What will Tebow be the NFL equivalent of?

[Fafnir]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

[PosImpos]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

yeah, call me when tebow beats a good team with a good defense.

[Eja117]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

I don't remember that many QBs (well certainly not these guys anyway) that had win streaks like this in essentially their rookie year, especially after taking over.

Guys get on streaks, but I think this is at least a tad unusual.

[indeedproceed]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

yeah, call me when tebow beats a good team with a good defense.

You still living on Negative Nancy Lane in Denial, MA?

[Fafnir]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

yeah, call me when tebow beats a good team with a good defense.

Well the Bears next week have a very good defense. Unfortunately they had a top 10 QB and top 10 RB and average WRs and a bad offensive line. Had is the operative word.

Still I'll watch how my team defends him, even if my own offense is likely in a coma.

[fairweatherfan]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

Yeah, I don't follow the NFL too closely, but even I remember the "ALL VINCE YOUNG DOES IS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!!!" period a few years back.  Even a big chunk of an NFL season is still a pretty small sample size, especially when assessing an individual in a team sport.

[Cman]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

Yeah, I don't follow the NFL too closely, but even I remember the "ALL VINCE YOUNG DOES IS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!!!" period a few years back.  Even a big chunk of an NFL season is still a pretty small sample size, especially when assessing an individual in a team sport.

I'm on board with the Vince Young comparisons for now. Which, FWIW, is not a bad comparison. A lot of teams had trouble playing the Titans for a few years there. Tebow also seems to have a better attitude than Young. I hope for the best for the guy (except when he plays against NE), but at this point all he's shown me is that he's maybe got a Vince Young ceiling (which is better than I originally thought).

[Eja117]

Look...Tim Tebow has helped win 6 of the Broncos' last 7 games. That's 20% of the NFL. Until he starts to lose at a similar pace, I think its pretty fair to agree its time to stop the 'When the NFL figures him out' schtick. Just doesn't pass the smell test anymore (and let's not forget, I was touting that line for weeks at the beginning of the year).

Eh, Derek Anderson, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Vince Young and many others have put together similar stretches. Smell test in the NFL is longer term than 7 games (especially when many of those games are against bad teams). He's realy remindng me of Vince Young right now.

He did play very well yesterday overall, particularly in the second half.

Yeah, I don't follow the NFL too closely, but even I remember the "ALL VINCE YOUNG DOES IS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES!!!" period a few years back.  Even a big chunk of an NFL season is still a pretty small sample size, especially when assessing an individual in a team sport.

During that time were there tons of guys saying he couldn't play?  I think Tebow is at least healthier in the mind and more driven.

Interestingly according to wiki Merril Hoge maintained the whole time that Young couldn't play and still does. I wonder if Tebow fans snuck that in there. Since Merril turned out sorta right I'd think they didn't.

[nickagneta]

So for the second time in three weeks the Denver defense scores a touchdown, the broncos win by less than a touchdown, but it is Tebow that does all the winning.

Amazing. Simply amazing the denial that Tebow fans are in. He has what most top tier NFL QB's consider a mediocre week(200 yds passing, 13 yards rushing, 2 TDS and a fumble) and people are saying he played great.

People, the Denver Broncos are hot, not Tim Tebow. The defense and competition is more responsible for this winning streak than Tebow is.

[Eja117]

I guess I'm on board with the Vince Y comparisons too. Personally I consider that a huge upgrade from Eric Crouch or Cade McNown

[Fafnir]

So for the second time in three weeks the Denver defense scores a touchdown, the broncos win by less than a touchdown, but it is Tebow that does all the winning.

Amazing. Simply amazing the denial that Tebow fans are in. He has what most top tier NFL QB's consider a mediocre week(200 yds passing, 13 yards rushing, 2 TDS and a fumble) and people are saying he played great.

People, the Denver Broncos are hot, not Tim Tebow. The defense and competition is more responsible for this winning streak than Tebow is.

I wish I could say I had faith my Bears would give them a sterner test. But I fear their defense will score another TD at least next week  .

[Eja117]

So for the second time in three weeks the Denver defense scores a touchdown, the broncos win by less than a touchdown, but it is Tebow that does all the winning.

Amazing. Simply amazing the denial that Tebow fans are in. He has what most top tier NFL QB's consider a mediocre week(200 yds passing, 13 yards rushing, 2 TDS and a fumble) and people are saying he played great.

People, the Denver Broncos are hot, not Tim Tebow. The defense and competition is more responsible for this winning streak than Tebow is.

I see what you're saying. I agree the defense and competition has a lot to do with it. I'm saying you can lose in the NFL with a good defense, good RB, and a competent or above average QB, and that is exactly what the Broncos did with Kyle Orton.  Now they are winning with the same stuff and a supposed decrepit for a QB with smoke and mirrors.

I agree they're hot. But they just so happened to get hot the instant his feet touched the field in San Diego. Tebow has at least improved a bad team to a middle of the road team with confidence, and not everybody does that.  It hasn't really worked for Carson Palmer for example. Maybe a mild upgrade. He plays in the same division.  He's a vet. 

Tebow at least deserves to hear his critics to say something like "I still don't think this will work long term, but I could be wrong. The league is weird. Good for him for now."

[Greenbean]

So for the second time in three weeks the Denver defense scores a touchdown, the broncos win by less than a touchdown, but it is Tebow that does all the winning.

Amazing. Simply amazing the denial that Tebow fans are in. He has what most top tier NFL QB's consider a mediocre week(200 yds passing, 13 yards rushing, 2 TDS and a fumble) and people are saying he played great.

People, the Denver Broncos are hot, not Tim Tebow. The defense and competition is more responsible for this winning streak than Tebow is.

It's not just "people" or "the media" giving Tebow credit.

His teammates and defense are too.

Those are the guys who should be first in line to divert attention away from Tebow, who is way  down the list of "best football players on the Broncos".

He has displayed incredible leadership and praises his teammates (and God) in every interview.

His teammates are getting behind him and he has orchestrated some late drives to tie or win games.

You are right, the Broncos are hot right now and Tebow is getting alot of the credit. The thing is no one is crediting his play. No one is saying he is setting the world on fire with his quarterbacking.

People are saying that he is competing, leading, bringing his team together, not turning the ball over, and making timely plays when his team needs it the most.

It is a great debate but I dont think you can go so far as to say that Tebow has had little impact of this winning steak.

[GreenFaith1819]

Tim continues to surprise folks.

I absolutely love it. All that matters is the W, and DEN seems to be doing that a lot lately.

No matter how this ends for DEN and Tebow, he is proving that great numbers are only a portion of the equation - not the whole.

Keep it up, Denver!

Again.

And looky here, lol...he is actually IMPROVING..looking a little bit like a conventional quarterback....who'd thunk it

Keep it up, Denver..you are officially my 2nd favorite team.

[Eja117]

Has any other QB ever lifted a team up from bad to a winning situation like this, and got more begrudging credit (if you can even call it that) than Tebow?

I mean Ryan Fitz won a couple games and he was suddenly a long term solution. Now they're 5-7. I don't hear "Fitz can't play".  They just signed him to a 6 year contract. Where were the critics to say that was absurd?

Tebow has done the opposite and is given very little credit by many.

It's just the double standards I'm not cool with.