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Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2009, 06:02:42 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2009, 06:37:03 PM »

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Yup 11 mil per year for a guy who cant hit a ft or a 3ptr. 65% for a pg silly. He may rebound well but his assists are bloated. I think Danny would have been better off giving Perk this contract and offering a max of 8 mil per year. Chris Paul was absolutely right when he said Rondo was lucky to play with the players we have. Bad move by Danny.

Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2009, 06:56:07 PM »

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I don't get the downside to this.  Jason Kidd was never a good shooter, and only became even an OK shooter later in his career.  And to me, that whole argument is really beside the point.

Here's what important: we know that Rondo can guide this team to a title.  We don't know that about whoever might've been his replacement had he left this summer. 

The way I see it is that Rondo is undoubtedly worth his contract for the first two years because he'll bring stability to the waning years of the Big Three and allow them to live up to their full potential. 

After that, maybe there is some risk.  But I still think that at worst there's a 50/50 chance he lives up to the deal.  And even if he doesn't, I couldn't care less if he helps them win a couple more titles. 

Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #93 on: November 02, 2009, 07:58:52 PM »

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Good news. I'm glad they worked something out so we can focus on the season. Rajon is young, talented and a great fit for this team. I hope he continues to improve as a player and has a wonderful ring-filled tenure in Boston.
Hopefully Perk gets a similar long-term extension agreeable to both sides next year so I can see my two favorite young Celtics in green for a long time.
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Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2009, 08:41:04 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Mid level, eh? What 10 PGs are better than him? (on offense AND defense)

Rondo is so good, that the Lakers have to put Kobe on him to slow him down. The Lakers have to re-design their defense to stop him.

Rondo is not mid-level guard.

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« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2009, 08:57:17 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Mid level, eh? What 10 PGs are better than him? (on offense AND defense)

Rondo is so good, that the Lakers have to put Kobe on him to slow him down. The Lakers have to re-design their defense to stop him.

Rondo is not mid-level guard.

Haha.. Upper mid-level, maybe? No, I agree though. He's top class. Despite his flaws when Rondo's in the zone he's just awe-inspiring. I've never seen anyone rack up 16 assists in 30 minutes, that's just incredible.

I'm interested in seeing if he'll look to shoot more now that he has his contract, though. I personally wouldn't mind him taking more shots. I mean he's only averaging like what, 3 shots in the first 4 games?

Here's something I love about Rondo.. Despite his massive ego he doesn't try to score 20 points a game. I think he'd be far more content with 20 assists. You don't see that in any players in the league, not even CP3 and Deron Williams. Rondo's got his head in the right place, and I love it. Hope he's here for his entire career.

He might be a little overpaid right now, but considering our cap status anyway, and that no one on here is actually footing that payment to Rondo it's not really an issue. It's not like he's grossly overpaid, anyway.

Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #96 on: November 02, 2009, 09:28:33 PM »

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Don't think he would have gotten this in free agency with all the players that will be up for grabs; but then again who needs the distraction. He is very good now, not mid-level as some suggest. He will clearly not be happy until he is an all-star. He is motivated. So you are getting a young all-star contender for OK money.

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« Reply #97 on: November 02, 2009, 09:40:19 PM »

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Don't think he would have gotten this in free agency with all the players that will be up for grabs; but then again who needs the distraction. He is very good now, not mid-level as some suggest. He will clearly not be happy until he is an all-star. He is motivated. So you are getting a young all-star contender for OK money.

There are a ton of teams under cap. not all of them can get lebron, wade or bosh. I am of the opinion that two out of those three players will not move AT ALL.

Why wouldn't the teams that lose out on that sweepstakes sign rondo to a ten million dollar a year contract as a backup to their failed pursuit of lebron?

Answer: they would, and maybe for more to make it more likely the Celtics would not match. This is a good deal for both sides. It pays rondo like a top five point guard, but not like a superstar.

The knicks, in particular, spring to mind as a team which i predict will NOT get lebron, and will be in the market for a secondary impact player. Rondo would have fit their up tempo style perfectly.



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Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2009, 10:32:29 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

  That was going through your mind during game 6 about 18 months ago, right? "The Lakers are being crushed by a mid-level guard!". Oh, the horror...

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« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2009, 10:46:57 PM »

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Yup 11 mil per year for a guy who cant hit a ft or a 3ptr. 65% for a pg silly. He may rebound well but his assists are bloated. I think Danny would have been better off giving Perk this contract and offering a max of 8 mil per year. Chris Paul was absolutely right when he said Rondo was lucky to play with the players we have. Bad move by Danny.


  I know, it seems crazy to pay that kind of money for someone who has issues shooting fts and can't hit the three, but the Spurs really like Parker.

  And Rondo's assist totals aren't bloated. He's one of the best passers in the league.

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« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2009, 12:07:29 AM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

  That was going through your mind during game 6 about 18 months ago, right? "The Lakers are being crushed by a mid-level guard!". Oh, the horror...

mustve been tough being owned by a mid-level guard during the most important game of the year  ;D

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« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2009, 12:22:59 AM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Oh yeah I agree. You know who's dirty? Jordan Farmar.

He's so smart with the ball, right?

So feisty.

So talented.

Man I wish I had him instead of Rondo.

You know, the player who absolutely ishes on your point guards so badly that you put Kobe on him. And then lose by 39 in the finals.

Nice jon winning last year, though. Do they give out trophies for winning against the JV?
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« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2009, 04:01:06 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Mid level, eh? What 10 PGs are better than him? (on offense AND defense)

Rondo is so good, that the Lakers have to put Kobe on him to slow him down. The Lakers have to re-design their defense to stop him.

Rondo is not mid-level guard.

You could put Aaron Brooks into Rondo's slot and get the same numbers at $3mil/ year.

Re: Rondo and Celtics Agree to Extension
« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2009, 04:04:17 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

  That was going through your mind during game 6 about 18 months ago, right? "The Lakers are being crushed by a mid-level guard!". Oh, the horror...

It was more Handicapped Pierce, Allen and Garnett than Rondo esp. w/ no Bynum. 

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« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2009, 04:08:55 PM »

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$11 Mil/year for a mid-level guard? 

Mid level, eh? What 10 PGs are better than him? (on offense AND defense)

Rondo is so good, that the Lakers have to put Kobe on him to slow him down. The Lakers have to re-design their defense to stop him.

Rondo is not mid-level guard.

You could put Aaron Brooks into Rondo's slot and get the same numbers at $3mil/ year.

Are you kidding?  Once Brooks comes up for his contract, he is going to be asking for at least $7-8 million per year...and he isn't as good as Rondo.

The fact is, Rondo got market value.  Someone would have given him as much, or probably more than he got if he hit the market next summer.    

The question the C's had to ask was whether they wanted to pay market value for a PG who may not be a true, franchise PG.  You know, kind of like the Lakers deciding to pay market value for Bynum, even though there is a good chance he is not really a franchise center.  Or Portland deciding to pay above market value for Lamarcus Aldridge, even though he clearly is NOT a franchise PF.

Basically, all of these teams, may have just locked themselves into franchise player-level contracts with young guys who may prove to be lesser players than their potential may suggest...which could leave them in a tough spot in a few years.