Caron Butler available, would you like him on the Cs?

[ScalPal]

SI.com is reporting the Wiz may dump some contracts including Butlers to save money since they suck.

He could come off the bench this year and replace Ray next year. Very tough defender and player, would fit well into what we do. Allows Daniels to heal and makes us 8-9 deep on the bench for our stretch run.

It works for Scal, Giddens, House and Walker if the Wiz want expiring contracts and a young player like Walker.

[Atzar]

Love him as a player, no way we can afford him... He's a borderline All-Star.

[nickagneta]

Only way we get Butler is to trade Ray. That's it because if Washington blows it up and starts trading Butler and Jamison, they are going to want expiring contracts back.

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Sounds like they'll only look to dump players if their season continues to tank. They're not quite there yet.

But he'd probably be the first to go...

[Change]

anything is possible!!!!!!!!!!

You try at least.


I hope Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler get traded. So Arenas can rot there alone.

[CbrewEra]

How old is Caron?  Is he young enough where he could be a part of re building with Rondo and perk after the big three era??  If so, sounds like a good chance to work toward the future.

[Who]

I doubt the Wizards give up Butler for cap space. He's too good a player + has too good a contract + is too young to sacrifice for cap space. Arenas or Jamison, yes, but Butler? That would be a very odd decision.

I fully believe that Caron Butler is available in the trade market but I think the Wizards will be looking for talent, not cap space, in a trade.

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I doubt the Wizards give up Butler for cap space. He's too good a player + has too good a contract + is too young to sacrifice for cap space. Arenas or Jamison, yes, but Butler? That would be a very odd decision.

I fully believe that Caron Butler is available in the trade market but I think the Wizards will be looking for talent, not cap space, in a trade.

He'd be the easiest to trade for both. Say, a young talent and an expiring deal. Arenas and (to a lesser extent) Jamison will be tougher to move...

[Brendan]

Butler can't be gotten for our crappy expirings, but having him would be great.

[Chris]

It would take at least Ray Allen to get him...so are you interested in that?

I would throw out an offer of Ray (and I would even throw in a first rounder) for Butler and Mike Miller, if they become desperate.

[rondohondo]

He is no where close to Ray as a shooter. He is only shooting 29% this year and 31% for his career from three point land. Allen is shooting 36% this year and 39% for his career. Butler is a better defender and stronger , but that's about it . I would love to have him if we could get him for BBD , TA ,Walker , Scal + a future 1st,  but I don't see that happening.

[Who]

I doubt the Wizards give up Butler for cap space. He's too good a player + has too good a contract + is too young to sacrifice for cap space. Arenas or Jamison, yes, but Butler? That would be a very odd decision.

I fully believe that Caron Butler is available in the trade market but I think the Wizards will be looking for talent, not cap space, in a trade.

He'd be the easiest to trade for both. Say, a young talent and an expiring deal. Arenas and (to a lesser extent) Jamison will be tougher to move...

Sacrificing Butler in a salary dump doesn't get the Wizards anywhere ... they still have too many other contracts on the books.

They have what $43 million on the books + cap holds for empty roster spots (5) + a first round draft pick. So they'll have maybe $3-7 million in cap space depending on where the cap ends up. That's worth giving up Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and the bird rights to Mike Miller + Randy Foye? To sign a player they could have gotten with their MLE? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Trading Caron Butler in a salary dump if other moves were already made or planned to be made ... that makes sense, that has value for Washington. But just a Caron Butler salary dump? By itself? Losing all that talent? For an MLEs worth of cap space? I don't get that.

That's a trade for the sakes of making a trade rather than give the club a way of improving itself.

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A trade that involves a young prospect + cap flexibility ... I would consider that a trade for talent assuming the prospect is the primary motivator for the deal (which is should be, otherwise I don't see the value).

[Who]

It would take at least Ray Allen to get him...so are you interested in that?

Nope, Caron Butler isn't as a good as Ray. Not offensively, not defensively. A significant downgrade.

I would throw out an offer of Ray (and I would even throw in a first rounder) for Butler and Mike Miller, if they become desperate.

Ooh, Mike Miller is pretty good though ... that would be tempting.

[Jeff]

if anything he's the best bargain on that team

they want to unload Jamison I'm sure and of course they'd rather get rid of Gil but nobody will eat that contract attached to those legs

the only way they deal Caron is for all star talent or if you'll take another bad contract with him

[rondohondo]

if anything he's the best bargain on that team

they want to unload Jamison I'm sure and of course they'd rather get rid of Gil but nobody will eat that contract attached to those legs

the only way they deal Caron is for all star talent or if you'll take another bad contract with him

Would you do a Ray + BBD for Butler + Jamison? That would cut their salary next year down to about 25 MIL, They could sign 2 Max level players with that kind of cap space.

The C's would be losing a little in the starting lineup with Ray, but the bench would be much more explosive, Jamison could even play a few mins at SF here and there .