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What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?

0 - Jason White or Tommie Frasier. Your grandkid will say "Tim who?"
1 (1.6%)
1 - Eric Crouch. Not an NFL QB. Not an NFL player. Barely a CFL QB
6 (9.8%)
2 -  Tee Martin or Adrian McPherson or something. Drafted as a backup, but still doesn't make it
2 (3.3%)
3 - Todd Collins or maybe Danny Weurfeulish Career backup
1 (1.6%)
4 - Chris Simms or Rex Grossman or something. Will tease and make some starts, and show some potential but that's about it.
5 (8.2%)
5 - Brady Quinn. Not your biggest problem on the team, but not really a solution either. Nobody knows what to do with him.
2 (3.3%)
6 - Trent Ewardsish. - Will play and give you a chance to win, but that's about it.
3 (4.9%)
7 - Trent Dilfer or possibly Chad Pennington. - Will do some winning at times. May get to one Pro Bowl, but not one of the best of his era
8 (13.1%)
8 - Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco or Matt Hasselbeck/Aaron Rogersish or something. Good from day 1 or waits his turn and does well. Good enough to do winning and give hope for big things.
4 (6.6%)
9 - Drew Brees or Phillip Rivers. A very good QB in his era.
2 (3.3%)
10 - Manning, Brady, Montanaish
3 (4.9%)
Not Applicable. - Michael Robinson, Julian Edelmen, Brad Smithish
5 (8.2%)
Not in these categories. More like John Beck or Patrick Ramsey. Just a wasted high pick most likely.
1 (1.6%)
Collosal Bust ala Cade McNown, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf cause someone will draft him very high
3 (4.9%)
Doug Flutie. Break the rules. Change the game
15 (24.6%)

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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #345 on: December 14, 2011, 10:46:20 AM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on November 14, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
This stretch coming up in when Tebow can really start opening my eyes.   Beating up on the dregs of the league (MIA & KC) plus a listless OAK hasn't done squat for me.  Let's not underestimate the contributions of the DEN defense here, either.

Next 5 games: NYJ, @SD, @MIN, CHI, NE. 

Tebow's going to need to throw the ball if he's going to win those games.

I think he loses to the Pats this week.

That would be 4-1 in that 5 game stretch you listed.

Not too shabby for a running back playing QB who can't win in the NFL.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #346 on: December 14, 2011, 11:17:49 AM »

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Quote from: vvps on December 14, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
Quote from: Donoghus on November 14, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
This stretch coming up in when Tebow can really start opening my eyes.   Beating up on the dregs of the league (MIA & KC) plus a listless OAK hasn't done squat for me.  Let's not underestimate the contributions of the DEN defense here, either.

Next 5 games: NYJ, @SD, @MIN, CHI, NE. 

Tebow's going to need to throw the ball if he's going to win those games.

I think he loses to the Pats this week.

That would be 4-1 in that 5 game stretch you listed.

Not too shabby for a running back playing QB who can't win in the NFL.

the jets and san diego wins were solid.  not sure i count the minnesota / chicago wins for much at this point, though. 

the game against the pats will be interesting.  on paper the pats are the kind of team that should succeed against tebow (good run defense, weak pass defense, strong passing game, not reliant on the run, even more clutch QB).
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #347 on: December 14, 2011, 11:44:45 AM »

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Reiss always has an interesting take:
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Also, Tebow has been markedly more effective in the fourth quarter of games, thanks in no small part to the way defenses have treated him. Since Week 7, Broncos opponents have rushed five or more defenders on 40.0 percent of Tebow’s dropbacks in the first three quarters. In the fourth quarter and overtime, they’ve rushed five or more defenders on only 28.4 percent of his dropbacks. The change of 11.6 percent is the largest in the league, meaning that no team has seen a more drastic change in opponent defensive philosophy from the early parts of the game to crunch time. Since the Jets were burned on a seven-man blitz for the game-winning scramble on a Thursday night in Week 11, teams have sent extra pressure after Tebow in the fourth quarter at almost half the rate as they had before (37.0 percent before to 18.6 percent after). Defenses that can effectively play aggressively in the fourth quarter will solve the Tebow riddle, as his numbers are far worse against extra pressure.

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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #348 on: December 14, 2011, 12:08:36 PM »

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Quote from: vvps on December 14, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
Not too shabby for a running back playing QB who can't win in the NFL.
Well, if he wants to be thanking his lord and savior, then he must be thanking Matt Prater, I guess.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #349 on: December 14, 2011, 12:29:50 PM »

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Quote from: kozlodoev on December 14, 2011, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: vvps on December 14, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
Not too shabby for a running back playing QB who can't win in the NFL.
Well, if he wants to be thanking his lord and savior, then he must be thanking Matt Prater, I guess.

Could you imagine if Prater becomes to Tebow what Vinatieri was to Brady?


Me neither.
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« Reply #350 on: December 18, 2011, 07:59:22 AM »

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« Reply #351 on: December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM »

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Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.
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« Reply #352 on: December 18, 2011, 12:41:08 PM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.

Tebow could have opened my eyes in this 5 game stretch.

But if he loses to the Pats, all bets are off.

Going 4-1 in that stretch would show me he sucks.

No excuse for a grizzled vet like Tebow losing to a scrub like Brady.
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« Reply #353 on: December 18, 2011, 12:52:22 PM »

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Quote from: vvps on December 18, 2011, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.

Tebow could have opened my eyes in this 5 game stretch.

But if he loses to the Pats, all bets are off.

Going 4-1 in that stretch would show me he sucks.

No excuse for a grizzled vet like Tebow losing to a scrub like Brady.


I'll sit here, face the music and eat crow if Tebow pulls this off but I just don't see it happening. 

The wins have been impressive but I chalk a lot of it up to some stellar play by a very solid Denver defense and some exceptional kicking by Matt Prater who was the MVP of the Bears game last week (one could argue Marion Barber was the Broncos MVP too).

Tebow's in the big time today.  He's not going up against Christian Ponder or Caleb Henie this week.  This is his statement game.  I don't think he has it to keep pace with Brady.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #354 on: December 18, 2011, 01:14:58 PM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.
So the Pats are going to play totally differently than they did against the Colts and Redskins? I suppose that's possible. 

I got the Broncos at home against the Pats "defense", and possibly another sideline argument for Brady and a coach.
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« Reply #355 on: December 18, 2011, 01:22:23 PM »

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Quote from: eja117 on December 18, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.
So the Pats are going to play totally differently than they did against the Colts and Redskins? I suppose that's possible. 

I got the Broncos at home against the Pats "defense", and possibly another sideline argument for Brady and a coach.

How so?  I'd love some elaboration on that.
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Re: What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?
« Reply #356 on: December 18, 2011, 02:34:05 PM »

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Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: eja117 on December 18, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.
So the Pats are going to play totally differently than they did against the Colts and Redskins? I suppose that's possible. 

I got the Broncos at home against the Pats "defense", and possibly another sideline argument for Brady and a coach.

How so?  I'd love some elaboration on that.
Letting teams stick around. Letting QBs that nobody respects have very good days and letting games come down to the wire. Last week I think they allowed 170 yards rushing, right? Trying to cover guys with converted WRs
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« Reply #357 on: December 18, 2011, 02:38:50 PM »

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tebow will be the equivalent of tebow
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« Reply #358 on: December 18, 2011, 07:31:41 PM »

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Quote from: eja117 on December 18, 2011, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: eja117 on December 18, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: Donoghus on December 18, 2011, 11:12:37 AM
Pats win comfortably today.

The so-called "Tebowmania" gets subdued. There won't be a 4th quarter comeback this time around.  Broncos offense won't be able to keep pace with the Pats offense.
So the Pats are going to play totally differently than they did against the Colts and Redskins? I suppose that's possible. 

I got the Broncos at home against the Pats "defense", and possibly another sideline argument for Brady and a coach.

How so?  I'd love some elaboration on that.
Letting teams stick around. Letting QBs that nobody respects have very good days and letting games come down to the wire. Last week I think they allowed 170 yards rushing, right? Trying to cover guys with converted WRs
Well the Pats didn't do that this week.
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« Reply #359 on: December 18, 2011, 07:56:21 PM »

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Cardinals have won 6 out of their last seven, with a waaaaaay less effective defense, but because their QB doesn't have a good story, no one cares. Where's the Skelton love?
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