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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2009, 10:03:16 PM »

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Pushing this to the top again. Every single game, the bench comes in without a point guard and the offense goes dormant. Won't work during the playoffs.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2009, 10:39:31 PM »

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Quote from: vinnie on December 08, 2009, 10:03:16 PM
Pushing this to the top again. Every single game, the bench comes in without a point guard and the offense goes dormant. Won't work during the playoffs.

Two comments:

1) Was tonight particularly bad because Marquis was out?

2) Isn't this more Doc or Marquis's fault than House's fault?  I've been awfully busy with work lately so I haven't seen as many full games as I would like, but from what I've seen, Daniels isn't handling the ball as much as he should when he's out there.  Don't know if this is a product of Doc or him or something else.  However, before we go out and make changes, I'd like to see what he can do handling the ball more. 
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2009, 01:33:06 AM »

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This thread needs to be brought back to the top. The Celtics need a legitimate backup point guard.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2009, 01:37:22 AM »

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The Celtics need Marquis Daniels back. I promise the issue we had tonight will go away when he's back.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2009, 01:38:05 AM »

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Quote from: Rondo_is_better on December 29, 2009, 01:37:22 AM
The Celtics need Marquis Daniels back. I promise the issue we had tonight will go away when he's back.

He's not a point guard.
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« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2009, 01:43:18 AM »

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Daniels runs the point better than a gunner like Nate Robinson.

The idea that the Cs lost the game in the 2 minutes Rondo was off the floor is crazy.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2009, 01:45:18 AM »

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Quote from: scoop on December 29, 2009, 01:43:18 AM
Daniels runs the point better than a gunner like Nate Robinson.

The idea that the Cs lost the game in the 2 minutes Rondo was off the floor is crazy.

That's not what I am saying. Bottom line is, Rondo is getting the crap beaten out of him and he is a fairly small guy. He can't play 46 minutes a game or he will get killed. He should be playing 35-38 minutes a game. The Celtics need someone who can run the team for 10-12 minutes per game. Daniels is okay, but is not really a point guard. Why does every other team in the NBA have a backup point guard? A real one, that is.
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« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2009, 01:49:27 AM »

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Daniels should solve this problem. What we need is to bench Scal? his 0 0 0 0 lines is getting old.
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« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2009, 01:50:10 AM »

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Quote from: Change on December 29, 2009, 01:49:27 AM
Daniels should solve this problem. What we need is to bench Scal? his 0 0 0 0 lines is getting old.

Hey, lay off Scal. He did have one foul tonight.  ::)
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2009, 01:52:56 AM »

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Quote from: vinnie on December 29, 2009, 01:38:05 AM
Quote from: Rondo_is_better on December 29, 2009, 01:37:22 AM
The Celtics need Marquis Daniels back. I promise the issue we had tonight will go away when he's back.

He's not a point guard.

Not in position. He has the skills. If he only played point, he wouldn't be worthy of a starting job in the NBA, but as a backup, his point guard skills are certainly good enough to play the position.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2009, 01:55:48 AM »

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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2009, 01:56:06 AM »

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Quote from: vinnie on December 29, 2009, 01:45:18 AM
Quote from: scoop on December 29, 2009, 01:43:18 AM
Daniels runs the point better than a gunner like Nate Robinson.

The idea that the Cs lost the game in the 2 minutes Rondo was off the floor is crazy.

That's not what I am saying. Bottom line is, Rondo is getting the crap beaten out of him and he is a fairly small guy. He can't play 46 minutes a game or he will get killed. He should be playing 35-38 minutes a game. The Celtics need someone who can run the team for 10-12 minutes per game. Daniels is okay, but is not really a point guard. Why does every other team in the NBA have a backup point guard? A real one, that is.

Well, because most teams don't have the playmaking from the wings that the Cs have. Anyway, it's your assumption true? The Cavs don't have a real point-guard, not even in the starting line-up. The Lakers have only one and he's on the bench. The Spurs march out there with Hill and Mason, none of them is a real point-guard either. And so on.

This concept that you need a real point-guard that dominates the ball and runs the offence like a quarter-back is a little outdated anyway.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2009, 01:57:37 AM »

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Okay. Maybe Marquis will solve the problem when he comes back. I guess my biggest issue is the team just completely breaks down any time that House is running the point. He simply cannot do it.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2009, 01:58:51 AM »

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Quote from: vinnie on December 29, 2009, 01:57:37 AM
Okay. Maybe Marquis will solve the problem when he comes back. I guess my biggest issue is the team just completely breaks down any time that House is running the point. He simply cannot do it.

This is true.
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Re: 2nd Unit Needs Pushy PG
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2009, 02:01:07 AM »

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