We need Posey back

[wdleehi]

Posey, a player know for having bouts of lazyness, is not going to fix the "energy" problem right now. 

[housecall]

Lets remember Posey is a "role"player and when in times of leadership i do not expect its his place to be that guy.Usually leadership is works best from example,a role player is not the type of player i would think is the best guy to look for leadership.CP3 and D.West are looked to as leaders on the Hornets,as KG,Paul,and probably Ray is on the Celtics,your best players.

true, but he is a "chemistry" guy and the chemistry is just not there on the team right now.

He also has a some Big Shot Rob in him and it's always good having guys that can make shots...

It's often been stated that Pose's influence on our team in 08 was overestimated, but I think a season and a half out we're starting to see that Pose was a really important cog in the team's inner workings....

There was very little letdown in 08 when KG went down with that abdominal injury...

I agree with most of what you are saying,except i think Scal had more to do with stepping in for KG at that time than Posey's contributions as a leader.I am not saying Posey is not a potential good piece for this team,just i don't look at him as a leader on a team.

[winsomme]

Lets remember Posey is a "role"player and when in times of leadership i do not expect its his place to be that guy.Usually leadership is works best from example,a role player is not the type of player i would think is the best guy to look for leadership.CP3 and D.West are looked to as leaders on the Hornets,as KG,Paul,and probably Ray is on the Celtics,your best players.

true, but he is a "chemistry" guy and the chemistry is just not there on the team right now.

He also has a some Big Shot Rob in him and it's always good having guys that can make shots...

It's often been stated that Pose's influence on our team in 08 was overestimated, but I think a season and a half out we're starting to see that Pose was a really important cog in the team's inner workings....

There was very little letdown in 08 when KG went down with that abdominal injury...

I agree with most of what you are saying,except i think Scal had more to do with stepping in for KG at that time than Posey's contributions as a leader.I am not saying Posey is not a potential good piece for this team,just i don't look at him as a leader on a team.

Scal was in there for sure during that stretch, but Pose, not only from a stats perspective, really steppe up during that stretch. I think we can see an emotional void on this team when KG is out and I do think Pose is a guy that could fill that void.

I agree that Pose is not going to be the team leader in a playoff run, but he's a nice compliment to a KG in that emotional contribution department.

you need more than one team leader and I think a parallel is the Patriots who gradually lost many of their team leaders and they suffered because of it.

[KCattheStripe]

Can I ask a question? Where was Posey's mental leadership on last year's Hornets team? Shouldn't his leadership have been able to right a ship when the team was on its way to losing 7 more games then the year before?

Lack of talent and injuries, Posey can do nothing about it.

No. They were just as talented as the year before, and injuries are the exact type of thin you're suggesting Posey could lead a team through.

[KungPoweChicken]

Yeah, we miss the Posey of 07 08. But the present day Posey is just about washed up; no need for him here.

[Drucci]

Can I ask a question? Where was Posey's mental leadership on last year's Hornets team? Shouldn't his leadership have been able to right a ship when the team was on its way to losing 7 more games then the year before?

Lack of talent and injuries, Posey can do nothing about it.

No. They were just as talented as the year before, and injuries are the exact type of thin you're suggesting Posey could lead a team through.

They were just talented as the year before except they had a lot of injuries. And it was the typical scenario of a team overachieving a season, surprising everyone, and then going to its ormal level the following seasons.

Posey is not fit for the Hornets.

And yes, I'm sure that, had Posey been there over the past few games, he wouldn't have let the team collapse in the second half like it did. Injuries are not an excuse for our three last losses. Lack of energy and effort in the second half are to blame. Posey would have sparked this team like KG does. Not at KG's level, but still.

And I'm getting tired of people saying Posey is washed up when they probably see him play 3 times a year and say so to convince themselves that it was the right move to let him go.

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics need a guy like Posey. Posey in 2007-2008 was the leader of the bench and he held everyone on the bench accountable through his actions and leadership. Unfortunately Posey isn't the same player he was in 2007-2008. Not really an option now.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

How is anyone still second guessing the decision to let Posey go? Its been like 2 freakin years. There is no way to get him back, he is not worth getting back, move on.

yes he is. At least he will bring back mental leadership that none of the celtics players nor our own coach posses.

He is playing like crap in charlotte because what does he have to look forward to playing there? They don't have a chance to win with their team rebuilding. The celtics have good pieces in tact to win it in theory but just need something to lit a fire under it.

Its Posey. Some of you guys thought it could be Wallace to do that but with all of his whinning and crying he has instead flooded the basement.
We need posey, charles oakley type of player pronto

Umm, do you not see the ridiculousness of those two statements? You can't continue to complain about 'Seed and the myth of his whining and crying and being a bad teammate that ruins teams (which isn't true) and then call for Posey who you say is "He is playing like crap in charlotte because what does he have to look forward to playing there?" which is essentially saying he is a bad teammate and his attitude is getting in the way of his play and the team. Look at the realities not the narratives you have built up. So in your mind 'Sheed is bad for being selfish but what we need is this selfish Posey? Makes no sense. (And not to mention the analysis of both players is wrong)

[wdleehi]

Celtics need a guy like Posey. Posey in 2007-2008 was the leader of the bench and he held everyone on the bench accountable through his actions and leadership. Unfortunately Posey isn't the same player he was in 2007-2008. Not really an option now.

He was?


I thought KG and the other two stars were the team leaders?

[ScoobyDoo]

TP for the OP.

I think the team really misses both Posey and Leon Powe form a amental standpoint. Sure, Shelden and Baby can defend and put up equal numbers as Powe or better on most nights. Or Scal and Marquis can put up equal numbers as Posey or better on most nights.

However, to me what's important as far as affect on the team is "how the numbers are put up or how the D is played".

Baby, Shelden, Scal and Marquis, like them though I do, are complete marshmellows when you stand them up against Powe and Posey.

If I'm in a Foxhole, I want Powe and Posey with me, they are tough, tough, tough.

Those two brought a real mental and physical toughness to the the team that complimented Perkins adn KG's toughness on the first unit.

We don't have that now. And you know for different reasons ( perhpas correct reasons and choices, they arent' with us now). But you could have brought in equivalent guys in tersm of toughness. I think that value was misunderstood.

Reggie Evans and Matt Barnes would have been perfect replacements. Very similar games and both have a bit of nasty to them.

WE don't have any nasty off the bench, it's a problem. WE have a bunch or reactors, rather than instigators...  

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics need a guy like Posey. Posey in 2007-2008 was the leader of the bench and he held everyone on the bench accountable through his actions and leadership. Unfortunately Posey isn't the same player he was in 2007-2008. Not really an option now.

He was?


I thought KG and the other two stars were the team leaders?

Posey lead by example. Who on the Celtics bench now is leading by example?