Doc= Overplaying the starters! just like last year!!!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

You don't want to hear it, don't want to believe it, but it is happening again...Why? Well, Doc's mentality hasn't improved, he is one dimensional....PP & KG...hurt.   Why not try a more blended rotation instead of the usual 5 starters till they get tired and hurt...?  Are they getting younger? Playing every game, all game 30+ minutes, well, look at the results, especially with the same injuries to the same players, did you also see Sheed holding HIS shoulder..? Yes, players get regular injuries, but lets keep focused on what REALLY matters here, does a regular season record make great history.....(Patriots), no one cares about the regular season, the only thing that matters is the playoffs and who wins the CHAMPIONSHIP. so that would be who is healthy and ready for these playoffs..Hey Doc, you tried this formula last year, show some growth, try a different rotation, one that develops young players and conserves the veterans until the playoffs, this will give them the sync that they need with the healthy bodies to go the distance....you can argue with me, but you can't dismiss what is going on.....PP, KG.....

[GreenFaith1819]

You don't want to hear it, don't want to believe it, but it is happening again...Why? Well, Doc's mentality hasn't improved, he is one dimensional....PP & KG...hurt.   Why not try a more blended rotation instead of the usual 5 starters till they get tired and hurt...?  Are they getting younger? Playing every game, all game 30+ minutes, well, look at the results, especially with the same injuries to the same players, did you also see Sheed holding HIS shoulder..? Yes, players get regular injuries, but lets keep focused on what REALLY matters here, does a regular season record make great history.....(Patriots), no one cares about the regular season, the only thing that matters is the playoffs and who wins the CHAMPIONSHIP. so that would be who is healthy and ready for these playoffs..Hey Doc, you tried this formula last year, show some growth, try a different rotation, one that develops young players and conserves the veterans until the playoffs, this will give them the sync that they need with the healthy bodies to go the distance....you can argue with me, but you can't dismiss what is going on.....PP, KG.....

IMO, I believe Doc is playing the starters less this year. Injuries are going to happen regardless of playing time, that's the nature of the game.

If I was to get an exact amount of time that the starters are playing, I'm sure it is no more than 30-34 min, which would be down a few min from last year.

Now of course the other injury is affecting the min count lately: Marquis Daniels. He subbed for Ray, Pierce and Rondo a lot.

I don't really get too concerned with Rondo playing a lot because he is younger, and Ray Allen seems to thrive off of playing extended minutes.

Perk/KG have Sheed and Shelden to sub for them.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

injuries do happen naturally, but some are more prone to happen, and you can prevent them also......that is my point, Pushing KG now, with those alley oops, not smart, not needed, not yet, PP's knee, as if it hasn't always been a problem, oh yea it just happened.....he will never say it, these guys are not like other teams diva's, these guys are real Celtics, they will play thru the pain, but that is the coaches job to understand that, that is why we hire ex players as coaches, because us older players know injuries, recovery time and the incredible desire to keep playing, a lot of us here are screaming " put in Bill Walker, Giddens, and all the other guys, so PP & KG doesn't have to pull the team now" This is a good time when Marquis, & BB come back to try a new look team for a change up, a FAST team, like Chicago had last year, 3-4 guards, hard to keep up with, tenacious D swarming attacking the basket, backed up with BETTER big men, and rotated with Ray & Eddies shooting, we have  a GREAT potential for an incredible rotation, with many different looks that are very hard to defend, Orlando cannot defend fast teams....

[adam8]

You don't want to hear it, don't want to believe it, but it is happening again...Why? Well, Doc's mentality hasn't improved, he is one dimensional....PP & KG...hurt.   Why not try a more blended rotation instead of the usual 5 starters till they get tired and hurt...?  Are they getting younger? Playing every game, all game 30+ minutes, well, look at the results, especially with the same injuries to the same players, did you also see Sheed holding HIS shoulder..? Yes, players get regular injuries, but lets keep focused on what REALLY matters here, does a regular season record make great history.....(Patriots), no one cares about the regular season, the only thing that matters is the playoffs and who wins the CHAMPIONSHIP. so that would be who is healthy and ready for these playoffs..Hey Doc, you tried this formula last year, show some growth, try a different rotation, one that develops young players and conserves the veterans until the playoffs, this will give them the sync that they need with the healthy bodies to go the distance....you can argue with me, but you can't dismiss what is going on.....PP, KG.....

Wow is really all I can say. Ray is playing the least minutes he has played since his rookie year, Paul has played this few minutes since his 2nd year in the league and KG is barely playing 30 minutes a night also the lowest total since his rookie year.

Do I need to go on Sheed has never played close to this small amount of minutes. Next time you want to rip on Doc try looking at the stats because he is actually doing an amazing job limiting minutes.

Just because people get injured does not mean they are playing too many minutes, JR Giddens could wake up tomorrow and slip on the ice and get hurt would that mean he is playing too many minutes? People need to give Doc a break hes doing a great job since he had talent and yet all this board does is blame him for everything.

[winsomme]

he doesn't exactly have lots of options.....that's why i would have loved to see Danny make a move for a SF/PF....in the mold of a Posey or Nocioni...

[dark_lord]

doc has done well managing minutes.  injuries happen, plain and simple.  if anything, the celtics appear to have learned something from last year.....they rested kg due to soreness, and pierce is out to fix the infection.  last year, they likely would have attempted to play through it.

[dark_lord]

People need to give Doc a break hes doing a great job since he had talent and yet all this board does is blame him for everything.

amen!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

PP does not have an infection, come on....two weeks to cure an infenction....he was scoped on his knees, cleaned up a lingering injury, we saw the knee thing last year.....so you are against developing young players (like Joe johnson or the point guard on Denver now) Doc never plays his younger guys along side the veterans like he should, mix them in, and KEEP Scal out, another Doc decision you guys can't defend (with any sense) Sheldon is so much better, more competent all around, look at those stats, scal vs sheldon....

[Birdbrain]

I don't have to believe it because it's not true in fact it's just the opposite.

They have plenty of players and all the starters are playing below their career averages in fact less than last year as well...  lol

Sheldon and scal will be going behind the bench in 2 weeks.

[dark_lord]

PP does not have an infection, come on....two weeks to cure an infenction....he was scoped on his knees, cleaned up a lingering injury, we saw the knee thing last year

no one knows for sure, you can only go based on what is reported.  all reports that i have read last night and this morning state its to clean an infection, which can happen if it spreads and isnt caught soon enough.  anything beyond an infection is speculation.

.....so you are against developing young players (like Joe johnson or the point guard on Denver now)

where did i even state that?  im not against developing a young player, if they have the ability to not only develop, but contribute now as well.  we are a veteran team built to win NOW.  our players for the future are perk and rondo right now.  giddens is terrible, walker has potential but is coming off an injury (and has history of knee injuries), hudson is too new to tell (i trust doc to evaluate him in practices, not in close games).  

Doc never plays his younger guys along side the veterans like he should, mix them in,

rondo and perk were 21 and 23 respectively 2 yrs ago when they started on the championship team.

and KEEP Scal out, another Doc decision you guys can't defend (with any sense) Sheldon is so much better, more competent all around, look at those stats, scal vs sheldon....

im not a scal fan, however he does fit a role, especially when bbd is out.  i would play sheldon more than scal, however there will be matchups that scal is a better defender/matchup.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Another misconception BB does not want to be a rebounder, he wants to be an outside shooter.....Sheldon is the better player, BB is proof of my concept though, his extra playing time and his chance to start last year brought him into his best form, and he almost lost some weight like he said he would.

[CoachCowens]

People need to give Doc a break hes doing a great job since he had talent and yet all this board does is blame him for everything.

amen!

Actually all this board does is defend Doc. He has walked on water with some for 2 years now.  Not that I agree with the OP. But If you make even a slight suggestion that Doc did something he wrong The Doc apologist come out in full force
 

[dark_lord]

People need to give Doc a break hes doing a great job since he had talent and yet all this board does is blame him for everything.

amen!

Actually all this board does is defend Doc. He has walked on water with some for 2 years now.  Not that I agree with the OP. But If you make even a slight suggestion that Doc did something he wrong The Doc apologist come out in full force
 

labeling other people 

[Birdbrain]

Another misconception BB does not want to be a rebounder, he wants to be an outside shooter.....Sheldon is the better player, BB is proof of my concept though, his extra playing time and his chance to start last year brought him into his best form, and he almost lost some weight like he said he would.

Powe guy...

[Birdbrain]

People need to give Doc a break hes doing a great job since he had talent and yet all this board does is blame him for everything.

amen!

Actually all this board does is defend Doc. He has walked on water with some for 2 years now.  Not that I agree with the OP. But If you make even a slight suggestion that Doc did something he wrong The Doc apologist come out in full force
 

Just make it a fact based argument at least.