Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?

[PLamb]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

[Who]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

It's a good team.

I'm undecided on which players I'd like to see start at the PG + PF positions. Whether the current starters (Zach Randolph + George Hill) or Kenyon Martin + Ty Lawson give the Knicks a better chance of winning. I'm not sure which one works better. Randolph gives you the go-to scorer and Kenyon Martin gives you a better defensive team. I think you need to keep George Hill (very good defensive player) with Randolph and Ty Lawson (talented offensive guard) with Kenyon Martin though, those duo's/combinations work very well.

The bench

I think the team should only go eight deep (D'Antoni will like that). Use Lawson + Parker + Kenyon in addition to the starting five.

Then have Amundson as an ninth man and Barnes as a tenth man. Not a fan of Barnes' defense or his streak shooting, that's why I wouldn't want him in the rotation. Excellent rebounding small forward though. I wouldn't play Amundson because of the talent amongst your three main bigs, all are vastly more talented and are able to handle the available minutes. Amundson is a very good second big off the bench, excellent pickup.

Quentin Richardson is another strong rebounding wing, a below average but serviceable defender and a good stand still shooter offensively. He's a very good 11th man.

Anthony Parker is a good role player; an average defender and an excellent perimeter shooter with a solid handle + passing ability. He's a very nice pickup. When playing alongside Ray Allen, your wings would be weak on the boards so the other three players need to have some strong rebounding.

Overall

I think you have three high quality defensive players in the rotation with Nene, Kenyon Martin and George Hill. Nene and Martin are the backbone of your side both defensively + overall. They are the players I'd treasure the most.

The rest of your squad has a few of average defenders (Hill, Parker ... Ray's inconsistent D is hard to peg down), a poor-to-decent defender in Lawson and a poor-to-very poor defender in Zach Randolph.

I'm thinking the squad will be slightly above average defensively and while Kenyon + Nene are on the floor together they are a top 10 defensive team.

Offensively, only one go-to scorer but an abundance of efficient + capable of offensive players in Nene, Ray Allen, Grant Hill, Ty Lawson and Anthony Parker. Solid offensive play from George Hill and Kenyon Martin too. A good offensive team.

I'm thinking this Knicks team is a 45-48 win squad.

[ChampKind]

Fake Grizzlies:

PG - Jose Calderon - $8.219m
SG - O.J. Mayo - $4.165m
SF - Paul Pierce - $19.795m
PF - Carl Landry - $3m
C  - Marc Gasol - $3.24m

Bench:
PG - Ramon Sessions - $3.67m
PG/SG - Sweet Lou Williams - $4.972m
SF/PF - Hakim Warrick - $3m
C/PF - Ronny Turiaf $4.14m

Total Salary 2010: $54.201m

Completely forgot I had Warrick. Oops. Maybe that makes a difference.

[indeedproceed]

UPDATED:

Devin Harris/Will Bynum
Sefelosha/Wes Matthews/Demarr DeRozen
Omri Casspi/DeMar DeRozan
David Lee/Ersan Ilyasova
Brook Lopez


Thoughts behind DeRozen Pick:

I already have Wes Matthews, who has gotten substantial minutes with the Jazz starting 5, but thinking long term, I'm going to need an athletic player that can turn into a scoring option.

I went with DeRozan here for this reason:

DeRozan is finding his way in Toronto, slowly but surely improving. Lately, he's put together a nice run, scoring 10 or more points in six of the Raptors' past 11 games as their starting 2-guard. In that span, he's made 41 of 69 shots.

I compared him to Courtney Lee this past summer, and I still see the similarities (except for his current lack of range as a shooter). He plays under control despite being one of the youngest players in the NBA.

Who knows how good he actually gets, but I'm optimistic.

[PLamb]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

It's a good team.

I'm undecided on which players I'd like to see start at the PG + PF positions. Whether the current starters (Zach Randolph + George Hill) or Kenyon Martin + Ty Lawson give the Knicks a better chance of winning. I'm not sure which one works better. Randolph gives you the go-to scorer and Kenyon Martin gives you a better defensive team. I think you need to keep George Hill (very good defensive player) with Randolph and Ty Lawson (talented offensive guard) with Kenyon Martin though, those duo's/combinations work very well.

The bench

I think the team should only go eight deep (D'Antoni will like that). Use Lawson + Parker + Kenyon in addition to the starting five.

Then have Amundson as an ninth man and Barnes as a tenth man. Not a fan of Barnes' defense or his streak shooting, that's why I wouldn't want him in the rotation. Excellent rebounding small forward though. I wouldn't play Amundson because of the talent amongst your three main bigs, all are vastly more talented and are able to handle the available minutes. Amundson is a very good second big off the bench, excellent pickup.

Quentin Richardson is another strong rebounding wing, a below average but serviceable defender and a good stand still shooter offensively. He's a very good 11th man.

Anthony Parker is a good role player; an average defender and an excellent perimeter shooter with a solid handle + passing ability. He's a very nice pickup. When playing alongside Ray Allen, your wings would be weak on the boards so the other three players need to have some strong rebounding.

Overall

I think you have three high quality defensive players in the rotation with Nene, Kenyon Martin and George Hill. Nene and Martin are the backbone of your side both defensively + overall. They are the players I'd treasure the most.

The rest of your squad has a few of average defenders (Hill, Parker ... Ray's inconsistent D is hard to peg down), a poor-to-decent defender in Lawson and a poor-to-very poor defender in Zach Randolph.

I'm thinking the squad will be slightly above average defensively and while Kenyon + Nene are on the floor together they are a top 10 defensive team.

Offensively, only one go-to scorer but an abundance of efficient + capable of offensive players in Nene, Ray Allen, Grant Hill, Ty Lawson and Anthony Parker. Solid offensive play from George Hill and Kenyon Martin too. A good offensive team.

I'm thinking this Knicks team is a 45-48 win squad.

Thank you sir

My hitting the giveth one button was more than deserving given your analysis

I figured this team about a 50 win team so I see we aren't that far off on our opinions

[wdleehi]

Those dirty Swine of LA


PG  Redick   (Who suggested this)
SG  Kobe
SF  Turk
PF  Gasol
C   Gortat


Bench

PG   Foye
SG   Bogan
SF   Moon
PF   Tyler Hansbrough
C    Boone

[wdleehi]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

Who would have thought it?  George Hill is your first player to have an off the court distraction.


I see disaster with this team in NY.  I don't buy the Randolph sudden change in behavior.  I think it is only a matter of time.  And by throwing him in there with Martin where they are fighting for minutes, well, that could be an interesting fight.

[indeedproceed]

New roster, almost complete.
PG: Devin Harris, Will Bynum
SG: Thabo Sefelosha, Wes Matthews
SF: Omri Casspi, Dorrell Wright
PF: David Lee, Ersan Ilyasova, Darius Songaila
C: Brook Lopez

2 more picks left.

Thoughts on additions:

Dorrell Wright will fill in very nicely behind the inexperienced Casspi. Wright has been turning his career around after problems with injuries and just flat out lack of playing time. He's shooting 37% from deep this year, and taking more now per game than he ever has in his career. He can shoot some of the midrange too, and he rebounds well. I don't think he's much for creating his own shot, but he's a good rebounder, and can snap into the small ball 4 in a pinch. On top of all that, he's a pretty good defender, and I won't feel bad putting him out there against elite 3's

Darius Songaila isn't huge and he isn't athletic but he's a hard nosed hustle player that can be left alone against most 4's on defense and can stretch the floor on offense. He's also 31 years old, so he's a pro, and he's supposedly a good lockerroom presence. It's his kind of 100% hustle and drive at his age that I hope will keep David Lee, Lopez and Casspi sharp.

[celticsclay]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

It's a good team.

I'm undecided on which players I'd like to see start at the PG + PF positions. Whether the current starters (Zach Randolph + George Hill) or Kenyon Martin + Ty Lawson give the Knicks a better chance of winning. I'm not sure which one works better. Randolph gives you the go-to scorer and Kenyon Martin gives you a better defensive team. I think you need to keep George Hill (very good defensive player) with Randolph and Ty Lawson (talented offensive guard) with Kenyon Martin though, those duo's/combinations work very well.

The bench

I think the team should only go eight deep (D'Antoni will like that). Use Lawson + Parker + Kenyon in addition to the starting five.

Then have Amundson as an ninth man and Barnes as a tenth man. Not a fan of Barnes' defense or his streak shooting, that's why I wouldn't want him in the rotation. Excellent rebounding small forward though. I wouldn't play Amundson because of the talent amongst your three main bigs, all are vastly more talented and are able to handle the available minutes. Amundson is a very good second big off the bench, excellent pickup.

Quentin Richardson is another strong rebounding wing, a below average but serviceable defender and a good stand still shooter offensively. He's a very good 11th man.

Anthony Parker is a good role player; an average defender and an excellent perimeter shooter with a solid handle + passing ability. He's a very nice pickup. When playing alongside Ray Allen, your wings would be weak on the boards so the other three players need to have some strong rebounding.

Overall

I think you have three high quality defensive players in the rotation with Nene, Kenyon Martin and George Hill. Nene and Martin are the backbone of your side both defensively + overall. They are the players I'd treasure the most.

The rest of your squad has a few of average defenders (Hill, Parker ... Ray's inconsistent D is hard to peg down), a poor-to-decent defender in Lawson and a poor-to-very poor defender in Zach Randolph.

I'm thinking the squad will be slightly above average defensively and while Kenyon + Nene are on the floor together they are a top 10 defensive team.

Offensively, only one go-to scorer but an abundance of efficient + capable of offensive players in Nene, Ray Allen, Grant Hill, Ty Lawson and Anthony Parker. Solid offensive play from George Hill and Kenyon Martin too. A good offensive team.

I'm thinking this Knicks team is a 45-48 win squad.

Thank you sir

My hitting the giveth one button was more than deserving given your analysis

I figured this team about a 50 win team so I see we aren't that far off on our opinions

Im not trying to be a hater here, but how does that team win 50 games? Everyone on this board wants to get rid of Ray Allen, but on another team he is the answer? Also, I love grant hill and was interested in trading for him. Howver, you combine him with Allen and you have literally 70 years of age at the most athletic positions on the court. Then you have a really bad defensive player in Randolph with only Nene as a real good defensive player. I would say .500 would require good health.

[PLamb]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

It's a good team.

I'm undecided on which players I'd like to see start at the PG + PF positions. Whether the current starters (Zach Randolph + George Hill) or Kenyon Martin + Ty Lawson give the Knicks a better chance of winning. I'm not sure which one works better. Randolph gives you the go-to scorer and Kenyon Martin gives you a better defensive team. I think you need to keep George Hill (very good defensive player) with Randolph and Ty Lawson (talented offensive guard) with Kenyon Martin though, those duo's/combinations work very well.

The bench

I think the team should only go eight deep (D'Antoni will like that). Use Lawson + Parker + Kenyon in addition to the starting five.

Then have Amundson as an ninth man and Barnes as a tenth man. Not a fan of Barnes' defense or his streak shooting, that's why I wouldn't want him in the rotation. Excellent rebounding small forward though. I wouldn't play Amundson because of the talent amongst your three main bigs, all are vastly more talented and are able to handle the available minutes. Amundson is a very good second big off the bench, excellent pickup.

Quentin Richardson is another strong rebounding wing, a below average but serviceable defender and a good stand still shooter offensively. He's a very good 11th man.

Anthony Parker is a good role player; an average defender and an excellent perimeter shooter with a solid handle + passing ability. He's a very nice pickup. When playing alongside Ray Allen, your wings would be weak on the boards so the other three players need to have some strong rebounding.

Overall

I think you have three high quality defensive players in the rotation with Nene, Kenyon Martin and George Hill. Nene and Martin are the backbone of your side both defensively + overall. They are the players I'd treasure the most.

The rest of your squad has a few of average defenders (Hill, Parker ... Ray's inconsistent D is hard to peg down), a poor-to-decent defender in Lawson and a poor-to-very poor defender in Zach Randolph.

I'm thinking the squad will be slightly above average defensively and while Kenyon + Nene are on the floor together they are a top 10 defensive team.

Offensively, only one go-to scorer but an abundance of efficient + capable of offensive players in Nene, Ray Allen, Grant Hill, Ty Lawson and Anthony Parker. Solid offensive play from George Hill and Kenyon Martin too. A good offensive team.

I'm thinking this Knicks team is a 45-48 win squad.

Thank you sir

My hitting the giveth one button was more than deserving given your analysis

I figured this team about a 50 win team so I see we aren't that far off on our opinions

Im not trying to be a hater here, but how does that team win 50 games? Everyone on this board wants to get rid of Ray Allen, but on another team he is the answer? Also, I love grant hill and was interested in trading for him. Howver, you combine him with Allen and you have literally 70 years of age at the most athletic positions on the court. Then you have a really bad defensive player in Randolph with only Nene as a real good defensive player. I would say .500 would require good health.

1. You are being a hater, whatever that is

2. Everyone on this board is not a professional basketball talent evaluator or a professional NBA GM or me so what they want to do is irrelevant

3. Here's some younger wing players, who would you rather have starting and playing 30 MPG for you Ray Allen and Grant Hill or them

John Salmons - 30
Dahntay Jones - 29
Kirk Hinrich - 29
Ronnie Brewer - 24
Brandon Rush - 24
Roger Mason - 29
Marco Belinelli - 23
Ryan Gomes - 27
Donte Greene - 21
Al Thornton - 26
Damien Wilkins - 30


They are younger

Should I have picked them and started them

What has age got to do with anything if Allen and Hill are still extremely talented, extremely athletic, extremely productive and extremely efficient

And exactly how many games have these two guys missed over the last 2 1/2 seasons

23 total between two of them spanning 2 1/2 years

3. I have a bad defensive player that over the last year and a half has been playing much better defense while remaining one of the more dominant low post scorers in the entire NBA

And I have Nene, Martin, Barnes, Hill, and Parker who are really good defenders and Hill and Allen that are okay defenders and Amundson that is a good shot blocker

Defense will not be this team's problem

4. The players on this team are amongst the healthiest in the league with almost no missed games this year

5. 48-50 wins is very doable for this team

[Edgar]

 


pst pst
remember

it doesnt matter what

crotors...as in Orlando will prevail

Saludos

Edgar

[PLamb]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

Who would have thought it?  George Hill is your first player to have an off the court distraction.


I see disaster with this team in NY.  I don't buy the Randolph sudden change in behavior.  I think it is only a matter of time.  And by throwing him in there with Martin where they are fighting for minutes, well, that could be an interesting fight.

What matters is I do buy it regarding Randolph, his change and this team's ability to work together

Also, Greg Oden was caught with naked pics too

So I guess Roy Hobbs and the Thunder got a bad apple and personality issue too, huh

[Lucky17]

New roster, almost complete.
PG: Devin Harris, Will Bynum
SG: Thabo Sefelosha, Wes Matthews
SF: Omri Casspi, Dorrell Wright
PF: David Lee, Ersan Ilyasova, Darius Songaila
C: Brook Lopez

2 more picks left.

Thoughts on additions:

Dorrell Wright will fill in very nicely behind the inexperienced Casspi. Wright has been turning his career around after problems with injuries and just flat out lack of playing time. He's shooting 37% from deep this year, and taking more now per game than he ever has in his career. He can shoot some of the midrange too, and he rebounds well. I don't think he's much for creating his own shot, but he's a good rebounder, and can snap into the small ball 4 in a pinch. On top of all that, he's a pretty good defender, and I won't feel bad putting him out there against elite 3's

Darius Songaila isn't huge and he isn't athletic but he's a hard nosed hustle player that can be left alone against most 4's on defense and can stretch the floor on offense. He's also 31 years old, so he's a pro, and he's supposedly a good lockerroom presence. It's his kind of 100% hustle and drive at his age that I hope will keep David Lee, Lopez and Casspi sharp.

Keeping my comments from last night in mind, I love the Songaila selection. Hard nosed, physical, a banger.

And Wright, if he has indeed turned a corner, could be a nice source of threes off the bench. He's 24, and yet this is his 6th season. Snakebit with injuries, but with luck, he'll stay healthy for you, IP.

[The Walker Wiggle]

pst pst
remember

it doesnt matter what

crotors...as in Orlando will prevail

Saludos

Edgar

Ah, you're just lucky I moved my team out of Miami or you wouldn't even have the best NBA franchise in the Sunshine state.

[Atzar]

Knicks

Starters

PG: George Hill
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Zach Randolph
C:  Nene Hilario

Bench

PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Matt Barnes
PF: Kenyon Martin
C:  Louis Amundson

What do you think so far Mr Who?

Who would have thought it?  George Hill is your first player to have an off the court distraction.


I see disaster with this team in NY.  I don't buy the Randolph sudden change in behavior.  I think it is only a matter of time.  And by throwing him in there with Martin where they are fighting for minutes, well, that could be an interesting fight.

What matters is I do buy it regarding Randolph, his change and this team's ability to work together

Also, Greg Oden was caught with naked pics too

So I guess Roy Hobbs and the Thunder got a bad apple and personality issue too, huh

I don't think anybody was calling George Hill a bad apple or a personality issue... just funny that on a team with Kenyon Martin and Zach Randolph, he was the first with his name in the paper for the wrong reason.

Not enthralled with the athleticism of the team - Nene is your only great athlete relative to his position.

I don't know about the team.  I wonder where you'll get your offense - I'm not sure Randolph is good enough to be a first banana.  By that, I'd expect you to have a good defensive team, but I don't think you're any more than solid on that side of the ball either.

It's a team with good depth, and it should be able to give several different looks to its opponent.  In the end, though, I see it as a slightly above .500 team with no particular focus on winning now or in the future.