Ray Allen and two future 1st Round Picks for Kevin Martin and Andres Nocioni

[PosImpos]

I agree that it ought to be just one pick.

[JSD]

As long as we are a playoff team, I'm not very worried about draft picks.

Cheap talent from the draft is important for this teams now and later. An asset is an asset right?

[Brickowski]

I would not do the deal, period.  I would do Martin, Bell and Randolph for Ray.  If Bell is out for the year, he can be waived to save the roster spot.  I want no part of Nocioni or Udrih. Petrie made his bed with those two, let him sleep in it.
Now if Petrie wanted to give an unprotected first rounder too, I might reconsider on Beno.

I would not give up any picks, not even a second rounder.

[slam]

I would not do the deal, period.  I would do Martin, Bell and Randolph for Ray.  If Bell is out for the year, he can be waived to save the roster spot.  I want no part of Nocioni or Udrih. Petrie made his bed with those two, let him sleep in it.
Now if Petrie wanted to give an unprotected first rounder too, I might reconsider on Beno.

I would not give up any picks, not even a second rounder.

Explain to me how we do this three team deal with Golden State and Sacramento?

[ssspence]

I would not do the deal, period.  I would do Martin, Bell and Randolph for Ray.  If Bell is out for the year, he can be waived to save the roster spot.  I want no part of Nocioni or Udrih. Petrie made his bed with those two, let him sleep in it.
Now if Petrie wanted to give an unprotected first rounder too, I might reconsider on Beno.

I would not give up any picks, not even a second rounder.

Bell and Randolph play on the Warriors, not the Kings.

[Who]

A core of Rajon Rondo + Kevin Martin + Kendrick Perkins is comfortably a .500 team with a decent supporting cast.

Add to that either a slowed down Pierce/KG (2011/12) or acquisitions via cap space (2012/13) and the team should be winning 46+ games at the very least. Only way either of those years turns into a lottery pick (post K.Martin trade) is if the team is decimated by injuries.

[Brickowski]

LOL, Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, what's the difference (I'd rather have Ellis).
Well let's see.  In a deal with Sacramento I would trade Ray for Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas (expiring), Sergio Rodriguez and a first round pick.

[Birdbrain]

LOL, Kevin Martin, Monta Ellis, what's the difference (I'd rather have Ellis).
Well let's see.  In a deal with Sacramento I would trade Ray for Kevin Martin, Kenny Thomas (expiring), Sergio Rodriguez and a first round pick.

One is great/elite and the other has a horrible shooting stroke and they are about as comparable as Ray Allen of 2000 to Ray Allen of 2010.

[jdub1660]

This is the only trade I would do with the Kings involving Ray
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfqgxk3
Ray,Giddens,House and Baby for Martin,Thompson,Udoka,Udrih and Noc
No picks unless we're getting some from them b/c we're taking on half of their non expiring contracts...

Great for us b/c we get a young vet in Kmart to be a better offensive threat. He can learn team D just as Ray did.
We get Jason Thompson to learn alongside Perk,Sheed n KG and be his predecessor.
Udrih becomes our permanent Rondo backup so Quis and Tony can play the 2/3 guards.
Nocioni would  become our Posey - hard nose dirty D on the opposing best player plus hit open 3s.
Udoka is a mere backup SF for us to use when one his hurt(like Pierce is now) and since Walker can't get minutes when we were short 5 players.

The Kings make a HUGE salary dump(around 20 mil + Kenny Thompson expires this summer - 28 mil) enough to sign 1 big free agent to play alongside Hawes and Evans.

[Cman]

I would not do the deal, period.  I would do Martin, Bell and Randolph for Ray.  If Bell is out for the year, he can be waived to save the roster spot.  I want no part of Nocioni or Udrih. Petrie made his bed with those two, let him sleep in it.
Now if Petrie wanted to give an unprotected first rounder too, I might reconsider on Beno.

I would not give up any picks, not even a second rounder.

Bell and Randolph play on the Warriors, not the Kings.

I guess people like to lump the cruddy Bay Area teams together...

I'd do Ray + 1st for Martin, Thomas (expiring).  Id do Ray for Martin, Nocioni.

[arctic 3.0]

Just say no to Nocioni.  We want Raja Bell (expiring) and Anthony Randolph instead.

had to log in just to give the old brick a tp for this one.
i like nocioni and martin but our future depends on finding KG a suitable avatar to inhabit. imo that is anthony randolph.

[rondohondo]

Just say no to Nocioni.  We want Raja Bell (expiring) and Anthony Randolph instead.

had to log in just to give the old brick a tp for this one.
i like nocioni and martin but our future depends on finding KG a suitable avatar to inhabit. imo that is anthony randolph.

we can get KG's replacement after sheed and KG'S contracts end because we will have a ton of cap space. I think Big Al is a free agent that year.

[arctic 3.0]

Just say no to Nocioni.  We want Raja Bell (expiring) and Anthony Randolph instead.

had to log in just to give the old brick a tp for this one.
i like nocioni and martin but our future depends on finding KG a suitable avatar to inhabit. imo that is anthony randolph.

we can get KG's replacement after sheed and KG'S contracts end because we will have a ton of cap space. I think Big Al is a free agent that year.

there is much KG can teach on a young'n. the sooner we get the kid in here the more time KG will have to school him in the ways of beastliness.

[Gemini]

Many people including myself have posted this trade idea. Is tough to tell was the sensuous is. I myself have has some heated debates. We know the upside and we know the downside of this trade. Help me settle this once and for all.

[Gemini]

the reason i started the poll was to get an acurate reading. Im not sure why it got merged into an old thred that knowbody is looking at anymore.