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Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2010, 11:13:45 AM »

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Not panic moves but make one before everyone notices our bench players suck. We need to trade these sorry players with expiring contracts with something that can help. I really don't think we can go into the post season and win with this team is to inconstant and injury prone. 

They are not a bunch of rookies.  Teams have scouting reports on these players.


So, there is a chance that nobody wants what the Celtics have to offer unless the Celtics really overpay.
Overpay or take back a big contract for a meh player.

I'm pretty sure at the deadline we'd be able to get a guy like Kirk Hinrich if we really wanted him.

Definite possibility, but not now.
Yeah the Bulls are trying to get talent back at the moment. I think they'll have to settle just to dumping him.

Yeah, but I don't think the C's will have any interest on taking that contract, much like most other teams. 

Oh I agree, but a deal like that or overpay for a crappy player with a pick are Danny's only options at this point.

Unless one of the trade Ray scenarios actually comes together....

I think when the trade deadline gets closer, and more teams playoff aspirations fall apart, there will be possibilities to get players with more managable contracts, or even expiring contracts, if Danny can save them a few million, and maybe throw in the pick for good luck.

For example, if Milwaukee goes on a bit of a losing streak, and falls further back from the 8th seed, they could probably give up Ridnour for a couple expiring contracts and some cash (or if there are other bidders, throw in a pick).

Ultimately though, I think you are right, which is why I think Danny is waiting for buyouts, and will limit his trading to trying to get a team to take on Giddens for the rest of the season to save a little luxury tax.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2010, 11:36:22 AM »

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It's not like Danny is sitting around and doing nothing.  A lack of trades doesn't imply a lack of discussions.

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Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 11:50:57 AM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2010, 11:53:24 AM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 

But he does need to find a way to convince him to grow up.  Yeah, compared to many pro athletes, Davis' transgressions are incredibly minor, but if he keeps acting like a 16 year old, it is going to eventually get him in real trouble, and that won't be good.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2010, 12:19:55 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 


  And he's always going to be half the player he could be. The fact that someone with his skills has trouble operating near the basket because his size limits his quickness and jumping ability is frustrating to watch. He's almost as likely to get his shot blocked as he is to get a basket from in close.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2010, 12:22:15 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 


  And he's always going to be half the player he could be. The fact that someone with his skills has trouble operating near the basket because his size limits his quickness and jumping ability is frustrating to watch. He's almost as likely to get his shot blocked as he is to get a basket from in close.

On the other side, I don't think he is half as effective on the boards or in the post defensively if he is significantly smaller than he is right now.  His weight allows him to use leverage to control the post. 

Basically, what you see is what you get with Davis, for better or worse. 

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2010, 12:27:31 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?

Seriously though, I am not saying KG will heal everything, but when (if) he returns, his presence completely transforms this roster by pushing guys back into their proper roles, and will eventually right the ship.

What should be the real focus is trying to get everyone's heads back into the game, because the players on the floor are much better than they have been playing the last month.

TP.

Nate's probably coming anyways, and even if he isn't, if all we need is an extra player, well, let's see what happens if KG comes back on Friday.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2010, 12:33:00 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 


  And he's always going to be half the player he could be. The fact that someone with his skills has trouble operating near the basket because his size limits his quickness and jumping ability is frustrating to watch. He's almost as likely to get his shot blocked as he is to get a basket from in close.

On the other side, I don't think he is half as effective on the boards or in the post defensively if he is significantly smaller than he is right now.  His weight allows him to use leverage to control the post. 

Basically, what you see is what you get with Davis, for better or worse. 

  On one hand, I'm sure you're right, what you see is what you get. On the other hand I'm annoyed, because I kept hearing about how much better shape Davis was in before the season started and he comes back from a self inflicted injury  looking heavier than he did when I last saw him in May.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2010, 12:34:43 PM »

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This team is getting very frustrating to watch now. I now post this because i just was looking at rumors at ESPN and it said Ainge concentrating on the Celtics current roster. GREAT! Like that has been enough so far. This team is going to keep dropping wins if we dont make a move quick. Eddie has worn out his welcome with me. I really loved him his whole career but it seems like he cant do anything anymore. I mean if Danny doesn't see we need an upgrade what are we going to do? Something needs to get through to Danny, cause i guess losing to mediocre basketball teams isn't.  Also if anyone has an insider account i would love to know what it is saying about The Celtics. If you could thank you. But just looking for opinions right now on this subject.

What do you want him to say? We're desperate for a back up point, wing and maybe even a big man? That would certainly help in his dealing with other teams. That would be like going into a car dealership and telling them that your car is dying and you need to buy a new one today. Not to mentiong that I don't think it would be great for team moral if he was to say he's out there actively looking to trade some of them.
I'll be shocked if one or two deals aren't made before the deadline.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2010, 12:37:02 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 


  And he's always going to be half the player he could be. The fact that someone with his skills has trouble operating near the basket because his size limits his quickness and jumping ability is frustrating to watch. He's almost as likely to get his shot blocked as he is to get a basket from in close.

On the other side, I don't think he is half as effective on the boards or in the post defensively if he is significantly smaller than he is right now.  His weight allows him to use leverage to control the post. 

Basically, what you see is what you get with Davis, for better or worse. 

  On one hand, I'm sure you're right, what you see is what you get. On the other hand I'm annoyed, because I kept hearing about how much better shape Davis was in before the season started and he comes back from a self inflicted injury  looking heavier than he did when I last saw him in May.

Eh, he really looks the same as he did in the preseason.  I don't know what people were seeing when they said he was in much better shape. 

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2010, 02:10:36 PM »

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I have faith in Ainge!  He has given us a very good team from out best player to worst.  You have to assume the way he is that he has been looking at trades ALL YEAR.  If he can improve the team with the trading of anyone but Pierce, Garnett or Rondo he will.  I think we need to see our full team complete & healthy before the mass panic sets in.  If we can get henrick for eddie, giddens etc GREAT.  He'd answer a lot of problems.  I do feel the daniels/house backcourt was doing very nicely before the thumb injury.  Eddie is what he is a 3 pt shooter.  He can't create off dribble, can barely bring the ball over midcourt but is a good vet, plays hard d and when hot is great. 
If Ainge were to add a true backup pg or sf then our weakness is taken care of.  I think if everyone is healthy our playing rotation changes quite a bit.  You wouldn't see walker, giddens or williams.  Scal, Davis & Tony would see pretty limited minutes.

Re: Danny Ainge.
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2010, 02:25:32 PM »

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Yeah!  Danny needs to go and find a long, athletic power forward, who can defend the post and the perimeter, hit the 20 foot jumpshot, and a turn-around jumper in the post, and finish alley-oops from Rondo.  But where could we find a guy like that?


  He also needs to hire a personl trainer/etiquette coach for Big Baby. And, no, that's not a panic move.

I don't have a problem with the shape Davis is in.  He is always going to be that big, just get used to it. 


  And he's always going to be half the player he could be. The fact that someone with his skills has trouble operating near the basket because his size limits his quickness and jumping ability is frustrating to watch. He's almost as likely to get his shot blocked as he is to get a basket from in close.

On the other side, I don't think he is half as effective on the boards or in the post defensively if he is significantly smaller than he is right now.  His weight allows him to use leverage to control the post. 

Basically, what you see is what you get with Davis, for better or worse. 

  On one hand, I'm sure you're right, what you see is what you get. On the other hand I'm annoyed, because I kept hearing about how much better shape Davis was in before the season started and he comes back from a self inflicted injury  looking heavier than he did when I last saw him in May.

Eh, he really looks the same as he did in the preseason.  I don't know what people were seeing when they said he was in much better shape. 

  I didn't end up watching a ton of preseason ball. I'm just going by what I heard/read.