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(3 votes each) Who is the best coach in the NBA and why do you feel that way?

Phil Jackson
Doc Rivers
Gregg Popovich
Larry Brown
Jerry Sloan

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Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2009, 09:45:53 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Pop had Mario Ellie who won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2009, 09:49:57 PM »

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Sure, maybe Pop does more with less, but Tim Duncan is the best big man of our generation

Disagree.

Who's your guy? Shaq?

You could make a point for Shaq.

or hakeeem olajuwon

I put Akeem in the same generation as Robinson and Ewing. And he's easily the best C out of that group.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2009, 09:50:22 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches have ever had the 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2009, 09:52:47 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along. And only Shaq won one without him, and he had Pat Riley then.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2009, 09:55:10 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along.
again,i think you are missing my point.Its not a big deal.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2009, 09:56:51 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along.
again,i think you are missing my point.Its not a big deal.

Then what is your point?

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2009, 04:03:35 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along.
again,i think you are missing my point.Its not a big deal.

Then what is your point?
What teams did Phil lead to a championship without these guys(Shaq,MJ,and Kobe?...all three players would have eventually won a championship or more whether Phil were their coach or not(imo).Each time Phil won a championship,he had the league'top player(s).2000-2002Shaq was the man,each Bull's championship MJ was the best player in the league.In this past season's championship Kobe was the best player on his team.If he didn't have Kobe this past season,would the Lakers have beaten the Magic?..and would Phil have surpassed Red's amount of rings?I don't think so... without having Kobe,Shaq,and MJ ,he definitely would not have won as many rings.

As i stated in the beginning,its about the primary players,not role players in this case.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2009, 04:34:48 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along.
again,i think you are missing my point.Its not a big deal.

Then what is your point?
What teams did Phil lead to a championship without these guys(Shaq,MJ,and Kobe?...all three players would have eventually won a championship or more whether Phil were their coach or not(imo).Each time Phil won a championship,he had the league'top player(s).2000-2002Shaq was the man,each Bull's championship MJ was the best player in the league.In this past season's championship Kobe was the best player on his team.If he didn't have Kobe this past season,would the Lakers have beaten the Magic?..and would Phil have surpassed Red's amount of rings?I don't think so... without having Kobe,Shaq,and MJ ,he definitely would not have won as many rings.

As i stated in the beginning,its about the primary players,not role players in this case.


Yeah, but Pop has had the greatest player at the 4 his entire coaching career. At the same time, he's had numerous all stars and another top 50 player.

Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2009, 04:44:00 PM »

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I pick Popovich because he has gotten the most out of the least amount of talent than most coaches .Phil has always had the best player(s)in the league.Its a lot harder for him to fail than succeed.Doc is still proving to me that he is a good coach and not an average one.I give both Sloan and Brown the "Longivity Award"but i always felt when Jerry Sloan didn't take advantage of the opportunity of beating the Bulls back in the day,he slide a notch on my poll.


Pop had one of the two dominant men of this era.  Duncan and Shaq have combined for 8 titles. 


That is not having lesser talent.



Larry Brown winning with Detroit is the good coaching title.  No true superstar.  Got a team to completely buy into the system for that one season. 
Im looking at his entire roster over the years...when you get pass Duncan,Robinson and Parker,who has he had?Most of his teams consist of medicore players after a few stars.He has won with 2 legit stars,the rest are good to average until they got Ginolbli.

Phil Jackson has always had the best of the best.


BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley are " The Best of the Best"?
Obviously you missed my point or just trying to be a wiseguy...and whats wrong with BJ and luc?Were you old enough to appreciate their contribution to a championship team?

No, but saying that Phil always had "the best of the best" is just wrong. BJ Armstrong and Luc Longley were fine championship role players, but so was Avery Johnson, Mario Ellie and Steve Kerr. I wouldn't call any of these players "the best of the best" but if they are then Pop has had great pieces around his all stars as well.

In fact, both of them had Horry ,Kerr heck even Will Perdue. Mario Ellie won championships with the Rockets. Let alone guys like David Robinson, Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Sean Elliot, Avery Johnson and Stephen Jackson.
when i said best of the best,im saying MJ and Kobe primarily...what other coaches had he 2 top players in the league for that long period of time?

Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team. And I will mention that neither Michael, kobe or Shaq won a championship before Phil came along.
again,i think you are missing my point.Its not a big deal.

Then what is your point?
What teams did Phil lead to a championship without these guys(Shaq,MJ,and Kobe?...all three players would have eventually won a championship or more whether Phil were their coach or not(imo).Each time Phil won a championship,he had the league'top player(s).2000-2002Shaq was the man,each Bull's championship MJ was the best player in the league.In this past season's championship Kobe was the best player on his team.If he didn't have Kobe this past season,would the Lakers have beaten the Magic?..and would Phil have surpassed Red's amount of rings?I don't think so... without having Kobe,Shaq,and MJ ,he definitely would not have won as many rings.

As i stated in the beginning,its about the primary players,not role players in this case.

Well than, I mean i guess from what you're saying, the best coach in the NBA is Larry Brown?

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Re: Who is the best coach in the NBA?
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2009, 08:10:43 PM »

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I'd put Sloan at a close #2 behind Greg Popovich (I hate the Spurs with a passion). He got young foreign players such as Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli and turned them into stars. He took Oberto another foreign player and made him a key role player. He took an old Kurt Thomas and made him an important part of last years Spurs in the playoffs. Even after David Robinson's retirement he won a championship with Tim Duncan alone. He is a teacher and a coach, making him the best in todays NBA.
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