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Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« on: December 26, 2009, 08:33:19 PM »

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Believe it or not, Statistically TA is outplaying Marquis Daniels. In less minutes, Tony has better numbers across the board. Not saying that Tony is better than Marquis, but he is doing work. I really like his energy, a blue collar player. If he can keep this up (Knock on Wood), we might be better off keeping Tony. The team just got deeper.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 08:40:08 PM »

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Believe it or not, Statistically TA is outplaying Marquis Daniels. In less minutes, Tony has better numbers across the board. Not saying that Tony is better than Marquis, but he is downing work. I really like his energy, a blue collar player. If he can keep this up (Knock on Wood), we might be better off keeping Tony. The team just got deeper.

At best, I see TA's decent showing of late to be something that makes him more valuable as a trade assett, not as someone we consider keeping. I'm glad he's doing well for his sake and the sake of his value, but there's more to Tony than just what's on the parquet, and I've seen nothing that would make me change my mind about letting him go ASAP.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2009, 10:10:02 PM »

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I don't see Danny making any moves except maybe activating Lue...Our team is deep enough, and he might not wanna mess with the chemistry---TA brings a lot more to the team than most give him credit for---something ALWAYS happens when he's in the game, cause he has that energy on D and that craziness on O.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2009, 10:58:33 PM »

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Shockingly, yes.

I actually love Tony Allen, even though he can't dribble, pass, make decisions, run plays properly, or anything really requiring basketball IQ. He plays with passion, and I love seeing him get excited out on the court when he makes a good play - he's a fun guy. Basketball doesn't always have to be so serious. Tony brings joy back into the game and actually makes some really nice contributions. Lately, he's been really filling up the stat sheet (good and bad) with lines like 6 pts, 4 rebs, 3 assists, 2 steals, 4 turnovers which isn't perfect, but still. He's an asset, and it seems like he does more good than bad. At least for now.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2009, 10:58:40 PM »

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A couple more strong starts, his trade value might increase.


That is the best we can hope for with TA as an asset.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2009, 11:15:27 PM »

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What was impressive to me yesterday is he started out rough, the 2 fouls and a dropped pass for a turnover. Before this year he likely would have mentally checked out as he would get so down on himself, but he scored 16 the last 3 quarters and only turned the ball over once.

TA only has 2 TO's the last 5 games which is almost hard to believe, and he has really stayed within himself. He has taken a few bad jumpers but you take that with all the good he is bringing, and he played very well yesterday despite the Magic being a bad matchup for him. We knew theyd just sag off of him and force him into Dwight, but he managed and was effective getting into the paint.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2009, 11:24:50 PM »

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I'd definitely say he's a keeper. With Marquis Daniels' injury history, it's always good to have another player to spell Ray or Pierce. He may not have the deep range they have, but he is a hustle player and another defender off the bench.

And IMO he is still not back all the way. He's only been playing for about two weeks now.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 12:10:42 AM »

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TA has literally blossamed in the past couple of weeks. He was excellent as our starter too and didn't freak out under pressure. We will definately keep him; hopefully for a long time IMO.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 12:24:14 AM »

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One thing to remember is that even if TA were to show the ability to consistently contribute at least as much as Marquis, it would still be difficult to play them both.

The reason for that is they are similar players in terms of what they bring to the table.  They have similar size and speed, and they both have to slash in order to score. 

They have no range, so you can't really play them both at the same time; it's already bad enough when Rondo and TA or Marquis are on the floor at the same time.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Marquis returns from injury, assuming TA continues to play at this level or better.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2009, 12:25:53 AM »

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TA has literally blossamed in the past couple of weeks. He was excellent as our starter too and didn't freak out under pressure. We will definately keep him; hopefully for a long time IMO.

Literally blossomed huh?  Guess I wasn't watching when that happened. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2009, 12:28:41 AM »

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There's nothing new about Tony Allen's game.  He's doing what he's always done when healthy.

You didn't think the haters were right, did you?  Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.  Trust your eyes.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2009, 12:30:55 AM »

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There's nothing new about Tony Allen's game.  He's doing what he's always done when healthy.

You didn't think the haters were right, did you?  Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.  Trust your eyes.

As one of the aforementioned "haters" I have to disagree.  TA is doing one very important thing that he hasn't done in the past: he's holding onto the ball

Granted, he still makes some stupid plays now and then, but not nearly so much as before.  That allows him to actually be a net positive while he's on the floor, hence he is playing significant minutes.

Now the question is: will it last?  We'll see.
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Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2009, 12:32:30 AM »

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Oh, he'll have a 3-4 turnover game-- as with Pierce, it comes with the territory when you are a slasher.  Then you can go back to hating.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2009, 01:02:00 AM »

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We need A wait and see approach with Tony. If he can stay healthy TA can help this team in the long run. Maybe he finally turned the corner? All i know is Pierce & Doc seem to like TA. Just have to wait.

Re: Is Tony Allen an asset now?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2009, 01:06:37 AM »

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Oh, he'll have a 3-4 turnover game-- as with Pierce, it comes with the territory when you are a slasher.  Then you can go back to hating.

Good call.