Giddens

[CoachCowens]

I'm his fan and I watch very much of him in college, what I can tell you for him is that he can't show what he can do here, at least not now, because of the situation right now. His game is based on his confidence, and everyone of you that played the game at some point know that if you don't play you have not cofidence in you, and your game don't work out. I know it for long time, now you can see it by yourself, when you play him 2,3 to 7-8 minutes he can't do much, just because he can't get his mind right and get his game on, when you play him let's say 20 minutes or more like tonight 33, well you see what's the deal right, the boy has game in him, but he is not at the right place to show it up, because they can't gave him this kind of minutes he need

Meanwhile, for every game against supposedly tonight's, Hudson is able to do well in limited minutes.

I dunno, Giddens did well tonight, I'll give him that, but I feel like you're just making excuses.

Hudson didn't do much tonight so that kills that theory

[CoachCowens]

Has Doc commented on this game? I'm curious about his take... not on JR solely, but on the whole team since most role players got extensive playing time with different types of combinations.

Yes, just a quick, I thought JR played well tonight comment.

[RAcker]

I have bashed JR in the past because I feel like his IQ for the game is just not up to par.  However, I'll admit when I've noticed progress and tonight there was definitely progress.

JR didn't rush things as much, but he still doesn't seem to be playing by feel on offense yet.  However, on the defensive end he is showing signs of being able to rotate correctly most of the time and he proved tonight that he can definitely rebound at his position. 

Let's hope the defensive stuff continues to get better each game and that his feel for NBA offensive flow and decision making starts to develop at some point.  If the offensive stuff never comes around...at worst he's Tony Allen.

[Change]

Doc Rivers finally saw the light. Give the JR some minutes. He isn't the next Paul Pierce or Ray Allen, but the guy can play. Give him a role even if its limited, and lets see what he can do.  He hustles, rebounds, and defends. What more do you want Doc Rivers?

[the_Bird]

I don't think I'd say Doc finally saw the light; listening to the postgame interview last night, it sounds like GIDDENS finally saw the light.  Doc sounded pleased with JR's hustle and D, but reading between the lines it really sounded like JR's been trying to be too much of a scorer and not focusing enough on the specific role that the coaches have asked him to play. 

[Bankshot]

Time management
J.R. Giddens had 7 points and 13 rebounds in 33 minutes, his most playing time since joining the Celtics last season.

“I thought J.R. was unbelievable with his energy,’’ Rivers said. “He didn’t score a lot but, defensively, and rebounds, and he just kept a lot of things alive.

“That’s his role on this team. He’s not going to be a scorer. But he can be a defender. And if wants to buy into that role there can be minutes for him.’’

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2009/10/14/rondo_not_guarded_during_celtics_exhibition_win/

Doc doesn't seem to think he has too much energy. If you're looking for a star, he's not it, but he can be a perfect role player for this team.  Just someone who comes in, plays defense, rebounds and moves the ball.  Very unselfish player, that's why I think he'd be a good fit for this team as a role player.

And those who said he has a low BBIQ, I haven't seen anything to suggest such a thing.  He really hasn't played enough before last night for anyone to come to that conclusion, imo.  To me, he seems to have decent basketball smarts.  I think he can take Tony's spot.

[clover]

Doc has commented on his needing to get smarter as a player, which just cements it for me: he's our new TA.  (And yes, I know our old TA is still here.)

[Chris]

Doc has commented on his needing to get smarter as a player, which just cements it for me: he's our new TA.  (And yes, I know our old TA is still here.)

Yeah, unfortunately, this is the impression I got from him too. 

He had a ton of energy, and really hustled, and showed off his athleticism, but ultimately, his activity level's net positive affect on the team was much lower than I felt it should have been.  That is the same thing that happens with Allen.  He will do some loud things, make some nice plays, score some points...but when it is all said and done, he just doesn't help the team much.

[Kwhit10]

He really hustled last night which I loved.  He crashed the boards, kept balls alive and played a nice supporting role.  When he took his shots he had some nice moves.  However, there were some times where he looked a little lost on defense, but the hustle and effort was there.

[moiso]

He's always been an awesome rebounder and he showed that last night.  One thing that he seems unable to do is get to the rim.  The weakest aspect of his game is Tony Allen's strongest aspect- blowing by people, attacking the rim and getting to the line.  If he can't get to the rim, isn't his ceiling Kedrick Brown with some rebounding ability?

[Chief]

His jumpshot is very wierd. Kind of has a Benard King release.

[tcelt]

this is what i keep saying that jr will be a better player than walker everyone is in love with walker because of his dunks but jr will do all the little things like rebound play defense  give an asist and block a shot  just remember we chose kedrick brown over joe johnson just for the same reason some people like walker aka justin

[Chris]

this is what i keep saying that jr will be a better player than walker everyone is in love with walker because of his dunks but jr will do all the little things like rebound play defense  give an asist and block a shot  just remember we chose kedrick brown over joe johnson just for the same reason some people like walker aka justin

I still think Walker will be the better player, because he just seems to be much more in control.

With that said, I don't know if either of them are legit NBA players.  I have hope for Walker, and still a little for Giddens, but neither has shown the entire package yet.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Doc has commented on his needing to get smarter as a player, which just cements it for me: he's our new TA.  (And yes, I know our old TA is still here.)

Yeah, unfortunately, this is the impression I got from him too. 

He had a ton of energy, and really hustled, and showed off his athleticism, but ultimately, his activity level's net positive affect on the team was much lower than I felt it should have been.  That is the same thing that happens with Allen.  He will do some loud things, make some nice plays, score some points...but when it is all said and done, he just doesn't help the team much.

Really not the same thing. Allen's impact is with his hands on the ball. Giddens is rarely touching the ball. You surround him with people with talent and they'll take advantage of the little things he does well.

The team limited the Nets to 28 total points in the 2nd half, 11 in the 4th...  I think there was plenty of impact.

[Chris]

Doc has commented on his needing to get smarter as a player, which just cements it for me: he's our new TA.  (And yes, I know our old TA is still here.)

Yeah, unfortunately, this is the impression I got from him too. 

He had a ton of energy, and really hustled, and showed off his athleticism, but ultimately, his activity level's net positive affect on the team was much lower than I felt it should have been.  That is the same thing that happens with Allen.  He will do some loud things, make some nice plays, score some points...but when it is all said and done, he just doesn't help the team much.

Really not the same thing. Allen's impact is with his hands on the ball. Giddens is rarely touching the ball. You surround him with people with talent and they'll take advantage of the little things he does well.

The team limited the Nets to 28 total points in the 2nd half, 11 in the 4th...  I think there was plenty of impact.

Well, you are right that they are different.  But I meant they have a similar way of not helping the team as much as they appear to in flashes.

I think Giddens still has a lot to learn about positioning, and how to play basketball in general.  Right now, he is an active player, but incredibly innefficient.