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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2009, 03:08:44 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

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“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2009, 03:10:13 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

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“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Why should the players be sorting out what BBD's role is?  This is a matter for the coaching staff, primarily; I doubt BBD is upset because Rasheed and KG haven't told him what his role will be.

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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2009, 03:25:15 PM »

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They really can't tell him much other where he stands in the depth chart. I'm pretty sure he knows what his role is once he's on the floor, but minutes wise, the coaching staff probably don't know how to break it down specifically yet. His play, and that of those above him in the depth chart will dictate that.

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2009, 03:30:08 PM »

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What I don't believe most of you are not realizing is that these are MY THOUGHTS! which last I checked this was a forum to voice our thoughts and opinions. I didn't misquote or add anything to what he said. I posted what I felt like posting. If I left something out it was because I wanted to leave it out. I read the article, I posted on how I(ME)felt about it. I didn't ask anyone to "follow me" or "go with what I say" or "hey let's dump on Baby"...I have a RIGHT to feel how I(ME) choose to. Anti-Baby? Be serious. I wasn't even anti-POB last year and he sucked. If he's on my team, then It's all good. Anyone that dons the Green and White I am pulling for. I'm not a fair weathered fan. I rocked the Celtics nerf basketball set when I was 5 yrs wearing green and white wristbands while watching Jo-Jo White and Charlie Scott bring the ball up court. I can care less who thinks I have some vendetta against Baby or any Celtic for that matter. I'm going to tell it how I(ME) see it. Again, how I read into comments and how you read into comments may not match up, but I(ME) have a feeling he's gonna be a problem this year.
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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2009, 03:32:46 PM »

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What I don't believe most of you are not realizing is that these are MY THOUGHTS! which last I checked this was a forum to voice our thoughts and opinions. I didn't misquote or add anything to what he said. I posted what I felt like posting. If I left something out it was because I wanted to leave it out. I read the article, I posted on how I(ME)felt about it. I didn't ask anyone to "follow me" or "go with what I say" or "hey let's dump on Baby"...I have a RIGHT to feel how I(ME) choose to. Anti-Baby? Be serious. I wasn't even anti-POB last year and he sucked. If he's on my team, then It's all good. Anyone that dons the Green and White I am pulling for. I'm not a fair weathered fan. I've rocked the Celtics nerf basketball set when I was 5 while watching Jo-Jo White and Charlie Scott bring the ball up court. I can care less who thinks I have some vendetta against Baby. Again, how I read into comments and how you read into comments may not match up, but I(ME) have a feeling he's gonna be a problem this year.

Just the same people have the right to disagree with your assessment and dispute it.

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2009, 03:35:05 PM »

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What I don't believe most of you are not realizing is that these are MY THOUGHTS! which last I checked this was a forum to voice our thoughts and opinions. I didn't misquote or add anything to what he said. I posted what I felt like posting. If I left something out it was because I wanted to leave it out. I read the article, I posted on how I(ME)felt about it. I didn't ask anyone to "follow me" or "go with what I say" or "hey let's dump on Baby"...I have a RIGHT to feel how I(ME) choose to. Anti-Baby? Be serious. I wasn't even anti-POB last year and he sucked. If he's on my team, then It's all good. Anyone that dons the Green and White I am pulling for. I'm not a fair weathered fan. I've rocked the Celtics nerf basketball set when I was 5 while watching Jo-Jo White and Charlie Scott bring the ball up court. I can care less who thinks I have some vendetta against Baby. Again, how I read into comments and how you read into comments may not match up, but I(ME) have a feeling he's gonna be a problem this year.

Just the same people have the right to disagree with your assessment and dispute it.

Who did I call wrong in THEIR assessment of what I(ME) felt?  Enlighten me. Paste that here when you find it.
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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2009, 03:35:47 PM »

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Let's simmer down, please.  Things are getting a little too combative.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2009, 03:41:59 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

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“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Why should the players be sorting out what BBD's role is?  This is a matter for the coaching staff, primarily; I doubt BBD is upset because Rasheed and KG haven't told him what his role will be.

  I was kidding. But look at what he said. He was asked about how to accept a smaller role on the team and said that he doesn't know how to accept it yet, and nobody (that's gone through that) has talked to him about how to make that adjustment. Seems innocuous.

  Oddly enough, are there any players on the team that COULD tell him how to do it? Wallace and Daniels are going through it with him. Cassell could have, or maybe Posey. Lue (coach) probably could.

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2009, 03:46:59 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

Quote
“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Why should the players be sorting out what BBD's role is?  This is a matter for the coaching staff, primarily; I doubt BBD is upset because Rasheed and KG haven't told him what his role will be.

  I was kidding. But look at what he said. He was asked about how to accept a smaller role on the team and said that he doesn't know how to accept it yet, and nobody (that's gone through that) has talked to him about how to make that adjustment. Seems innocuous.

  Oddly enough, are there any players on the team that COULD tell him how to do it? Wallace and Daniels are going through it with him. Cassell could have, or maybe Posey. Lue (coach) probably could.

It's a bit hard to get the correct context of the quote. Some see it as "I don't know how to accept a smaller role because no one has explained to me how to accept a smaller role" and some see it as "No one has told me what my smaller role actually is, so I don't know how to deal with it yet, process it, etc."

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2009, 03:50:36 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

Quote
“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Why should the players be sorting out what BBD's role is?  This is a matter for the coaching staff, primarily; I doubt BBD is upset because Rasheed and KG haven't told him what his role will be.

  I was kidding. But look at what he said. He was asked about how to accept a smaller role on the team and said that he doesn't know how to accept it yet, and nobody (that's gone through that) has talked to him about how to make that adjustment. Seems innocuous.

  Oddly enough, are there any players on the team that COULD tell him how to do it? Wallace and Daniels are going through it with him. Cassell could have, or maybe Posey. Lue (coach) probably could.

It's a bit hard to get the correct context of the quote. Some see it as "I don't know how to accept a smaller role because no one has explained to me how to accept a smaller role" and some see it as "No one has told me what my smaller role actually is, so I don't know how to deal with it yet, process it, etc."

True.  I think it's the "Nobody tells me nothing." line that really stands out to me.  That doesn't sound like a player who is happy with the status quo as it exists.

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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2009, 03:54:11 PM »

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I still don't understand why the celtics offered Davis any more than the qualifying offer if davis wasn't getting offers from other teams.  Why are we paying him more than we have to?

Not getting offers, and not getting the offers he wanted are not the same thing. Plus we got him for 2 years... avoiding doing this dance once again next year.

We could have signed both powe and baby for the price we payed for baby.  that would be sweet.

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« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2009, 03:56:18 PM »

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The quote I was probably most concerned with was this one:

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“I don’t know how to accept that yet,” he said. “I don’t know how to do it yet. It’s not as if we’ve gone over it. Nobody tells me nothing.”

Now, BBD should have understood what his role would be, since he signed after Rasheed did.  Still, if he wants to understand his role, it probably makes sense for somebody from the coaching staff to step in and do so shortly.  It sounds like BBD is a little upset, which can easily turn into resentment and anger.

  Which, as we now know, leads to player-only meetings on planes and silent bus rides...

Why should the players be sorting out what BBD's role is?  This is a matter for the coaching staff, primarily; I doubt BBD is upset because Rasheed and KG haven't told him what his role will be.

  I was kidding. But look at what he said. He was asked about how to accept a smaller role on the team and said that he doesn't know how to accept it yet, and nobody (that's gone through that) has talked to him about how to make that adjustment. Seems innocuous.

  Oddly enough, are there any players on the team that COULD tell him how to do it? Wallace and Daniels are going through it with him. Cassell could have, or maybe Posey. Lue (coach) probably could.

It's a bit hard to get the correct context of the quote. Some see it as "I don't know how to accept a smaller role because no one has explained to me how to accept a smaller role" and some see it as "No one has told me what my smaller role actually is, so I don't know how to deal with it yet, process it, etc."

True.  I think it's the "Nobody tells me nothing." line that really stands out to me.  That doesn't sound like a player who is happy with the status quo as it exists.

The more I read that though, the more I wish it was on video though.  I think there is a good chance that it was actually said in jest.  Because the way I think we are reading it right now, it really comes across as incredibly bitter, and he would likely have had to have been in a pretty terrible mood to actually say that to the press.

Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2009, 03:56:37 PM »

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What I don't believe most of you are not realizing is that these are MY THOUGHTS! which last I checked this was a forum to voice our thoughts and opinions. I didn't misquote or add anything to what he said. I posted what I felt like posting. If I left something out it was because I wanted to leave it out. I read the article, I posted on how I(ME)felt about it. I didn't ask anyone to "follow me" or "go with what I say" or "hey let's dump on Baby"...I have a RIGHT to feel how I(ME) choose to. Anti-Baby? Be serious. I wasn't even anti-POB last year and he sucked. If he's on my team, then It's all good. Anyone that dons the Green and White I am pulling for. I'm not a fair weathered fan. I rocked the Celtics nerf basketball set when I was 5 yrs wearing green and white wristbands while watching Jo-Jo White and Charlie Scott bring the ball up court. I can care less who thinks I have some vendetta against Baby or any Celtic for that matter. I'm going to tell it how I(ME) see it. Again, how I read into comments and how you read into comments may not match up, but I(ME) have a feeling he's gonna be a problem this year.

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Re: Baby = Problem....
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2009, 03:57:59 PM »

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I still don't understand why the celtics offered Davis any more than the qualifying offer if davis wasn't getting offers from other teams.  Why are we paying him more than we have to?

Not getting offers, and not getting the offers he wanted are not the same thing. Plus we got him for 2 years... avoiding doing this dance once again next year.

We could have signed both powe and baby for the price we payed for baby.  that would be sweet.

The C's didn't want a broken down powe.  Is this June?
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« Reply #74 on: October 23, 2009, 03:59:05 PM »

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I still don't understand why the celtics offered Davis any more than the qualifying offer if davis wasn't getting offers from other teams.  Why are we paying him more than we have to?

Because by signing him to the deal they did, they have cost certainty for next year, which is valuable.  It also keeps the door open for a trade of him this season.  If he signed for the QO, he would have had veto power on any trade, since it would require him losing his bird rights.