That doesn't happen with Tony.  There are two ends of the court.  And if it wasn't for Tony yesterday, that 25-2 run would have been a 25-0 run.  We're too much of a jump shooting team already.  Tony drives and makes things happen.  High percentage shots, or fouls by the opponents.  A turnover by Tony (which aren't as frequent as they once were) isn't necessarily worse than a missed 3 pointer by Eddie.

I think there is a strong argument against House.  And I really hope they find a better option than him.  But I think his ability to stretch the defenses (which will be much tougher in the playoffs) can be more valuable than Tony Allen's defense against MOST second teams. 

But hopefully, they pick up a player who can both shoot, and defend, so we don't have to have this conversation.

[Fafnir]

In my mind, Tony Allen has been our best bench player over the last month or so.  No?

Yeah, I agree.

I don't think Doc will trust him though.

He definitely deserves minutes right now, but he and Marquis duplicate enough that I feel that Doc will sit Tony first.

[Who]

Tony Allen = better short term option
Eddie House = better long term option

I think House's shooting ability is a better asset come playoff time. I don't want to give up on that option. I'd rather give him more opportunities now and take a loss now than settle for something less down the road when it matters more.

[slam]

I just wonder if this might be Tony finally getting over the hump and becoming a consistent contributor....