Perk Is A Turnover Machine! He's Not A Good Low Post Player!

[Bankshot]

Why have the Celtics made Perk the #1 option on offense? At least that's the way it looked last night.  They kept going to Perk when Pierce should have been the #1 option.  All he does is turn the ball over.  He will try his low post move regardless of whether he has a good shot at the rim, even with 3 opposing players around him.   And when he does pass, he turns it over.  Not to mention all the fumbles of the ball and illegal picks and offensive fouls.

What can be done to fix this problem with Perk?  Is there a solution?  He seems to have hands like Shelden now.   I don't remember Perk turning the ball over this much last season.

I know Perk will come back a better passer next year because he always comes back better than the season before, but what can be done NOW? 

[wdleehi]

The team plays best inside out.


Perk would be my third choice as the "Inside"



It should be

1) KG (when he returns)

2) Wallace.

[Bankshot]

The team plays best inside out.


Perk would be my third choice as the "Inside"



It should be

1) KG (when he returns)

2) Wallace.

yeah, but not when Perk is the one on the inside.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I haven't been watching much NBA this season. To tell the truth at the moment I don't care how the season goes about and don't care for the season long drama... all about the playoffs.

With that said, earlier in the season I complained about this particularly. I hate that they play through Perk so much. I'm fine with throwing him a bone here and there, but playing through him is just a mistake. It stagnates our offense, stops our ball movement, and Perk doesn't have the tools to open up opportunities for the rest of our players; like a Sheed and KG can do.

[BadNewsBarnes]

Perk has really frustrated me lately with his turnovers.  It seems whenever he gets the ball in the corner and tries to pass make to the lane it gets intercepted - almost every time. 

He needs to handle the ball a lot less.  KG's return should reduce his touches.

[Chris]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

[Donoghus]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.   That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

You nailed that one on the head. 

[Bankshot]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

Good points.

[Redz]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

Hopefully this is an area that will see huge improvement when KG returns.  Perk can be an integral part of the inside/outside game.  When the C's are at their best the ball is zipping around faster than the defense can follow it.  Perk is part of that offense, but I think (maybe hope is a better word) he knows his role better when KG is out there. 

[Chris]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

Hopefully this is an area that will see huge improvement when KG returns.  Perk can be an integral part of the inside/outside game.  When the C's are at their best the ball is zipping around faster than the defense can follow it.  Perk is part of that offense, but I think (maybe hope is a better word) he knows his role better when KG is out there. 

I have no doubt that Perk will be back in form when KG returns. 

Really though, I think anyone thinking the C's should be throwing huge money at Perk after next year needs to take a look at him right now, and ask themselves...is he a player they can build a team around?

[Donoghus]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

Hopefully this is an area that will see huge improvement when KG returns.  Perk can be an integral part of the inside/outside game.  When the C's are at their best the ball is zipping around faster than the defense can follow it.  Perk is part of that offense, but I think (maybe hope is a better word) he knows his role better when KG is out there. 

I have no doubt that Perk will be back in form when KG returns. 

Really though, I think anyone thinking the C's should be throwing huge money at Perk after next year needs to take a look at him right now, and ask themselves...is he a player they can build a team around?

Yeah, he's certainly not a guy that you do build teams around but he's a heckuva roll player and bonafide starter in this league.  He's a complementary piece, not a primary.

[Chris]

Is this a surprise?  Perk is a liability on offense when he is anything more than a 5th option.  If all you ask him to do is swing the ball at the top of the key, finish wide open layups, pound the boards, and make the occasional low-post move to keep defenses honest, then he is effective.  When you expect him to be a more integral part of the offense, then all of a sudden he becomes a liability.  That is not going to change.

Really, I think someone needs to sit Perk down, and tell him that he needs to back off a little and just do what he does best.  I think he has been trying to take it upon himself to do more when KG is out, and it has become detrimental to the team.  Get him back into his comfort-zone as a defender and last option on offense, and it will go a long way to improve things.

Hopefully this is an area that will see huge improvement when KG returns.  Perk can be an integral part of the inside/outside game.  When the C's are at their best the ball is zipping around faster than the defense can follow it.  Perk is part of that offense, but I think (maybe hope is a better word) he knows his role better when KG is out there. 

I have no doubt that Perk will be back in form when KG returns. 

Really though, I think anyone thinking the C's should be throwing huge money at Perk after next year needs to take a look at him right now, and ask themselves...is he a player they can build a team around?

Yeah, he's certainly not a guy that you do build teams around but he's a heckuva roll player and bonafide starter in this league.  He's a complementary piece, not a primary.

Exactly.  Which is why I think the line in the sand will be drawn at role players money.  So if Perk is looking to cash in on a deal worth $9-10 million per year, he will be doing it someplace other than Boston. 

[Who]

Agreed -- the frequency that the team is going to Perkins is bothering me too. He is just not effective enough to warrant that many touches, post ups and shot attempts.

Less is more.

[Fafnir]

Agreed -- the frequency that the team is going to Perkins is bothering me too. He is just not effective enough to warrant that many touches, post ups and shot attempts.

Less is more.

I'd be curious to what his post up chart shows.

I'm guessing that he's at least as effective as most of our other options down there. Accept maybe KG.

[Chris]

Agreed -- the frequency that the team is going to Perkins is bothering me too. He is just not effective enough to warrant that many touches, post ups and shot attempts.

Less is more.

I'd be curious to what his post up chart shows.

I'm guessing that he's at least as effective as most of our other options down there. Accept maybe KG.

I don't think the stats tell the story on that though.  When he gets the ball in the post, he takes way too much time, and he does not give any threat of passing.  A low post threat is not just about being able to put a move on, and score.  It is about being able to beat double teams, and use his inside scoring as a weapon to open up the rest of the offense.