The all-purpose "feel good" / pep rally / "optimism only" thread

[Goldstar88]

Still up 3-2. I don?t expect the Celtics to shoot like trash two games in a row.

[Moranis]

Boston is clearly more talented and will win the series, but it is hard to be optimistic after that debacle.

[celticinorlando]

Don't see the Sixers winning three straight vs the Celtics and 2 of those in Boston. But faith is shaken.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Boston is clearly more talented and will win the series, but it is hard to be optimistic after that debacle.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Don't see the Sixers winning three straight vs the Celtics and 2 of those in Boston. But faith is shaken.

yet it did happen. first time ever we have choked a 3-1 series lead. complete embarrassment.

[Silas]

Don't see the Sixers winning three straight vs the Celtics and 2 of those in Boston. But faith is shaken.

yet it did happen. first time ever we have choked a 3-1 series lead. complete embarrassment.

Digging up bones??

[Phantom255x]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

[Celtics4ever]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

[slamtheking]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

[Goldstar88]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

Edgecombe was the 3rd overall pick in last years draft. He averaged 16pts/6rebs/4ast as a Rookie. There was no chance he was going to be a part of the trade. Brad should have been able to get Philon Jr, though.

[slamtheking]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

Edgecombe was the 3rd overall pick in last years draft. He averaged 16pts/6rebs/4ast as a Rookie. There was no chance he was going to be a part of the trade. Brad should have been able to get Philon Jr, though.

and PG's contract was considered the worst in the NBA when this deal was made.  Edgecomb was very much an asset that should have been included especially with the ridiculously few picks included.

[Goldstar88]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

Edgecombe was the 3rd overall pick in last years draft. He averaged 16pts/6rebs/4ast as a Rookie. There was no chance he was going to be a part of the trade. Brad should have been able to get Philon Jr, though.

and PG's contract was considered the worst in the NBA when this deal was made.  Edgecomb was very much an asset that should have been included especially with the ridiculously few picks included.

They were never going to get Edgecombe. There was not enough interest around the league for Brown. The value wasn?t there.

[Celtics4ever]

They were never going to get Edgecombe. There was not enough interest around the league for Brown. The value wasn?t there.

So let me flip that around on you, do you think we got value back?

[Roy H.]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

Edgecombe was the 3rd overall pick in last years draft. He averaged 16pts/6rebs/4ast as a Rookie. There was no chance he was going to be a part of the trade. Brad should have been able to get Philon Jr, though.

and PG's contract was considered the worst in the NBA when this deal was made.  Edgecomb was very much an asset that should have been included especially with the ridiculously few picks included.

They were never going to get Edgecombe. There was not enough interest around the league for Brown. The value wasn?t there.

There was a lot of interest in Brown. 

The problem was that Brad started negotiations with wildly laughable asks, and everybody rejected him.  Thinking that he wasn't serious, all of the interested suitors quickly moved on, as they were facing the start of the new league year / free agency.  That left us with the options of no deal, or a bad deal.  Brad took a bad deal.

If Brad had asked for two firsts and a young player from the beginning, my guess is that he would have had multiple offers. 

[smicker16]

I will say, I still think the Jaylen Brown trade was idiotic, and I'm not a huge Paul George guy at this stage of his career considering also his injury history/durability issues (including the suspension last season).

BUT I've been pleasantly surprised. He's fit in nicely with the team and has great chemistry already. And he's been awesome on the defensive end, carrying over from late last season. He's putting up 20/6/5 now but even if he consistently is around the 16/5/5+ range that'd be nice.

Tatum has quietly looked MVP-caliber so far

He has been great, and not the problem.  My issue  I have with the trade is lack of draft capital or not getting another player like Edgecomb.

this is what I've been saying about the trade and mentioned Edgecomb specifically as another player asset that Brad should have gotten from Philly.  The pick situation is a joke.

Edgecombe was the 3rd overall pick in last years draft. He averaged 16pts/6rebs/4ast as a Rookie. There was no chance he was going to be a part of the trade. Brad should have been able to get Philon Jr, though.

and PG's contract was considered the worst in the NBA when this deal was made.  Edgecomb was very much an asset that should have been included especially with the ridiculously few picks included.

They were never going to get Edgecombe. There was not enough interest around the league for Brown. The value wasn?t there.

There was a lot of interest in Brown. 

The problem was that Brad started negotiations with wildly laughable asks, and everybody rejected him.  Thinking that he wasn't serious, all of the interested suitors quickly moved on, as they were facing the start of the new league year / free agency.  That left us with the options of no deal, or a bad deal.  Brad took a bad deal.

If Brad had asked for two firsts and a young player from the beginning, my guess is that he would have had multiple offers.

I just do not think we will ever know if there was a lot of interest in Brown for more value than we got. And if there was that is bad GMing on both sides to not come back and negotiate fair from both sides. I just do not believe that is the case but I am skeptical of all reporting around this stuff so that is why.

The salary matching is tough and no young not contending team would trade a lot for him so then we trade him to a contending team for two late firsts and a guy like who? Scott Henderson? I think we need to be realistic about the fact that Brown had less value than guys like Desmond Bane and Mikal Bridges in this current climate.

Now Brad should have realized that and gone all in on Giannis. My guess is he didn?t want to trade 3+ picks, Hugo, Baylor, etc. along with Brown but I think they probably should have especially since Brad should have had an idea on what his value was at the time if you missed out on Giannis and had to trade him. Giannis was our only way back to legit contention I believe.