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Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2009, 10:11:57 AM »

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It isn't that scal doesn't rebound, it is that we  NEED him to rebound if he is on the floor, that is the open spot on this team. Did you see how cleveland signed leon powe even though he might not be able to play...you know why...he rebounds well...that is the need on this team, look at last night, phenoix killed us on the boards, no boxing out at all, well, maybe last night isn't an example because we are missing our guys.....as for scal, a forward needs to rebound, block shots, play a role in the paint, or shoot like KG on the outside, everyone says scal is this great D guy.....but i never see it, you all just lower the bar in sympathy, if he touches the ball on D you think it is heroic....

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2009, 10:12:05 AM »

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Scal's "intangibles" are the funniest thing in the history of this blog.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2009, 10:21:37 AM »

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Scal's "intangibles" are the funniest thing in the history of this blog.
That is a TP from me....he has invisible skills ..LOL..He would probably be a good pick up guy at the gym....but then again maybe not, I'd hate him on my team if he is that tall, and only runs into the corner waiting for the ball, onlt to clang it like every other hero shooter....!

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2009, 10:40:49 AM »

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To say that he didn't contribute last year is re-writing history.

To say that anyone would play well alongside good players is not true either.  Subbing out KG or Perkins in the lineup last year for Scally still resulted in high success.  Subbing out KG or Perkins for Davis (and other bigs) resulted in a losing record.  And this was over a large sampling. 

I'm not trying to justify his minutes at all, just tell you that this year he is playing outside of his only productive role and the result is absolutely abysmmal.  Scalabrine should not be playing with mostly 2nd unit guys.  If there isn't room for him on the floor with starters then you guys are absolutely right.. he should be benched in favor of pretty much anyone.


Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2009, 10:41:40 AM »

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If Scal were shooting the ball decently right now, then there would be at least some excuse to play him. Alas, he is not, and does not really deserve to be in the NBA right now.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2009, 11:00:34 AM »

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I think Scal always plays decent defense, and stays within the flow of the offense. But when he misses 3's, he has zero contribution to offensive production.  The difference between him and say, Ray or even Posey, is that when Scal misses a couple, it is over, he is not given the luxury of shooting out of a slump. The others are.

My biggest gripe with Scal is that he still has too much body fat. I wish he would done a super serious conditioning program by now. Not to be.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2009, 11:17:24 AM »

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The other players are just leaving Scals and doubling every time. You can't have this in the NBA. You take and make the shot, drive to the basket, or remain on the bench. Only three choices and playing hot potato with the basketball is not one of them.
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Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2009, 11:40:06 AM »

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The other thing about his inability to gather rebounds is that even when he boxes out someone, whoever's behind just goes over him to get the ball.  He has such little physical ability that he can't even secure a rebound when he has prime position.

Watch him the next time he gets in a game and a rebound goes to his side of the basket.  If it goes to him and someone's around him, that player will either get the rebound or get a hand on it to deflect it to someone else. 

Put Walker or Giddens in the same spot as Veal with that positioning and even as shorter players, they'll get that rebound.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2009, 12:01:00 PM »

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How about  19 minutes, no rebounds, 3 pf's, and 0 points each night.  :) At this point I need blob boy in the game so I can have a good laugh.
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Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2009, 12:29:02 PM »

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After watching "Scally" the past few years and going from loathing him to liking him, he has obviously not produced this year.  But, I don't think that's entirely his fault, and I think I've figured out why he has dropped off.

For starters, to say that he has a negligible role on this team is simply not true.  With the salaries of the starters the bench is somewhat thin, and as a result Scalabrine comes off the bench to play PF/SF. 

Scalabrine found success the past two years because he was on the floor with players who were very good offensively.  His biggest asset has always been that he makes very few mistakes, plays decent defense, knows when to defer his shot, and can hit an open 3 (the only thing of the 4 he isn't doing this year).  For an example of this, go to 82games and check out his stats from last year when he played a large amounts of minutes with the starters and you'll see that they were very successful with him on the floor.  But, due to injuries and the current roster rotation, Scally is now left on the floor with less options.  The result?  His inability to score on his own (at all) is highlighted.

Scally has never been a good rebounder, so why are people complaining about this now?  Probably b/c he is holding back the Celtics in other ways he hadn't before.  Don't expect him to start rebounding now.

The solution?  Either trade him or only play him with the best Celtics.  I would only include him in a trade if the Celtics got back someone who can defend the quick PF or long SF position.  Wallace, BBD, Shelden, and the rest of the bench can't guard this position.  Holding onto him isn't all that bad in the long term (of the season and post season), but clearly in the short term he should not be on the court with the second unit.  Thoughts?

Yeah, talk to Doc and tell him to do that.
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Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2009, 01:14:14 PM »

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Did any of you guys see when Steve freakin Nash grabbed the rebound over Scal? That was one of the most hilarious things i've ever seen. I mean, seriously? Steve Nash?

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2009, 02:06:38 PM »

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Did any of you guys see when Steve freakin Nash grabbed the rebound over Scal? That was one of the most hilarious things i've ever seen. I mean, seriously? Steve Nash?
see my earlier post---Scal can't even grab a rebound when he has position and there's someone near him with a minimal amount of athleticism.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2009, 02:50:54 PM »

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Bottom line - even with the injuries we probably would be better off with Walker or Giddens in the game because they at least have athletic ability. Scal should NEVER play. NEVER.

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2009, 03:01:48 PM »

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Bottom line - even with the injuries we probably would be better off with Walker or Giddens in the game because they at least have athletic ability. Scal should NEVER play. NEVER.

  So we'd be better of with Gerald Green or maybe Kedrick Brown than Scal?

Re: Scalabrine's biggest problem this year
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2009, 04:04:08 PM »

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Bottom line - even with the injuries we probably would be better off with Walker or Giddens in the game because they at least have athletic ability. Scal should NEVER play. NEVER.

I don't want Giddens.