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Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2009, 12:59:25 PM »

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I'd like to see doc try lester hudson some when neither rondo or house are productive, which is often of late.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 01:55:18 PM »

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Ray and Perk are basically the only ones looking to me like they’re getting challenged. That might explain why the practices could be getting sloppy.

That's a really good point, A lineup of: Hudson,TA,Daniels,Williams,Wallace
could probably create some more challenging looks on the offensive end.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2009, 05:24:26 PM »

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Ray and Perk are basically the only ones looking to me like they’re getting challenged. That might explain why the practices could be getting sloppy.

That's a really good point, A lineup of: Hudson,TA,Daniels,Williams,Wallace
could probably create some more challenging looks on the offensive end.

TP. That's along the lines of what I was thinking. At least Rondo is getting some extra practice time with Lester so that can only help.
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Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 05:26:55 PM »

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Ray and Perk are basically the only ones looking to me like they’re getting challenged. That might explain why the practices could be getting sloppy.

That's a really good point, A lineup of: Hudson,TA,Daniels,Williams,Wallace
could probably create some more challenging looks on the offensive end.

TP. That's along the lines of what I was thinking. At least Rondo is getting some extra practice time with Lester so that can only help.

Thats another reason why i was shocked to see Walker go up to Portland. I'll i've heard is good things about his practice intensity... although i think that once TA comes back JR will be going down as well.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2009, 05:38:17 PM »

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"See, Lester, what you have to do is turn and SWIPE. Always try and get behind the guy with the ball and tip it away. Don't worry if the big guys get a foul who gives a crap about them, just SWIPE. And Lester, stand straight up, NEVER bend your knees. You get tired that way, ok?"

 
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2009, 06:16:38 PM »

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"See, Lester, what you have to do is turn and SWIPE. Always try and get behind the guy with the ball and tip it away. Don't worry if the big guys get a foul who gives a crap about them, just SWIPE. And Lester, stand straight up, NEVER bend your knees. You get tired that way, ok?"

 

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Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2009, 07:09:16 PM »

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Sorry, but if Rondo is putting extra work in I'd much rather have him with an assistant or something shooting jumpers or free throws. He could also do some extra film work and maybe the light bulb will pop on watching himself get blown past by every pg in the league. Obviously we have seen reports of him working on shooting, but he obviously hasn't really made much progress since he has come in the league. I guarantee you that if he would shoot 500+ free throws a day his % will increase. That's nice and all him helping out a teammate, but it really doesn't make him or this team better. A guy getting 1-2 minutes of garbage time all year isn't going to make a difference.

He's putting in other work, as well:

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With Orlando in town again tonight for the first time since that playoff series, Rondo sat on the bench watching film of his free throws with Celtics assistant coach Armond Hill more than 3 1/2 hours before gametime. The pair then took to the court to practice Rondo's form. "That's too much," Rondo said of his grip on the ball, his right hand cocked out awkwardly to his right side. "Just square it up," said Hill, a patient teacher. "I'm straight!" Rondo shouted back, taking another free throw. "My elbow is straight." "You think its straight," said Hill. "I can show you right on film, right now." How concerning is Rondo's current free-throw percentage (currently at 25 percent)? Celtics GM Danny Ainge came out to check on the lesson, giving Hill and Rondo a putting analogy from golf. Hill, who played eight seasons in the NBA, took the time to put his hands on Rondo's elbow to shift it into the right position.

Link.

I'm frustrated by a lot of Rondo's game early this season, too, but I don't think there's any need to attack him when he's doing positive things.  I don't see how the fact that he's spending extra time working both before and after practice is anything but a good thing.

I'm not attacking him at all, rather feeling like there are much better uses of his time. He is so awful at those skills and any extra work he can get on would make more sense than working with a teammate. Thib, or Doc, or even House would be a much better person to work with him. House could at least show him how to get more out of your results due to a high amount of effort at it. He does a great job most of the time staying in front of his guy due to sheer effort.

Once again, Rondo improving in these areas can be the difference in a championship this season. Hudson improving means he might stay in the league. I'm really don't care at this point whether he does or not, so I vote for more free throws and more jumpers and improving his own weak defense before trying to pass on things to others.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2009, 07:29:14 PM »

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"See, Lester, what you have to do is turn and SWIPE. Always try and get behind the guy with the ball and tip it away. Don't worry if the big guys get a foul who gives a crap about them, just SWIPE. And Lester, stand straight up, NEVER bend your knees. You get tired that way, ok?"

 

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You're cute when you try to be condescending. Too bad that's exactly what Rondo's been doing all year.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: Rondo helping Hudson Improve Defense
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2009, 08:36:39 PM »

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Sorry, but if Rondo is putting extra work in I'd much rather have him with an assistant or something shooting jumpers or free throws. He could also do some extra film work and maybe the light bulb will pop on watching himself get blown past by every pg in the league. Obviously we have seen reports of him working on shooting, but he obviously hasn't really made much progress since he has come in the league. I guarantee you that if he would shoot 500+ free throws a day his % will increase. That's nice and all him helping out a teammate, but it really doesn't make him or this team better. A guy getting 1-2 minutes of garbage time all year isn't going to make a difference.

He's putting in other work, as well:

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With Orlando in town again tonight for the first time since that playoff series, Rondo sat on the bench watching film of his free throws with Celtics assistant coach Armond Hill more than 3 1/2 hours before gametime. The pair then took to the court to practice Rondo's form. "That's too much," Rondo said of his grip on the ball, his right hand cocked out awkwardly to his right side. "Just square it up," said Hill, a patient teacher. "I'm straight!" Rondo shouted back, taking another free throw. "My elbow is straight." "You think its straight," said Hill. "I can show you right on film, right now." How concerning is Rondo's current free-throw percentage (currently at 25 percent)? Celtics GM Danny Ainge came out to check on the lesson, giving Hill and Rondo a putting analogy from golf. Hill, who played eight seasons in the NBA, took the time to put his hands on Rondo's elbow to shift it into the right position.

Link.

I'm frustrated by a lot of Rondo's game early this season, too, but I don't think there's any need to attack him when he's doing positive things.  I don't see how the fact that he's spending extra time working both before and after practice is anything but a good thing.

I'm not attacking him at all, rather feeling like there are much better uses of his time. He is so awful at those skills and any extra work he can get on would make more sense than working with a teammate. Thib, or Doc, or even House would be a much better person to work with him. House could at least show him how to get more out of your results due to a high amount of effort at it. He does a great job most of the time staying in front of his guy due to sheer effort.

Once again, Rondo improving in these areas can be the difference in a championship this season. Hudson improving means he might stay in the league. I'm really don't care at this point whether he does or not, so I vote for more free throws and more jumpers and improving his own weak defense before trying to pass on things to others.

  First of all, if he's working with Hudson on Hudson's defense, presumably he's playing offense against Hudson. They work on their games together. Secondly, before you anoint Eddie a great defender, remember that his defense was one of the big reasons he didn't play much in the playoffs next year, when Doc was using him sparingly and Ray and Rajon both averaged more than 40 minutes a game.