Pats Texans 1/3/10

[Bahku]

So Bill risks making Brady's injury worse because it's "So important to win this game", then takes him out of the game on the last possession when he should have been in. What a complete waste of time and energy ... sorry, but sometimes Bill makes some idiotic decisions. Just can't fathom this one whatsoever. 

[PosImpos]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

[Bahku]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

[Roy Hobbs]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

That's what I don't understand.  If you're going to tank the game, why play your starters at all?  And, if you're going to play Brady, why keep him in there for every series except the most important one?

[Eja117]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

[Neurotic Guy]

And also guys, with wilfork an warren they dont run the ball against us. 

True, but not a great way to end the season given the Pats difficulty all year holding onto leads.

But, Indy's lost big and that defense can't seem to stop the run.

[Bahku]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

That's what I don't understand.  If you're going to tank the game, why play your starters at all?  And, if you're going to play Brady, why keep him in there for every series except the most important one?

Absolutely ... just don't understand it at all ... it makes almost as little sense as that 4th down play a couple weeks ago. Bill can be brilliant at times, (or at least seem to be), and then do something completely senseless. It's like for 43 minutes saying "Win, win, win ... at all costs, win!" and then in the last 5 minutes saying "Well, never mind ... I guess we don't need this one afterall" ... wow.    

[Bahku]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

Huh? So you play a star QB with broken ribs and lose one of the best receivers in the NFL just because you want to either make somebody else a hero or deflect blame from the coach?!? Sorry, but that makes no more sense than what Bill did in this one ... if that's "genius" then we can do without it. 

[Eja117]

One reason I don't have a problem with it is that Hoyer played better than Brady today.....could it be....could it maaaayyyybbbee just be that Hoyer gave us the better chance to win? Just maybe.

He's more mobile, which is kind of important when trying to get a first down or a TD

The Texans obviously hadn't studied any Hoyer film.

[Eja117]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

Huh? So you play a star QB with broken ribs and lose one of the best receivers in the NFL just because you want to either make somebody else a hero or deflect blame from the coach?!? Sorry, but that makes no more sense than what Bill did in this one ... if that's "genius" then we can do without it. 

I was saying if they lose they can deflect blame TO the coach.

Which is exactly what's happening.

Everyone is blaming the coach.

Nobody is blaming Brady's p--- poor play. Or the offensive line's. Or the defence's.

It wouldn't have been fun listening to that for a week before the playoffs

Kris Brown basically gift wrapped this one for the players (and so did Butler) and the players still couldn't get it done.

Did it appear to you that maybe the Texans were playing like they wanted it more?  Did you see them just bowl over the whole defense on that last TD?

Playing bad and staying in the game isn't a right.

I wish BB had done this weeks ago

[Bahku]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

Huh? So you play a star QB with broken ribs and lose one of the best receivers in the NFL just because you want to either make somebody else a hero or deflect blame from the coach?!? Sorry, but that makes no more sense than what Bill did in this one ... if that's "genius" then we can do without it. 

I was saying if they lose they can deflect blame TO the coach.

Which is exactly what's happening.

Everyone is blaming the coach.

Nobody is blaming Brady's **** poor play. Or the offensive line's. Or the defence's.

It wouldn't have been fun listening to that for a week before the playoffs

Kris Brown basically gift wrapped this one for the players (and so did Butler) and the players still couldn't get it done.

Did it appear to you that maybe the Texans were playing like they wanted it more?  Did you see them just bowl over the whole defense on that last TD?

Playing bad and staying in the game isn't a right.

I wish BB had done this weeks ago

Whatever the motivations, it was stupid to play Brady and Welker in a meaningless game, but if you ARE going to risk them, then you should at LEAST try to win the game! What's the point of risking those players and then lying down and giving the game away in the last five minutes?!? It's moronic and senseless, and Bill should be rethinking that one ... especially when he tries to explain throwing in the towel to Wes after risking his injury. No genius in this one ... not remotely.

[Rondo2287]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

Huh? So you play a star QB with broken ribs and lose one of the best receivers in the NFL just because you want to either make somebody else a hero or deflect blame from the coach?!? Sorry, but that makes no more sense than what Bill did in this one ... if that's "genius" then we can do without it. 

I was saying if they lose they can deflect blame TO the coach.

Which is exactly what's happening.

Everyone is blaming the coach.

Nobody is blaming Brady's **** poor play. Or the offensive line's. Or the defence's.

It wouldn't have been fun listening to that for a week before the playoffs

Kris Brown basically gift wrapped this one for the players (and so did Butler) and the players still couldn't get it done.

Did it appear to you that maybe the Texans were playing like they wanted it more?  Did you see them just bowl over the whole defense on that last TD?

Playing bad and staying in the game isn't a right.

I wish BB had done this weeks ago

Whatever the motivations, it was stupid to play Brady and Welker in a meaningless game, but if you ARE going to risk them, then you should at LEAST try to win the game! What's the point of risking those players and then lying down and giving the game away in the last five minutes?!? It's moronic and senseless, and Bill should be rethinking that one ... especially when he tries to explain throwing in the towel to Wes after risking his injury. No genius in this one ... not remotely.

I dont think you can blame the welker injury on BB.  He was healthy before the game.  And got hurt without getting touched.  It was a freak thing, but somebody has to play.  You cant blame BB for playin wes in the first quarter of the game. 

[Cman]

I understand playing the key starters for a quarter, to keep them "tuned".  Welker's injury was a real fluke. What I don't understand is playing Brady and Moss more than one quarter.  Just flirting with disaster.
 

[Eja117]

This game didn't matter today.  It would actually be better for us to play against the Colts in the second round, assuming we win in the first, than to play the Chargers in San Diego.

The main worry for us right now should be Wes Welker.  If he's injured for the playoffs, we're pretty much done.

 
Exactly ... so why in the name of all that's holy did he even play Brady, Welker and Watson?!? Now Wes is probably done for the season, because Bill played him in a near meaningless game!

I thought taking him out for the final drive was genius, and this is why.

If they win somebody becomes the hero (and possibly a lot more tradeable) like Hoyer, Slater, Watson, Green-Ellis, Edlemen, or Moss or someone

If they lose the media can't go after any of BBs players cause it's all his fault. No having to listen all week long to how Randy can't get it done or whatever

They were bringing a lot of pressure on Tom and he was getting sacked and then threw an interception. Not a bad motivational tool to the players to say "I can put in younger players you know. Nobody is above playing poorly you know."

It avoids any potential injury issue to Tom. It would be pretty aweful to get to the playoffs just to lose Tom now.

I think it makes the team hungrier for round 1.

Huh? So you play a star QB with broken ribs and lose one of the best receivers in the NFL just because you want to either make somebody else a hero or deflect blame from the coach?!? Sorry, but that makes no more sense than what Bill did in this one ... if that's "genius" then we can do without it. 

I was saying if they lose they can deflect blame TO the coach.

Which is exactly what's happening.

Everyone is blaming the coach.

Nobody is blaming Brady's **** poor play. Or the offensive line's. Or the defence's.

It wouldn't have been fun listening to that for a week before the playoffs

Kris Brown basically gift wrapped this one for the players (and so did Butler) and the players still couldn't get it done.

Did it appear to you that maybe the Texans were playing like they wanted it more?  Did you see them just bowl over the whole defense on that last TD?

Playing bad and staying in the game isn't a right.

I wish BB had done this weeks ago

Whatever the motivations, it was stupid to play Brady and Welker in a meaningless game, but if you ARE going to risk them, then you should at LEAST try to win the game! What's the point of risking those players and then lying down and giving the game away in the last five minutes?!? It's moronic and senseless, and Bill should be rethinking that one ... especially when he tries to explain throwing in the towel to Wes after risking his injury. No genius in this one ... not remotely.

I'm sure if he had known at the beginning of the game that the players themselves weren't going to try to win, then maybe he would have played different players.

He gave them a chance to win the game. They played cruddy the whole game. So then when it mattered he gave the chance to players that played like they cared.

He pinpointed a player who was playing horridly for the whole game and made a switch at an important time. If he had switched out James Sanders for Pat Chung or Stephen Neal for Dan Connolly we aren't having this conversation.

But because he subbed out a star Qb for a rookie QB, who then came in and played better but lost anyway everyone will be taking a big dump on BB all week, which is fine.

What if they had won? Then what would we be saying?  We'd be saying this Hoyer kid is awesome. BB must love him. But he's the exact same player.

[Cman]

In the end though, they go to indy in the second round which I think is better than SD.  (If cincy wins) and they prob wont have to play baltimore in the first round again if cincy wins

Yeah, but Cincy knows this, and would prefer to play Indy themselves, so Cincy will probably lose their game on purpose...