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Video of KG jump ball?
« on: November 05, 2009, 10:19:30 AM »

Offline MNExpat

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Does anyone have a link to video of the jump ball call between Brewer and Garnett at the end of last night's game?  The only one I could find was on NBA.com, but it was a bad angle and there was no close-up replay. 

I'm curious to see if the Wolves' griping about a non-call is somewhat justified or just sour grapes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 10:20:23 AM »

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don't have the vid, but here's a photo

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 10:24:56 AM »

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That photo is at then end of the play.  By that time, the ball had been held by KG and eventually forced out of Brewer's hands.  You can see the body spacing by KG all the way through the play.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 10:49:15 AM »

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They've been running it on the Sportscenter highlights.  Hannah Storm says it was all ball, I'll believe her. 


Personally I thought it was a good call but needless to say there is a little bias.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 10:58:51 AM »

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It wasn't sour grapes.  If it'd been exactly the same play with Brewer as the defender a foul would have absolutely been called.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 11:26:30 AM »

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Quote from: Finkelskyhook on November 05, 2009, 10:58:51 AM
It wasn't sour grapes.  If it'd been exactly the same play with Brewer as the defender a foul would have absolutely been called.

Unfortunately, I feel this is 100% true.
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Re: Video of KG jump ball?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 11:26:51 AM »

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It looked good to me when I saw it.  But I'm a little suspicious because KG looked guilty as hell immediately after the whistle (holding his hands up and backing away).  He's already starting to do it in Jeff's picture.  Maybe he pushed him with the right hand or something, but to me the left hand at least was all ball.

EDIT:  It looks a lot cleaner on twinbree's video below (TP for providing), and KG didn't react as guiltily as I remember; he might've gotten some forearm with the left hand but that was a pretty clean play.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 11:31:04 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 11:36:31 AM »

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It looked clean live to me, but i used my green tinted glasses, The only thing i see them calling a foul was because of the way that brewer fell sideways but KG would get the benefit of the doubt in that match up anyway. I thought it was completely clean even on the replays.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 12:02:55 PM »

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Quote from: fairweatherfan on November 05, 2009, 11:26:51 AM
It looked good to me when I saw it.  But I'm a little suspicious because KG looked guilty as hell immediately after the whistle (holding his hands up and backing away).  He's already starting to do it in Jeff's picture.  Maybe he pushed him with the right hand or something, but to me the left hand at least was all ball.

EDIT:  It looks a lot cleaner on twinbree's video below (TP for providing), and KG didn't react as guiltily as I remember; he might've gotten some forearm with the left hand but that was a pretty clean play.

Actually, it kind of looks like he put his hands up because he had yet to realize there was a whistle and he was still trying to defend Brewer. He's looking at Brewer with his hands straight up, notices the whistle and puts two thumbs up to help the refs make the right call.

It did look like KG got all ball for a second or so, then Corey Brewer (Being the scronny kid he is) got the ball wrestled away, THEN KG got his arm.

Good call, imo.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 12:06:13 PM »

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From that slow mo replay he clearly hits brewers arm first then slide down it and hits the ball. It was a foul, but it was so quick i'm not surprised the ref called it that way. truly a 50/50 call.

Extremely tough call live for the ref, we defiantly got the benefit of the doubt and made out there, i'll take it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 12:49:50 PM »

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Thanks for the video, twinbree, and to everyone else for your comments.

My own sense is that the call was good, or at least not obviously wrong, but like idrinkdetergent I'm hardly unbiased.  At least we stand by full disclosure!
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 12:59:51 PM »

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I also have to say that I was not happy with DOC when he was putting in Perk for Sheed. Sheed was doing a great job on Big Al.
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"Sam Cassell was heckling on the sideline when I walked down, He looked at me and was like, ‘You're getting the ball, I know you're getting the ball!'
said Allen.

And did Cassell, a man of many words, have anything to say after that?

 "No, I told him he needed to wear a tie."
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 01:04:51 PM »

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Quote from: idrinkdetergent on November 05, 2009, 12:59:51 PM
I also have to say that I was not happy with DOC when he was putting in Perk for Sheed. Sheed was doing a great job on Big Al.
Perk was doing an awesome job in the second half, he was pushing him off his spot and contesting everything. I don't know why people are saying this.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 01:06:22 PM »

Offline idrinkdetergent

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Im not saying perk was doing bad, but i felt sheed was getting in his head more. I love perk as much as the next guy but I thought that sheeds quickness was killing Al
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"Sam Cassell was heckling on the sideline when I walked down, He looked at me and was like, ‘You're getting the ball, I know you're getting the ball!'
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 "No, I told him he needed to wear a tie."
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