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pierce dunk or d-wades?
« on: November 30, 2009, 05:35:17 PM »

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Re: pierce dunk or d-wades?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 05:40:42 PM »

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The thing that puts DWade's dunk over Paul's is that DWade got the rebound off of Lebron trying to dunk on JO and then took it coast to coast to dunk on Varejo. That adds a level of nasty that Paul's dunk on Bosh just can't match.

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 05:41:14 PM »

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the capt dddddunk!

d wade was tight but paul's was dyno mite~

Re: pierce dunk or d-wades?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 05:48:21 PM »

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As I said in the game thread the other night when the two dunks were shown in split screen, simultaneously is how similar both dunks are and the contact made but how different the calls were made by the refs.

In Wade's dunk, AV got called for a blocking foul and Wade went out of his way to stop, turn around and step over Varejao menacingly without a taunting call. He got the basket and the free throw for the contact and no technical foul for the taunting.

In Pierce's dunk, Bosh didn't get called for the blocking foul even though the contact was obvious as was the Bosh's position within the circle. Pierce stopped, glared at Bosh some and left. He gets the taunting technical foul.

How can two plays that are almost exactly similar have to so different calls from the refs? It just goes to show that superstar calls do exist and that the officiating in the league is horrendous because of it.

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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 05:54:10 PM »

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As I said in the game thread the other night when the two dunks were shown in split screen, simultaneously is how similar both dunks are and the contact made but how different the calls were made by the refs.

In Wade's dunk, AV got called for a blocking foul and Wade went out of his way to stop, turn around and step over Varejao menacingly without a taunting call. He got the basket and the free throw for the contact and no technical foul for the taunting.

In Pierce's dunk, Bosh didn't get called for the blocking foul even though the contact was obvious as was the Bosh's position within the circle. Pierce stopped, glared at Bosh some and left. He gets the taunting technical foul.

How can two plays that are almost exactly similar have to so different calls from the refs? It just goes to show that superstar calls do exist and that the officiating in the league is horrendous because of it.

Yup... Either Paul gets no respect or DWade and LeBron get too much.

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »

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tough call.

wade cuz i really hate the punk he dunked on.

Pierce cuz its tough to do against bosh, and he is a celtic

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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 06:33:27 PM »

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I think that's harder to pull off in half court than in a fast break situation.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 06:58:55 PM »

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As I said in the game thread the other night when the two dunks were shown in split screen, simultaneously is how similar both dunks are and the contact made but how different the calls were made by the refs.

In Wade's dunk, AV got called for a blocking foul and Wade went out of his way to stop, turn around and step over Varejao menacingly without a taunting call. He got the basket and the free throw for the contact and no technical foul for the taunting.

In Pierce's dunk, Bosh didn't get called for the blocking foul even though the contact was obvious as was the Bosh's position within the circle. Pierce stopped, glared at Bosh some and left. He gets the taunting technical foul.

How can two plays that are almost exactly similar have to so different calls from the refs? It just goes to show that superstar calls do exist and that the officiating in the league is horrendous because of it.

And everyone's bashing Pierce for a 'dirty play' saying he kneed Bosh on purpose. It's like yeah, totally, I'm sure he was focusing on placing his knee into Bosh's crotch, when he was driving the lane looking to throw it down in his face right? Pierce is lucky he didn't get his knee stuck. lol

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 07:17:41 PM »

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I don't know, man. The plays were pretty similar. And even though Wade went out of his way to change directions and step over Varejao, he never really looked at him. Pierce, on the other hand, definitely gave Bosh the stare-down. I'm not saying I think one call was right more than the other, but I do think there was a notable difference between the two when it comes to taunting the guy that got dunked on.

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 07:37:01 PM »

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I think that's harder to pull off in half court than in a fast break situation.

TP. Didn't think of that but that is definitely harder to do at the half court rather than fast break. Not to mention Pierce had to beat the guy at the top of the key first.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 07:49:17 PM »

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I don't know, man. The plays were pretty similar. And even though Wade went out of his way to change directions and step over Varejao, he never really looked at him. Pierce, on the other hand, definitely gave Bosh the stare-down. I'm not saying I think one call was right more than the other, but I do think there was a notable difference between the two when it comes to taunting the guy that got dunked on.

Yeah, this isn't like Pippen over Ewing.

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »

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Pierce's dunk over Bosh was very impressive.  Looking at Wade's, I do think it was a more athletic move (perhaps enhanced by the open court momentum as previously mentioned).  I disagree with Nick that the taunting was equal -- Pierce held a pose staring right at Bosh and I didn't see anything Wade did that was directed to AV -- he stepped over him, but he had to go one way or the other, he didn't look at AV and didn't 'celebrate' till he was well away from Varejo.   
On the other, I agree with Nick that there was a blatant blocking foul on Bosh that was not called. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 08:16:27 PM »

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Pierce's dunk over Bosh was very impressive.  Looking at Wade's, I do think it was a more athletic move (perhaps enhanced by the open court momentum as previously mentioned).  I disagree with Nick that the taunting was equal -- Pierce held a pose staring right at Bosh and I didn't see anything Wade did that was directed to AV -- he stepped over him, but he had to go one way or the other, he didn't look at AV and didn't 'celebrate' till he was well away from Varejo.   
On the other, I agree with Nick that there was a blatant blocking foul on Bosh that was not called. 
To me the fact that Wade was already moving in one direction and then stopped just so that he could turn around and step over the man he just dunked on is the taunt.

Maybe it's just the football player in me who sees a person who purposefully steps over someone they just knocked down or tackled as being a form of intimidation or taunting. Happens a lot in football and believe me, being a former defensive player, that's a taunt. It's just not the typical 1990's-2000's stare and pose taunt. But it's a taunt nonetheless.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 08:25:07 PM »

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Both are great dunks on their own but the people involved makes them so much better for me. Usually how much I like a dunk is my love for the dunker multiplied by my dislike for the dunkee.

So let's see... Love for Pierce > Love for Wade but Dislike for Varejao >>> Indifference for Bosh  ???
Oh what the heck love conquers all and the truth will set you free so I'll go with Pierce  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 01:10:47 PM »

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I think that's harder to pull off in half court than in a fast break situation.

TP. Didn't think of that but that is definitely harder to do at the half court rather than fast break. Not to mention Pierce had to beat the guy at the top of the key first.

and dwade is quicker and more athletic than pierce