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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2009, 06:51:41 PM »

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Right now the playoff seedings based on actual results and not some arbitrary power rankings in the mind of the OP are:

1. Atlanta
2. Boston
3. Cleveland
4. Orlando
5. Milwaukee
6. Miami
7. Chicago
8. Indiana

If the playoffs were to start today, we won't be able to beat any team but the bulls. The bulls are too easy to defend with no low post presence. Thats about it. Everyone else has shooters, scorers, young motivated legs, and low post capability with athleticism.
Very true statement...that does not however change what seedings would be in place if the playoffs started today. Also, since that is probably a true statement based on the way the C's are currently playing, it's a good thing the playoffs don't start tomorrow and that if the playoffs were to start tomorrow, the Celtics would have to play the Bulls.

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 07:28:14 PM »

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#1 Orlando
#2 Cleveland
#3 Atlanta
#4 Toronto
#5 Boston
#6 Chicago
#7 Miami
#8 Washington

Right now if we could simulate to the playoffs. i'll say that would be the seed. But the Celtics will get better with time or injuries and make top 3 with minor adjustments.

Toronto?  Really?

I could see us ending up as the 4th seed the way we've been playing, but not the 5th.  Toronto will be lucky to get the 7th or 8th seed with their crappy defense.

Also, I disagree that Milwaukee, Indiana, or Miami could beat us in a 7 game series, even with the way we're currently playing.  We have too much playoff experience and depth to get beaten in 7 games by those teams.

On the other hand, I don't think we'd have a prayer of beating Orlando, Atlanta, or Cleveland in a 7 game series with the way we're currently playing.
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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2009, 07:34:25 PM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 07:49:28 PM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.

Yeah it would take a monumental collapse or an incredible surge by the Raptors or Sixers to lose out on a top 3 seed. We're sitting prettiest at the moment because the Cavs and the Magic don't yet have the separation from the rest of their divisions like we do.
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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 09:59:32 PM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.

Agreed, only because of how the system is set up. I can't believe you all are sleeping on Toronto. We're not going to beat them. We could probably beat Miami, but idk about Ray Allen defending D-Wade. A healthy Washington team can and will beat us. We got lucky with that Cleveland win (we did the same to them last year, beating them when the season started. we met them later at their home and got hammered). Bottom line is this... I am not a witness of this team. This team needs a scoring point guard and or a consistent 3-Point threat @ the 4 or 5 position. Donyell Marshall and Allen Iverson are available...lol ;D ;D :o :o

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2009, 10:04:56 PM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.

Agreed, only because of how the system is set up. I can't believe you all are sleeping on Toronto. We're not going to beat them. We could probably beat Miami, but idk about Ray Allen defending D-Wade. A healthy Washington team can and will beat us. We got lucky with that Cleveland win (we did the same to them last year, beating them when the season started. we met them later at their home and got hammered). Bottom line is this... I am not a witness of this team. This team needs a scoring point guard and or a consistent 3-Point threat @ the 4 or 5 position. Donyell Marshall and Allen Iverson are available...lol ;D ;D :o :o

Toronto is irrelevant at this point.  They score plenty, but that's only half the game - you have to, you know, stop the other team from scoring as well.  This is something they haven't shown any likelihood of grasping.

This team doesn't need AI. 

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2009, 12:08:13 AM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.
Thanks for proving my point LOL. Toronto = Great scoring good defense. Boston = Good scoring good defense. The celts will struggle if their defense is not great instead of good when they matchup. K.G will struggle with Bosh And Perk will have a hard time guarding Andrea *Bargani*, Pierce can't defend Turk...etc
Agreed, only because of how the system is set up. I can't believe you all are sleeping on Toronto. We're not going to beat them. We could probably beat Miami, but idk about Ray Allen defending D-Wade. A healthy Washington team can and will beat us. We got lucky with that Cleveland win (we did the same to them last year, beating them when the season started. we met them later at their home and got hammered). Bottom line is this... I am not a witness of this team. This team needs a scoring point guard and or a consistent 3-Point threat @ the 4 or 5 position. Donyell Marshall and Allen Iverson are available...lol ;D ;D :o :o

Toronto is irrelevant at this point.  They score plenty, but that's only half the game - you have to, you know, stop the other team from scoring as well.  This is something they haven't shown any likelihood of grasping.

This team doesn't need AI. 

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2009, 12:31:32 AM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.

Agreed, only because of how the system is set up. I can't believe you all are sleeping on Toronto. We're not going to beat them. We could probably beat Miami, but idk about Ray Allen defending D-Wade. A healthy Washington team can and will beat us. We got lucky with that Cleveland win (we did the same to them last year, beating them when the season started. we met them later at their home and got hammered). Bottom line is this... I am not a witness of this team. This team needs a scoring point guard and or a consistent 3-Point threat @ the 4 or 5 position. Donyell Marshall and Allen Iverson are available...lol ;D ;D :o :o

Toronto is irrelevant at this point.  They score plenty, but that's only half the game - you have to, you know, stop the other team from scoring as well.  This is something they haven't shown any likelihood of grasping.

This team doesn't need AI. 

Any team that wants to win should steer clear of AI. If you wanna sell some tickets, sign him. Other than that - move along, nothin' doin' there.
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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2009, 01:04:44 AM »

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There is no doubt that we've been playing crappy lately but calling us a 5-6 seed is just terribly inaccurate.

I agree. Don't the Celts automatically get a top three seed if they win the Craptastic Atlantic Division? If so, I would say they get the 3 seed.
Agreed, only because of how the system is set up. I can't believe you all are sleeping on Toronto. We're not going to beat them. We could probably beat Miami, but idk about Ray Allen defending D-Wade. A healthy Washington team can and will beat us. We got lucky with that Cleveland win (we did the same to them last year, beating them when the season started. we met them later at their home and got hammered). Bottom line is this... I am not a witness of this team. This team needs a scoring point guard and or a consistent 3-Point threat @ the 4 or 5 position. Donyell Marshall and Allen Iverson are available...lol ;D ;D :o :o

Toronto is irrelevant at this point.  They score plenty, but that's only half the game - you have to, you know, stop the other team from scoring as well.  This is something they haven't shown any likelihood of grasping.

This team doesn't need AI. 
Thanks for proving my point LOL. Toronto = Great scoring good defense. Boston = Good scoring good defense. The celts will struggle if their defense is not great instead of good when they matchup. K.G will struggle with Bosh And Perk will have a hard time guarding Andrea *Bargani*, Pierce can't defend Turk...etc

In what world do they play good defense?  They give up 107.9 points per game!  For those keeping track, that's good for DEAD LAST in the NBA.

Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 11:09:27 PM »

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After reading your sign and start Iverson post and then the first sentence of this post I think it's pretty clear you have severe problems with Rondo. Rondo is a major part of the solution for this team turning things around. He is a part of the problem, not the problem.

Besides Rondo's defense and shooting this team needs to work on Ray's three point shooting, ball handling and passing, KG's leg health and consistency on defense, Perk's foul prone play and stupid technicals, Pierce's need to try to do a majority of the offense causing ball movement to stop and his horrible perimeter defense, Sheed's penchant for playing outside ALL the time and his awful shooting slump, Eddie's shooting, team effort as a whole, and Doc's preparation of these players.

#1 Orlando
#2 Cleveland
#3 Atlanta
#4 Toronto
#5 Boston
#6 Chicago
#7 Miami
#8 Washington

Right now if we could simulate to the playoffs. i'll say that would be the seed. But the Celtics will get better with time or injuries and make top 3 with minor adjustments.

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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 11:12:56 PM »

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After reading your sign and start Iverson post and then the first sentence of this post I think it's pretty clear you have severe problems with Rondo. Rondo is a major part of the solution for this team turning things around. He is a part of the problem, not the problem.

Besides Rondo's defense and shooting this team needs to work on Ray's three point shooting, ball handling and passing, KG's leg health and consistency on defense, Perk's foul prone play and stupid technicals, Pierce's need to try to do a majority of the offense causing ball movement to stop and his horrible perimeter defense, Sheed's penchant for playing outside ALL the time and his awful shooting slump, Eddie's shooting, team effort as a whole, and Doc's preparation of these players.

#1 Orlando
#2 Cleveland
#3 Atlanta
#4 Toronto
#5 Boston
#6 Chicago
#7 Miami
#8 Washington

Right now if we could simulate to the playoffs. i'll say that would be the seed. But the Celtics will get better with time or injuries and make top 3 with minor adjustments.

****!!! Do you all remember this thread???? HAHAHA... Look @ This...  :-[http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

SMH in disbelief :-[

Yeah it's funny because somebody way overrated Washington and totally underrated Charlotte.  Of course, that was before the Jax trade and the Arenas suspension, but I digress.

Strange to think we were all talking like this earlier in the season.  I don't remember a really rough patch.  Nothing like this anyway.  Guess we had it good back then, huh?
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Re: Minor Configurations (Based on Observation)
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 11:52:17 PM »

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we sure did, but I seen it coming... :( wish I was wrong, because i'm very disappointed with this team. After the All-Star break for the bulls during the "Jordan Era" in one of those seasons they won almost all of their games. may have been the 98 Bulls. yes it was. they went 43-11 :o post-all-star and 34-15 :-\ pre-all-star