If Dwest is released by the Cavs, do we go try and sign him?

[wdleehi]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

[MBz]

Guys like Delonte and Ryan Gomes were asked to play bigger roles then they were capable of doing.  They had to be starters when in reality they shouldn't have been starting.  If you can bring a guy of Delontes caliber in to be a bench guy you do it no question.

[Edgar]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

[Roy Hobbs]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

[Edgar]

Guys like Delonte and Ryan Gomes were asked to play bigger roles then they were capable of doing.  They had to be starters when in reality they shouldn't have been starting.  If you can bring a guy of Delontes caliber in to be a bench guy you do it no question.

Even Al Jeff was  asked to play a bigger role

P.s. delonte played a great role in Clevelan and they ask him the same we ask here
just to point of course with better company by the time.

[Edgar]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

Interesting retoricall question

Would the celtics become champs with GG over Scal in banner 17

[xmuscularghandix]

I DWest gets released and we don't get him its RIDICULOUS.

[Roy Hobbs]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

Interesting retoricall question

Would the celtics become champs with GG over Scal in banner 17

I think so.  Scal didn't contribute much in the playoffs.  Gerald would have probably sulked at the end of the bench, but once the playoffs got going, I don't thin it would have mattered.

[RAcker]

Shotgun in a guitar case? That's pretty sweet. Sign him.

I was going to say that he would add yet another "shooter".  Oooooooooh.   

[bucknersrevenge]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

what makes dwest any better than tony allen anyway? sorry, you get arrested for gun possession, you're stupid. that's pretty much it. for reasons bankshot and a couple of others gave and more i don't want him. he was a poor defender when he was here, had no left hand. but he hustled to make up for mistakes he made so i guess he's awesome then. now he's bi-polar too. thanks but no thanks. that kid's a ticking timebomb right now. if i was danny i'd avoid him like the plague. there are certainly just as talented(if not moreso), more mentally stable backup pgs that have been available for less money.

[Roy Hobbs]

what makes dwest any better than tony allen anyway? sorry, you get arrested for gun possession, you're stupid. that's pretty much it. for reasons bankshot and a couple of others gave and more i don't want him. he was a poor defender when he was here, had no left hand. but he hustled to make up for mistakes he made so i guess he's awesome then. now he's bi-polar too. thanks but no thanks. that kid's a ticking timebomb right now. if i was danny i'd avoid him like the plague. there are certainly just as talented(if not moreso), more mentally stable backup pgs that have been available for less money.

Both are stupid off the court.  Tony is stupid *on* the court.

Delonte was a starter on a team that won 66 games.  Tony was a guy who was sitting out playoff games in the Celts' title run.

On the court, the two biggest differences:  1) Delonte is an excellent shooter, and Tony is legitimately terrible; and 2) Tony averages twice as many turnovers as Delonte.

[billysan]

what makes dwest any better than tony allen anyway? sorry, you get arrested for gun possession, you're stupid. that's pretty much it. for reasons bankshot and a couple of others gave and more i don't want him. he was a poor defender when he was here, had no left hand. but he hustled to make up for mistakes he made so i guess he's awesome then. now he's bi-polar too. thanks but no thanks. that kid's a ticking timebomb right now. if i was danny i'd avoid him like the plague. there are certainly just as talented(if not moreso), more mentally stable backup pgs that have been available for less money.

Both are stupid off the court.  Tony is stupid *on* the court.

Delonte was a starter on a team that won 66 games.  Tony was a guy who was sitting out playoff games in the Celts' title run.

On the court, the two biggest differences:  1) Delonte is an excellent shooter, and Tony is legitimately terrible; and 2) Tony averages twice as many turnovers as Delonte.

Plus 3) Delonte West has the coolest tatoo's.


If Delonte has a substance abuse problem, he needs help. I dont think you can chalk this up to bad judgement or immaturity like some other guys we have dealt with. I believe Delonte is reclaimmable, admittedly that is just a gut feeling. The Celtics may be a 'safe' environment for him. If we can help him recover and he contributes off our bench, the rewards would be huge for us and him.

That said, Cleveland will not dump him too quickly. They need him.

[jackson_34]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

Interesting retoricall question

Would the celtics become champs with GG over Scal in banner 17

I think so.  Scal didn't contribute much in the playoffs.  Gerald would have probably sulked at the end of the bench, but once the playoffs got going, I don't thin it would have mattered.

Although you could make the argument that if not for Scal pulling back Pierce from Atlana's bench after he copped an earful from Horford, we may have seen Pierce suspended for a game or two, and may not have have made it out of the first round! I don't see G$ pulling Pierce back....

[xmuscularghandix]

no way

I find it amusing how almost every player from the pre-Big 3 era who is no longer on the team is consistently maligned and underrated on this blog; sure, we have our "Bring Back Toine" posts and our "Sign Gerald Green" posts, but overall I can't help noticing the eagerness of people to just jump all over any role player who played in green before 2008 - most of them were never great, but they aren't deserving of the categorical revulsion they seem to get from the majority of the people here. 

Delonte West is not a great player, but he's not bad either, and it's ridiculous to say that you wouldn't want him on this team as a backup if another team released him and all he wanted was the minimum.

Of course, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so it's kind of a moot point in any case. 

Lol, this is just coming from me and me only: I am thinking the reason why some smart fans may not be interested in bringing back former Celtics from the "pre big 3" era is because they stunk up the TD Banknorth Garden. Let me ask you: Why does it make sense in your mind to bring back players that were part of losing teams and lean years?

So when do the Celtics waive Pierce, Rondo and Perk?

and Scal and Tony Allen     

Hmm...  maybe there's something to this "certain players are born losers" theory afterall.

Interesting retoricall question

Would the celtics become champs with GG over Scal in banner 17

I think so.  Scal didn't contribute much in the playoffs.  Gerald would have probably sulked at the end of the bench, but once the playoffs got going, I don't thin it would have mattered.

Although you could make the argument that if not for Scal pulling back Pierce from Atlana's bench after he copped an earful from Horford, we may have seen Pierce suspended for a game or two, and may not have have made it out of the first round! I don't see G$ pulling Pierce back....

true point, Gerald probably would have ran out with him and they both would have got suspended.

[the_Bird]

what makes dwest any better than tony allen anyway? sorry, you get arrested for gun possession, you're stupid. that's pretty much it. for reasons bankshot and a couple of others gave and more i don't want him. he was a poor defender when he was here, had no left hand. but he hustled to make up for mistakes he made so i guess he's awesome then. now he's bi-polar too. thanks but no thanks. that kid's a ticking timebomb right now. if i was danny i'd avoid him like the plague. there are certainly just as talented(if not moreso), more mentally stable backup pgs that have been available for less money.

Both are stupid off the court.  Tony is stupid *on* the court.

Delonte was a starter on a team that won 66 games.  Tony was a guy who was sitting out playoff games in the Celts' title run.

On the court, the two biggest differences:  1) Delonte is an excellent shooter, and Tony is legitimately terrible; and 2) Tony averages twice as many turnovers as Delonte.

Plus 3) Delonte West has the coolest tatoo's.


If Delonte has a substance abuse problem, he needs help. I dont think you can chalk this up to bad judgement or immaturity like some other guys we have dealt with. I believe Delonte is reclaimmable, admittedly that is just a gut feeling. The Celtics may be a 'safe' environment for him. If we can help him recover and he contributes off our bench, the rewards would be huge for us and him.

That said, Cleveland will not dump him too quickly. They need him.

More often than not, Delonte has been Cleveland's second-best player once the games start really counting.  I agree, it sounds like this is a serious, physological issue with Delonte, not just a kid who needs to grow up.  They'll do what they can to get him some help, but they aren't letting him go.