Can i get a little Tony love?

[moiso]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

I was thinking along these lines two years ago when Ray's ankles were limiting him.  It does make some sense now too.  As a 6th man, all those 3's that Sheed jacks up could be Ray's.  I bet he could score 15pts in twentysomething minutes in that role.

[makaveli]

Yeah, the guys playing great.

Hope he keeps it up, his trade value is on the rise.

Tony has/will have no trade value if you ask me, plus the Celtics will stick with him cause of Doc and Pierce(they did talk Wyc into signing him).
When he dunked yesterday, he landed just like when he hurt his knee against Indy, I got scared
Keep it up Tony

[wdleehi]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

Not a chance.  TA may play better when he starts, the Celtics are better with Ray starting. 

[EJPLAYA]

I hate TA as much as anyone on here, however he has played solid since his return. He did have a couple typical idiot plays, however for the most part he was playing well. Hopefully he keeps it up. I hate it when he dribbles though. Nothing good comes when he pounds the ball. He is a much better player when someone sets him up on the move. His shot looks absolutely awful from the outside so he needs to keep driving to the rim.

[Chief]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

Not a chance.  TA may play better when he starts, the Celtics are better with Ray starting. 

McHale was better than Cornbread, but the Celtics were better when they had a super 6th man.

[wdleehi]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

Not a chance.  TA may play better when he starts, the Celtics are better with Ray starting. 

McHale was better than Cornbread, but the Celtics were better when they had a super 6th man.

And for three years, we have seen this "TA should start over Ray" argument. 


Not going to happen.  Ray has been a starter his entire career.  No point in changing that now.

[dark_lord]

my feelings remain the same as this post from last week:

tony still sucks imo.  i can give him his due, he has played well as of late, but there is no way in hell i want to sign him after this season.  i still think he is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

[Chief]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

Not a chance.  TA may play better when he starts, the Celtics are better with Ray starting. 

McHale was better than Cornbread, but the Celtics were better when they had a super 6th man.

And for three years, we have seen this "TA should start over Ray" argument. 


Not going to happen.  Ray has been a starter his entire career.  No point in changing that now.

Sounds like Allen Iverson's argument.

[scoop]

Rondo can't play alongside Tony Allen (or Marquis Daniels) for extended minutes in the starting line-up (+Perkins), especially versus good defensive teams. Too little shooting in the backcourt that would lead to huge spacing problems.

[wdleehi]

I love Tony's game. He and Rondo wreak havoc when on the court together. Honestly, I'd love to see him start and Ray be our super 6th man. But, Ray's ego may still be too large for this and I expect Tony to get hurt any game now.

Not a chance.  TA may play better when he starts, the Celtics are better with Ray starting. 

McHale was better than Cornbread, but the Celtics were better when they had a super 6th man.

And for three years, we have seen this "TA should start over Ray" argument. 


Not going to happen.  Ray has been a starter his entire career.  No point in changing that now.

Sounds like Allen Iverson's argument.

Except we are talking about TA instead of Rip or Mayo on a rebuilding team.

[housecall]

I thought he was so-so last night.  Made some boneheaded passes and, more than once, dribbled himself into trouble. Also bit on a headfake pretty bad on the defensive end  However, he showed a lot energy out there last night chasing the ball all over the place and made some big shots. 

Like Belichick says "He is who he is".

I agree with you 100%...my biggest thing with most players are when i look at their contract($$$)they are paid, is playing a few decent games worth making a big deal of it?I hope he continues to play well as long as he is a C but im not going overboard in expecting it to happen.

[Roy Hobbs]

Rondo can't play alongside Tony Allen (or Marquis Daniels) for extended minutes in the starting line-up (+Perkins), especially versus good defensive teams. Too little shooting in the backcourt that would lead to huge spacing problems.

Yep.  A starting lineup with only one guy who is a three point threat would have major problems.

We've won 66 and 62 games with Ray as our starting SG.  Why mess with something that is clearly working, especially when you're replacing Ray with an inferior player?

[snively]

Very good game from TA.  Outside of a bad post entry pass, I thought he played smart, controlled basketball.  His two outlet touchdown passes were great examples of calm, head-up basketball.

His defense was also extremely solid and he kept up his good work on the boards.

It will be really interesting to see how effective he is as a 9/10th man once the regulars are back. House, TA, Daniels, Baby and Sheed makes for a very interesting line-up, one that might allow Doc to get more rest for Pierce and Ray (the bench plus Pierce or Ray line-up is the #1 reason why they log more minutes than any other starters).  House and Sheed spread the floor, Baby sets massive screens and rolls around, and TA and Quis hawk on D and slash on O.  

Of course that rotation would trim down to 8 or 9 for the playoffs, but for the months of February, March and April it could do a lot to keep the Big 5 rested and in rhythm.

[ScoobyDoo]

Yes, yes you can get a little Tony love. I have always been a big Tony Allen fan. He plays with more balls, toughness and hustle than just about everyone on the team except Garnett.

Tony "always" works hard on D and takes it to the hole with a vengence that gets us alot of foul shot opps and the other team in foul trouble. He's like Leon in that sense and that is important, very important. Getting the other team in foul trouble.

he has a nose for the ball, is a tough rebounder, gives us some much, much needed speed, athleticsm and aggression from the wing spot off the bench with his young legs.

Finally, he always has and always will make some incredibly boneheaded plays. But do those incredibly bone headed plays bother me any more than the other following, incredibly bone headed plays?

1. Pierce dribbling through three guys and having it stripped or make a very ill advised pass into traffic.

2. Ray Allen trying to act like a point guard which generally always ends in disaster, an intercepted pass or dribbling it off his foot?

3. Rondo leaping in the air for the 1,000th time with no where to pass the ball?

4. Perkins setting his 10,000th illegal pick?

5. Big baby trying to take another charge that turns into a block? or getting stuffed again?

6. Shelden fumbling yet another interior pass?

7. Rasheed getting yet another technical or clanking another three?

Give Tony  break. He gives us something we desperately need. Agresssion and toughness. and he brings it in bunches.

I'll take the mistakes with it, because the former is greater than the latter.

And if he tends towards boneheaded mistakes, then take advantage of his "good qualities" and limit the impact of his "bad qualities" by playign him earlier in the games to rest some other guys rather than later in the game when it might really hurt us.

I'd rather see Tony for 15 minutes earlier than Ray for 40.

There's your Tony love. I like the guy, always have.  

[Weird Facts]

Agreed,

PS: Did anyone notice how strangle similar Tony's dunk last night was to
his Career threatening dunk injury?

He even landed & fell the same exact way he did that terrible night.

Can't find a replay of the dunk from last night -
but if anyone else can please post it.