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Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2010, 05:15:32 PM »

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We would have to take on Dalembert's monstorous salary to get Iggy. To fit Dalembert and Iggy's salary we would need to trade Ray, TA, Scals, Giddens, House, Walker or most of those guys. Not worth gutting our team.

That's not true.  Allen and Giddens for Iggy and Dalembert works.  It means the C's would be taking on a ton of extra salary for this season and next, but it works under the cap.

Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2010, 05:25:41 PM »

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Are you sure Philly is not interested in a trade like this?

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 05:39:57 PM »

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From Espn

"The Sixers are only growing more determined to make a deal before the deadline. I’ve heard that in strong terms from three different sources this week already.

Which tells me we should expect to keep hearing more trade scenarios that include Andre Iguodala’s name.

Foiled in its longstanding attempts to move Samuel Dalembert and/or Elton Brand, Philly has apparently come to realize that its best shot at a shake-it-up move is convincing one of the risk-taking/big-spending teams out there – such Houston, Dallas and Cleveland – to absorb the four years and $56.3 million remaining on Iguodala’s contract after this season.

Not that I’d give the Sixers great hope of hooking Cleveland.

The Cavs are still chasing a big man that can stretch the floor with 3-point range and continue to hope they can get one by peddling Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ expiring contract"



PLEASE DANNY, PLEASE

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2010, 05:51:49 PM »

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I would absolutely ok this trade from a Boston perspective. I love Ray Allen, but he's just about done! Sorry Ray! We can't make the mistake of holding onto guys that were once productive (and in Ray's case, even that's a bit sketchy!) just to honor their existence.

This is a business, and players should be ready for trade at any moment.

This trade (probably) doesn't satisfy Philadelphia enough. But this would only require minor tweaking. Include Scalabrine, Tony Allen, and Eddie House, and with open arms bring back either Brand or Dalembert.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ylpu746

Philadelphia would look like -- next year, with a ton of cap space:
PF Marresse Speights
SF Thaddeus Young
C Jason Smith
PG Lou Williams
SG Willie Green or Allen Iverson

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 06:02:06 PM »

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I think we need exactly a iguodala-like player: 25 year old and very athletic. We can also move PP at two. Rondo-Iggy-Perkins is a very good core.

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2010, 06:27:36 PM »

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Rajon Rondo ($11 mil) + Kendrick Perkins ($9 mil) + Iggy ($14.7 mil) would be close to $35 million in contracts in 2012/13. Add in two first round picks in the 20s, another say $3mil. Let's say the rest of the roster is vacant, no other contracts, so a cap hold for empty roster spots of about $3.5 million. A total of $41.3 million.

The Celtics would still have a massive amount of cap space in 2012 if they built around a core of Rondo, Iggy and Perk. They could add a fourth star, hopefully an All-NBA guy, and make a Big Four. If that final piece was good enough I think that creates another contender.

If that piece wasn't good enough (if All-NBA guy not available), then I think the Celtics would need to add two quality scoring (17-20ppg) options. Of the $10mil per annum variety. Or one scoring option and one under-appreciated star (say a Paul Millsap type). In order to make a strong starting five somewhat comparable to how the Pistons built their title winning team.

Ray, Baby, Scal, JR for Iggy and Brand works
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2010, 06:39:04 PM »

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They might listen to Iggy and Brand for Ray, Baby, Scal, and JR just to get out from under Brands long running contract.  It works on the trade checker.  I'd throw in a first to get it done, too.

Doubtful they'd do this within division though, but still, if they want to get rid of Brand's contract badly enough, you never know.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjhka6l
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Re: Ray, Baby, Scal, JR for Iggy and Brand works
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2010, 06:48:33 PM »

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They might listen to Iggy and Brand for Ray, Baby, Scal, and JR just to get out from under Brands long running contract.  It works on the trade checker.  I'd throw in a first to get it done, too.

Doubtful they'd do this within division though, but still, if they want to get rid of Brand's contract badly enough, you never know.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjhka6l
;) I like, I like it A lot...lol but Philly isn't cracked out yet.

Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2010, 06:54:34 PM »

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Dalembert also only has 2 years left on his deal, so it only costs us for 1 extra year, and expires along with Pierce.

We would have to take on Dalembert's monstorous salary to get Iggy. To fit Dalembert and Iggy's salary we would need to trade Ray, TA, Scals, Giddens, House, Walker or most of those guys. Not worth gutting our team.

That's not true.  Allen and Giddens for Iggy and Dalembert works.  It means the C's would be taking on a ton of extra salary for this season and next, but it works under the cap.

Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2010, 07:07:43 PM »

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Dalembert also only has 2 years left on his deal, so it only costs us for 1 extra year, and expires along with Pierce.

We would have to take on Dalembert's monstorous salary to get Iggy. To fit Dalembert and Iggy's salary we would need to trade Ray, TA, Scals, Giddens, House, Walker or most of those guys. Not worth gutting our team.

That's not true.  Allen and Giddens for Iggy and Dalembert works.  It means the C's would be taking on a ton of extra salary for this season and next, but it works under the cap.
Iggy is quite a talent to get rid of just to rid themselves of one year of Dally's contract.  I think you'd have to take Brand's contract instead to get Iggy.

Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2010, 07:19:58 PM »

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Dalembert also only has 2 years left on his deal, so it only costs us for 1 extra year, and expires along with Pierce.

We would have to take on Dalembert's monstorous salary to get Iggy. To fit Dalembert and Iggy's salary we would need to trade Ray, TA, Scals, Giddens, House, Walker or most of those guys. Not worth gutting our team.

That's not true.  Allen and Giddens for Iggy and Dalembert works.  It means the C's would be taking on a ton of extra salary for this season and next, but it works under the cap.
Iggy is quite a talent to get rid of just to rid themselves of one year of Dally's contract.  I think you'd have to take Brand's contract instead to get Iggy.

  Iggy's quite a talent but Philly's had buyer's remorse since not long after they signed him to the contract.

Re: Andre Iguodala
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2010, 08:43:17 PM »

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We would have to take on Dalembert's monstorous salary to get Iggy. To fit Dalembert and Iggy's salary we would need to trade Ray, TA, Scals, Giddens, House, Walker or most of those guys. Not worth gutting our team.

That's not true.  Allen and Giddens for Iggy and Dalembert works.  It means the C's would be taking on a ton of extra salary for this season and next, but it works under the cap.

That's a great trade for us and a good dump for the Sixers.

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2010, 09:59:55 PM »

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Won't we be way over the cap if we take on those contracts? 

I'm all for it.  It makes us better now and for the future.  But it seems that we have a lot of huge contracts. 

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2010, 11:39:13 PM »

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Won't we be way over the cap if we take on those contracts? 

I'm all for it.  It makes us better now and for the future.  But it seems that we have a lot of huge contracts. 

yup, but only for like two years. Hopefully those are championship years and all that extra cash helps pay for it. Championships generate income. Let's get a couple more!

Kinda drunk, but I still think this is the team to beat= BOSTON!

Re: Iggy and Kapono for Ray Idea
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2010, 12:15:54 AM »

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I know this has been repeated a lot but the fact that Danny once said that he would have broken up the old big 3 really tells a lot.  Because Danny would have been right. 

And so what's the difference now? 

I think a trade will come out of no where just like how we got Ray.