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Play Shelden Williams
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:56:00 AM »

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Since Baby (Uno-Uno) came back, Shelden has been MIA.  The record when Shelden plays 9 or more minutes is 20 - 5,  9 - 11 when he plays less.  He rebound better and is a better defender than Baby or Sheed.

By the way, when Baby plays 9 or more minutes they are 6 - 10.
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Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 11:03:21 AM »

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Yeah I want to see Sheldon too.  Couldn't hurt at this point.  I think the minutes / records is blowing it out of proportion, since Sheldon played a lot of games that KG played in, etc. 

I will say that Davis has played subpar and looks awful out there.  Have Sheldon take some of his minutes and see where it goes.  If it doesn't work out, go back to Davis. 

Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 11:05:01 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 11:09:10 AM »

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Maybe BBD needs some tough love. Take a seat big fella.


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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 11:11:23 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 
I disagree.  He may be ugly, but he played well when given a chance this year.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 11:13:56 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 11:16:27 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 

If he gives us more than BBD I am for it.

Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 11:17:02 AM »

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There are 2 reasons the C's have such a good record when Shelden plays

The first is because he was filling in for Davis while Davis was hurt while everyone else on the team was healthy and fresh from coming out of training camp and everyone was playing well

The other is because that means they are up big and the C's can put him in now as a garbage time player

Shelden is not better than the four bigs playing in front of him and does not deserve the playing time over any of them
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Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 11:19:17 AM »

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maybe he is not getting the minutes almost for the same reasons when he was not getting them in Atlanta,Minny...maybe the coach sees and knows something we don't?Could it be he's just not that good. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 11:19:50 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 

If he gives us more than BBD I am for it.

But he can't.  BBD is a significantly better player, who has been playing much better than Williams was at the beginning of the season.

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2010, 11:35:54 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 

If he gives us more than BBD I am for it.

That's my perspective.  Shelden has terrible hands.  However, I'm happy with everything else I've seen.  If BBD can't produce, it doesn't hurt to give Shelden some run, sort of like how the team handled the BBD/Powe situation.  Doc should go with who is playing better.

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Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2010, 11:39:15 AM »

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Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 11:52:40 AM »

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No.  He is not good. 

If he gives us more than BBD I am for it.

But he can't.  BBD is a significantly better player, who has been playing much better than Williams was at the beginning of the season.

That is 100% nonsense! Look at the stats. Williams stats per 36 are every bit as good as BBD's have been in all categories, and better than them in a few key areas like rebounding and lower turnover rates. The man finishes around the basket better, and rebounds aggressively. This is exactly what the second unit needs, not a prima donna who just wants to score.

I am not disagreeing that BBD has more upside, but there is nothing wrong with lighting a fire under the big fella by giving the person who has overachieved in his time out there his time until he decides if he's serious about giving it his all. So far he hasn't been and that can't be acceptable on a losing streak like this.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 12:00:51 PM »

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While I think Big Baby can ultimately be a better player than Shelden, he is not yet proving it. And I am a fan of BBD.

Also, as we seem to be sorely lacking on boards, Shelden would help there. Especially against a long lakers team, I think Shelden could have added value on Defense and rebounding.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Shelden Rasheed combo or even a Baby / Shelden combo to see what kind of chemistry each duo has.

But one problem with Doc, he seems painfully slow to try anything unusual.

Most likely he will finally play Shelden on someone like Rashard Lewis in the 4th quarter with .10 seconds left and the Magic down one. I never understood that. He used to do it with Gerald Green and also with TA. Guy hasn't played like one second of the game in the second half and then he'll bring in TA completely cold to guard Dwade , the hottest guy on the floor with 5 seconds left. What?

Anyway, I agree with your post, I'd like to see some Shelden. I mean he's on your bench and he's a decent big, why not find a way to play him.

Re: Play Shelden Williams
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 12:55:39 PM »

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I don't think much of Shelden Williams but I'd like to see get him get a run in the team for 2-3 weeks. See if he can give that bench a spark with his rebounding.