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Ray Allen remaining classy
« on: October 28, 2009, 01:34:11 PM »

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I like the Ray Allen quote about the BBD situation:

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Guard Ray Allen didn’t want to comment on Davis’ suspension, but said, “I support him. Whatever he needs to do, I’m going to be encouraging. I think as athletes we learn every day, on and off the floor. We’re judged by different standards. We have a life that not many lead, so you’ve got to treat that as special.”

Classy guy, especially that last sentence.

Re: Ray Allen remaining classy
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 01:43:06 PM »

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Just curious - what did you think of other teammates' comments in that same article? Do you think they weren't as classy?

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I know it wasn’t the smartest thing, but at the same time we can’t keep pounding on him about it. We’ve got to be in his corner. I’m sure Baby feels bad enough without them suspending him and taking his money. I don’t think we should cry over spilled milk. It’s happened; it’s done with. What we’ve got to do is be with Baby.

"Things happen in life. He’s going to get a lot of pressure about this. I just think his teammates and the organization needs to be more behind him.”

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“It’s just unfortunate."

“I’m not mad at Baby. Stuff happens in life. You try to stay away from those situations, but it’s part of life. I have stuff to work on, so I’m not judging Baby. I wish him the best, and hopefully he can get back quicker that we expect.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1207796&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 02:04:05 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 02:08:17 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

I guess, I think its pretty clear this would never be discussed if it were the sox or pats. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 02:11:10 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

And as the guy signing the checks, I think he is the one guy (well, along with the other owners...but the others tend to keep a lower profile) with the most reason to not be classy.  I would be more than a little peeved if I was him.

I guess, I think its pretty clear this would never be discussed if it were the sox or pats. 

Are you kidding?  John Henry, who also can be an emotional guy, would likely do the same thing. 

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 02:13:03 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

But as an owner, he has the bigger burden of a loss right? It's the same thing with what Golden State did with the Monta incident. When your entire net worth is based on your body, you shouldn't do something that would risk harming your body.

It's good the players are backing BBD. But any owner would have done the same.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 02:13:59 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

And as the guy signing the checks, I think he is the one guy (well, along with the other owners...but the others tend to keep a lower profile) with the most reason to not be classy.  I would be more than a little peeved if I was him.

I guess, I think its pretty clear this would never be discussed if it were the sox or pats. 

Are you kidding?  John Henry, who also can be an emotional guy, would likely do the same thing. 

I dunno, I just think about the Manny thing.  He fought a team employee, sure he didnt get hurt, but that came out because a teamate leaked it right? 
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 02:14:14 PM »

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Just curious - what did you think of other teammates' comments in that same article? Do you think they weren't as classy?

Perk:
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I know it wasn’t the smartest thing, but at the same time we can’t keep pounding on him about it. We’ve got to be in his corner. I’m sure Baby feels bad enough without them suspending him and taking his money. I don’t think we should cry over spilled milk. It’s happened; it’s done with. What we’ve got to do is be with Baby.

"Things happen in life. He’s going to get a lot of pressure about this. I just think his teammates and the organization needs to be more behind him.”

Rondo:
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“It’s just unfortunate."

“I’m not mad at Baby. Stuff happens in life. You try to stay away from those situations, but it’s part of life. I have stuff to work on, so I’m not judging Baby. I wish him the best, and hopefully he can get back quicker that we expect.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1207796&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

I think they are all handling it well in the way they are choosing words, but I think that guava was more concentrating on Ray's point about how fortunate they all are to even be able to live the special lives they live.  This is coming from a superstar who gets it and it's refreshing.  A little Ray love is okay.  It's not a matter of guava thinking that the other guys aren't classy themselves.  He just feels that Ray is exceptional time and time again.

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2009, 02:14:23 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

I think he's being as classy as can be.  The players know the rules.  The C's and their brass just re-upped and took a chance on BBD.  Yet he goes and gets in some 5th grade altercation ?  After Wyc gave him 6+ million ?

Stupidity at its best.

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 02:22:02 PM »

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Just curious - what did you think of other teammates' comments in that same article? Do you think they weren't as classy?

Perk:
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I know it wasn’t the smartest thing, but at the same time we can’t keep pounding on him about it. We’ve got to be in his corner. I’m sure Baby feels bad enough without them suspending him and taking his money. I don’t think we should cry over spilled milk. It’s happened; it’s done with. What we’ve got to do is be with Baby.

"Things happen in life. He’s going to get a lot of pressure about this. I just think his teammates and the organization needs to be more behind him.”

Rondo:
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“It’s just unfortunate."

“I’m not mad at Baby. Stuff happens in life. You try to stay away from those situations, but it’s part of life. I have stuff to work on, so I’m not judging Baby. I wish him the best, and hopefully he can get back quicker that we expect.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1207796&format=&page=2&listingType=celt#articleFull

I think they are all handling it well in the way they are choosing words, but I think that guava was more concentrating on Ray's point about how fortunate they all are to even be able to live the special lives they live.  This is coming from a superstar who gets it and it's refreshing.  A little Ray love is okay.  It's not a matter of guava thinking that the other guys aren't classy themselves.  He just feels that Ray is exceptional time and time again.

yeah thats how I saw it. tp

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 02:22:33 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 02:23:41 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

I think he's being as classy as can be.  The players know the rules.  The C's and their brass just re-upped and took a chance on BBD.  Yet he goes and gets in some 5th grade altercation ?  After Wyc gave him 6+ million ?

Stupidity at its best.

Why should he stay classy? He's the owner of this team, he's putting trust in his players to do the right thing, this guy is spending money on this team becuase of its position above the salary cap.

I would be VERY harsh with BBD if i were in his shoes.

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 02:31:16 PM »

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Honestly, the only person not being classy about the whole situation might be Wyc Grousbeck.

I think he's being as classy as can be.  The players know the rules.  The C's and their brass just re-upped and took a chance on BBD.  Yet he goes and gets in some 5th grade altercation ?  After Wyc gave him 6+ million ?

Stupidity at its best.

Why should he stay classy? He's the owner of this team, he's putting trust in his players to do the right thing, this guy is spending money on this team becuase of its position above the salary cap.

I would be VERY harsh with BBD if i were in his shoes.

I honestly feel the same way and I love BBD.  However, in business, it can't be about "loving" a guy.  He is your employee and if he gets a nice raise and then does something irresponsible that hurts the team and potentially costs you money...then you have to deal with it on a professional level.  This is not a personal thing with Wyc...it's business.

Baby's teammates can be more supportive in the public eye because they are not paying him.  If my co-worker gets disciplined for coming in drunk, then I can be supportive, but should I expect our employers to just give them a pass?  No.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 02:31:19 PM »

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I'm not saying Grousbeck is unclassy for suspending him or being angry. He has every right to be so and do so. But since the story has come out, he has made comments about his nickname

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"I am not going to call him Big Baby anymore.  He is Glen and he needs to act like Glen and we will decide what to do once we talk to him" Grousbeck said
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made comments about suspension even BEFORE having all the facts in front of him

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"We are talking with his representatives and will likely move to suspend him for a period of time once we have all the facts in front of us," Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck said.
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and supposedly has gone on a two day warpath over the situation

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“Wyc has been on the warpath for two days over this,” a league source told Yahoo! Sports. “They want to get money back from him.”

and then he is going public with this whole 'unauthorized activity" thing as a way to suspend him when Shawn Bridgewater, the guy that he got into the fight with, admitted to police that he started the fight and threw the first punch and Davis has said he was defending himself.

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“He’s going to have to chip in for this situation he caused,” said Celtics managing partner Wyc Grousbeck. “This was an unauthorized activity resulting in the team losing his services, and he’s going to have to pay for that. There are going to be consequences for that.

So if a guy throws a punch at Davis or hits his giorlfriend, Davis is supposed to call into the team and get authorization to defend himself or his loved ones? Sorry, I understand the guy is miffed over what happened and Davis probably should learn that being out after 1 o'clock in the morning is usually going to lead to more bad things happening than good and that when tempers flair he has to settle down the situation not escalate it, but I think Grousbeck being as openly peaved as he is and for a lot of the time making comments without having all the facts in front of him, is a bit unclassy for a team owner.

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 03:00:46 PM »

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Davis put himself in this position via his own poor judgement. What was he doing at 4am in an SUV with a guy of questionable character.
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