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Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2010, 04:54:57 PM »

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Sheldon+Scal<Glen.

Glad Ainge is the GM.

This is like saying Poop+rabies<eggo waffles.     Sure, eggo waffles are ok and certainly better than poop and rabies... but it's not like I'm tied down to eggo waffles.  If someone offers me a bacon egg cheese bisquit, some eggs benedict or a hot dog... I'm going to consider it.   I like eggo waffles... if I'm starving I'll probably pop a couple in to the toaster...  but it's not like I wouldn't survive without them in my diet. 

No it's not.  Glen is a good player (not like poop), but Shelden and Scal are poop.
I know... Glen is an eggo waffle... lots and lots of eggo waffles.  With tons of butter, maple syrup and whipped cream.  Guy is hella fat.

TP to you for making me laugh in this post lol. 

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2010, 05:07:01 PM »

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"Scal covers Lewis as well as anyone in the league."  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This must be one of those Scal intangibles that I keep missing. Get the stiff off of this team, please.

Funny how its okay to make BBD out to be a much better player due to intangibles, however pointing out Scal's intangibles doesn't count for anything…

Scal is on a very tough shooting stretch, but he continues to play very solid defense and move the ball on offense. Yes I would love to get an extremely athletic big 3 to be able to put on players like Kobe and Lebron and Lewis, and if the right trade came I'd sadly send him packing, however Scal does produce in more ways than one and if you can't see it you're not looking.

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2010, 06:12:21 PM »

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EJPAYA, I have to agree with you and have never really understood all of the Scal bashing. Sure, he isnt the best player in the league but he's not suppose to be. It's kind of funny but when I watch him play it looks like he is slow and a little uncoordinated at times but when you watch his opponent on defense he seems to miss a lot of shots. I think people who never played the game or at least played it cerebrally can't understand this guys importance.

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2010, 06:54:01 PM »

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EJPAYA, I have to agree with you and have never really understood all of the Scal bashing. Sure, he isnt the best player in the league but he's not suppose to be. It's kind of funny but when I watch him play it looks like he is slow and a little uncoordinated at times but when you watch his opponent on defense he seems to miss a lot of shots. I think people who never played the game or at least played it cerebrally can't understand this guys importance.

Exactly. Bird would have LOVED Scal...

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2010, 06:56:55 PM »

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EJPAYA, I have to agree with you and have never really understood all of the Scal bashing. Sure, he isnt the best player in the league but he's not suppose to be. It's kind of funny but when I watch him play it looks like he is slow and a little uncoordinated at times but when you watch his opponent on defense he seems to miss a lot of shots. I think people who never played the game or at least played it cerebrally can't understand this guys importance.

And I'm on board with both of you.  Scal averages a whopping 9 minutes a game which is scewed high by increased minutes in blowouts and due to frontcourt injuries.  With the team healthy and in a tight game, he usually doesn't see the court -- msybe a spot minute for a defensive possession or to spell someone at the end of a quarter.  When he plays he rarely hurts the team and sometimes helps with hustle, defensive intensity/focus and an occasional 3.  Complaints about Scal are the result of people having to find something to complain about so they select the team's 12th man.  He is actually pretty decent security on the bench given his experience and ability to increase minutes when needs arise. My guess is that most GMs would want him on their team as a 12th man (albeit at a more reasonable 1 mil/year).  

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2010, 09:09:49 PM »

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Sheldon+Scal<Glen.

Glad Ainge is the GM.

This is like saying Poop+rabies<eggo waffles.     Sure, eggo waffles are ok and certainly better than poop and rabies... but it's not like I'm tied down to eggo waffles.  If someone offers me a bacon egg cheese bisquit, some eggs benedict or a hot dog... I'm going to consider it.   I like eggo waffles... if I'm starving I'll probably pop a couple in to the toaster...  but it's not like I wouldn't survive without them in my diet. 

No it's not.  Glen is a good player (not like poop), but Shelden and Scal are poop.
I know... Glen is an eggo waffle... lots and lots of eggo waffles.  With tons of butter, maple syrup and whipped cream.  Guy is hella fat.

You just made my point for me with the silly childish post.
Glen Davis will probably always have to fight his weight, just like my son, but we all have to deal with certain hereditary factors that aren't always in our favor. Actually, Glen's weight helps him be the defender he is. If you want to comment on his being slightly overweight at times, I'd like to comment on his strength. His physical strength and his strength of character.

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2010, 09:54:21 PM »

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Glen Davis rebounds, Glen Davis scores, Glen Davis can shoot and Glen Davis brings intensity to each and every game in which he plays. Brian Scalabrine is one of the 10 worst players in the NBA plain and simple, and hopefully his expiring contract will prove attractive to another team before this year's trading deadline. He is a 12th player at best for any team in the league. If you look up the word scrub in the dictionary, you will find Scal's picture for the definition.

Scal has averaged a little more than 9 minutes per game in 25 games. He is shooting 32 percent from the field and 25 percent from beyond the arc. He is averaging .6 rebounds per game. The guy has 16 rebounds in 240 minutes! He is averaging .5 assists per game. He has taken a total of 4 free throws this year and he is averaging 1.2 points per game. I am a season ticket holder and the only thing I can say for Scal is that he does hustle. Bottom line, however, is he has no skills and he adds nothing to the team.
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Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2010, 10:01:36 PM »

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I never wanted to trade Big Baby ... he has an irrepressable energy and effort that it's hard to put a value on. Even when he isn't scoring much, he is always giving 110% on both ends of the court, (like Leon did), and that excitement and spirit is contagious to the rest of the team, (and to me, a priceless asset). Loved Glen from the first time I saw him play, and it would take a major acquisition at a weak spot for me to agree to letting him go.
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Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2010, 10:11:04 PM »

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Glen Davis rebounds, Glen Davis scores, Glen Davis can shoot and Glen Davis brings intensity to each and every game in which he plays. Brian Scalabrine is one of the 10 worst players in the NBA plain and simple, and hopefully his expiring contract will prove attractive to another team before this year's trading deadline. He is a 12th player at best for any team in the league. If you look up the word scrub in the dictionary, you will find Scal's picture for the definition.

Scal has averaged a little more than 9 minutes per game in 25 games. He is shooting 32 percent from the field and 25 percent from beyond the arc. He is averaging .6 rebounds per game. He is averaging .5 assists per game. He has taken a total of 4 free throws this year and he is averaging 1.2 points per game. I am a season ticket holder and the only thing I can say for Scal is that he does hustle. Bottom line, however, is he has no skills and he adds nothing to the team.

That's it. Base your stats on a total of 240 minutes he has played.

When given more consistent minutes Scal has as good scoring and rebounding stats as BBD does (see last year he played for NJ) See that stretch in 08 when he started in place of KG. In scrub minutes he isn't going to come out and put up huge numbers, but what he does is come out and play very good team defense and keeps the ball moving on offense. No he isn't as talented as BBD is, but the guy can do a lot of things out on the floor and he doesn't hurt you. Go ahead and show me a team's 12th man out there that can step in and defend 3 big man spots if needed and is a threat to knock down the open three. How anyone can not appreciate Scal is beyond me...

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2010, 11:41:08 PM »

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I wouldn't trade Glen. He is another energy guy and Big off the bench for us..and with playoff experience.

Plus for someone his size, he moves really well..and is in probably the best shape of his life.

KG, Perk, Sheed, Glen and Shelden......plus sprinkle in a little Scal and you have a Big tandem that will frustrate ORL, ATL, CLE and LA.

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2010, 11:45:32 PM »

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Glen Davis is a mental abomination. His teary-eyed antics could cost us a game 7, get him the heck away from a team of this quality. The Pistons don't matter anymore, he can go.

His teary-eyed antics?  Really now?  He's an emotional guy, but so is KG.  Are we going to trade KG because he's too emotional?  He's also put up good games against other teams then the Pistons.  The Pistons were just his coming out party.
Scal is on the Celtics team for LUCK! The luck of the Irish. I like him; don't see any point in trading him. He can defend and occasionally hit some good 3 pointers. I don't see the big deal and why so many are against him. He is a good contributer and is superior to some of the new, young players we just acquired.
Baby Davis is necessary to us winning in the playoffs and championship. He is versatile, strong and keeps getting better every day. It would simply be idiotic to trade him. Yes, he's an emotional player and that's what most people like about him. He's young and inexperienced in life, had a very tough childhood and yet, has proven to be mature enough to accept critisism and take guidance from the more experienced players like Garnett and to have the character needed to be a strong team player. He has no guile.
I don't believe he cried after Garnett yelled at him, as so many have tried to make fun of. It drives me crazy to see supposedly mature people make fun of players without even knowing what was really happening. I have seen him with that same expression many times during games when frustrated; his expression looks like he is crying, but he's not. Even if he was, for a moment, shedding a few tears of frustration, what is wrong with that? Who are these childish bullies who laugh when someone is upset or frustrated? They are the same bullies of our childhood, only THEY never grew up. I am just sick of hearing the pettiness.

I respectfully disagree on one key portion of what you wrote.  Glen Davis is NOT necessary for this team to win in the playoffs and a championship.  Garnett, Pierce, and Rondo are necessary.  If Garnett is hurt again and this team is forced to play Glen all the time, then they'd have the same results as last year. 

Hi-five for forgetting Sheed.

I'm not forgetting him.  With Garnett out Rasheed has been starting and Davis subs for both Perkins and Rasheed.  As a result he's had a major increase in minutes.  This team is not designed to have Davis play 30 minutes a game in the playoffs.  Hence, Garnett is necessary.  If Rasheed got hurt it'd stink, but he's not quite "necessary" for a championship since he is a bench player.

Not having Garnett doesn't mean having Baby play 30 minutes. Secondly, Garnett getting injured with Sheed here is not a similar situation to the one we had last year. In order to be put in the same situation Sheed would have to get injured also. Baby was our starter throughout the playoffs. With Garnett out, he's still a bench player.

Re: So, you still want to trade Big Baby
« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2010, 11:47:53 PM »

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bbd is playing very decent ball
hes a good backup for sheed when sheed is our starter
I mean he was a good player during playoffs last year
and still playing in some kind of a good level even after all
hope he can keep himself there
Hes of course better than shelden and scal but a lot of players in this league are
so hopefully he can take it where he left it
and
contribute a little more
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