Anthony Randolph on the block

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Here's the ESPN Insider report. Funny, I don't see Big Baby listed among the group...

"It was reported yesterday that Warriors forward Anthony Randolph is on the trade market.

According to Rusty Simmons of the San Francisco Chronicle, "Tuesday's news is a drastic change from a month ago. During the Stephen Jackson trade talks, which culminated with a Nov. 16 transaction, potential suitors were told that Randolph was off limits. ... It has become obvious that Monta Ellis can be a leader, and it is equally obvious that he needs a star to play alongside him."

Randolph's attitude is an issue teams will have to consider.

"His attitude still causes concerns," one Western Conference executive told the newspaper, "but his talent is limitless."

Carlos Boozer, Caron Butler, Tyrus Thomas and David West were all mentioned by league executives as potential trade targets for the Warriors."

[moiso]

I'd prefer Randolph over Wallace any day. 

[arctic 3.0]

we may be able to get randolph if we offer to take on turiafs contract.
 swap for scal and davis.
keep the inside/outside balance we currently have.

[Fafnir]

we may be able to get randolph if we offer to take on turiafs contract.
 swap for scal and davis.
keep the inside/outside balance we currently have.

Turiaf's contract isn't big enough to justify such a move. Not when they're getting very little talent in return.

[shiggins]

Some of you guys have to be kidding me...Randolph is Chris Bosh with more athleticism.  Hes one of the best prospects in all of basketball.

you wouldnt trade big baby for him?  Whaaaaat?

There is no one on the celtics roster aside from Rondo that the Warriors would even entertain the possibility of trading him for.  it just doesnt make sense for either roster.

If he has Bosh with more athleticism, he wouldn't be a prospect. He would be an allstar.

Well argued.

He's 20 years old...The Warriors and the most dysfunctional franchise in basketball and Don Nelson is one of the most terrible coaches.  He starts Mikki Moore for one, and then plays Corey Maggette at the 4.  Even John Hollinger has stated the single dumbest move so far in the league has been not playing Randolph.



Per 48 mins...

Chris Bosh - 15.4 Reb, 1.83 Blk
Anthony Randolph - 16.0 Reb, 2.86 Blk



I tried to do points but I cant figure out nba.com how I can find points...I go to scoring but it doesnt work.  Regardless Bosh def has him beat.

I'm not saying hes better than Bosh right now obviously.  Bosh is one of the top 10 players in the league.  But Randolph has a higher ceiling as he has more physical tools and should be potentially be able to do things that Bosh cant.  He will fill out and get bigger.  Hes much faster, can jump much higher, he has very good handle for a man his size...It just doesnt make sense they would trade him.  Will he realize all this?  Who knows, but still hes 20 right now and hes shown some very impressive flashes, albeit on the worst run franchise in the whole league while getting his minutes jerked around...So far I think it looks good.



EDIT - Also, can we stop trying to trade Big Baby.  Nobody wants him, thats why every single team in the NBA could have signed him FOR FREE, this summer and didnt.  Why in the world would they trade one of the best prospects in basketball for a guy they already decided they dont want?  Does this make sense to anyone?

[KCattheStripe]

Can someone name me a young player that Nellie didn't play that went on to become a star? It's not like Bellinelli is setting the world on fire in Toronto. Areis it that hard to believe Randolph may not be that good?

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Some of you guys have to be kidding me...Randolph is Chris Bosh with more athleticism.  Hes one of the best prospects in all of basketball.

you wouldnt trade big baby for him?  Whaaaaat?

There is no one on the celtics roster aside from Rondo that the Warriors would even entertain the possibility of trading him for.  it just doesnt make sense for either roster.

If he has Bosh with more athleticism, he wouldn't be a prospect. He would be an allstar.

Well argued.

He's 20 years old...The Warriors and the most dysfunctional franchise in basketball and Don Nelson is one of the most terrible coaches.  He starts Mikki Moore for one, and then plays Corey Maggette at the 4.  Even John Hollinger has stated the single dumbest move so far in the league has been not playing Randolph.



Per 48 mins...

Chris Bosh - 15.4 Reb, 1.83 Blk
Anthony Randolph - 16.0 Reb, 2.86 Blk



I tried to do points but I cant figure out nba.com how I can find points...I go to scoring but it doesnt work.  Regardless Bosh def has him beat.

I'm not saying hes better than Bosh right now obviously.  Bosh is one of the top 10 players in the league.  But Randolph has a higher ceiling as he has more physical tools and should be potentially be able to do things that Bosh cant.  He will fill out and get bigger.  Hes much faster, can jump much higher, he has very good handle for a man his size...It just doesnt make sense they would trade him.  Will he realize all this?  Who knows, but still hes 20 right now and hes shown some very impressive flashes, albeit on the worst run franchise in the whole league while getting his minutes jerked around...So far I think it looks good.



EDIT - Also, can we stop trying to trade Big Baby.  Nobody wants him, thats why every single team in the NBA could have signed him FOR FREE, this summer and didnt.  Why in the world would they trade one of the best prospects in basketball for a guy they already decided they dont want?  Does this make sense to anyone?

1) Bosh is not one of the top 10 players in the league until he does something more than post stats. All his teams have done is lose;

2) Teams didn't make offers to Baby because no one was willing to overpay -- a requirement to succeed in landing a RFA (read: David Lee). Had he been a UFA he would certainly have received offers. No, the Warriors would not trade Randolph for him, just sayin'....

[nickagneta]

Correction shiggins:

Anyone could have signed Davis this off season, but not for free and, because Davis was a restricted free agent the Celtics had the opportunity to match that offer and tie up a teams money offered to Davis for as much as a week, making them wait on their decision. This would mean that the money they slotted either from their cap space or from their MLE couldn't be used in the mean time. Utah did this to Portland with Paul Milsap and Orlando did the same thing to Dallas with Gortat.

Also, it was well known that the Celtics were likely to match the offer and keep Glen so most teams stayed away as they weren't stupid enough to offer a player that was worth about $2-3 million a year, $5-6 million a year so that the Celtics wouldn't match their offer.

Big Baby had interest from many different teams, those teams just refused to overpay for him in a down economy hoping to make such a large offer that the Celtics wouldn't match.

[Brickowski]

Anthony Randolph is talented but immature.  He left school too early. The Bosh comparisons are inappropriate.  They're both 6-10 and lefthanded, but the similarities end there.

Randolph might be a worthwhile project so long as he doesn't cost too much.

[moiso]

Randolph isn't a project.  As the per minute numbers show, he produces now.

[OCsWestCeltic]

I concur;  I would give Golden State Scalabrine, Tony, or BBD
plus Giddens or Walker to have Randolph and either Morrow or Watson.

Golden State's an entertaining team to watch play.

[yall hate]

I concur;  I would give Golden State Scalabrine, Tony, or BBD
plus Giddens or Walker to have Randolph and either Morrow or Watson.

Golden State's an entertaining team to watch play.

I dont think they would move Randolph alone for that package, never mind add in Morrow, lol

[nesnfsn]

How about Tony Allen, Brian Scalabrine and JR Giddens for Anthony Randolph and CJ Watson?

[moiso]

How about Tony Allen, Brian Scalabrine and JR Giddens for Anthony Randolph and CJ Watson?

Randolph has a lot more value than that.

[More Banners]

Look, I hate to be a party pooper, but we have some expiring contracts to offer, but that's all.  It's not like we have talent to offer in return without screwing up the good thing we've got going.  The only way we deal this year and get talent in return is either for a good player/bad contract, or with a team that is just dumping salary/players.  Even then, a team would want some picks to balance out the talent difference, and we'll have the lowest picks in the draft.  Nobody will want our picks, except maybe NY, who doesn't have one this year.  They can't afford to give up what little talent they have, though.

We're just not going to be making any big trades this year, except possibly for a role player off the bench at the deadline, if we're lucky.  Other than that, we'll probably make some salary dump moves with a team below the cap for financial purposes (luxury tax savings).

And isn't BBD a base year contract player, making him nearly impossible to trade?