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Sessions getting offer sheet from the Wolves?
« on: September 04, 2009, 11:45:24 AM »

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http://my.journaltimes.com/post/woelfel-world-of-sports/bucks_sessions_on_brink_of_offer_sheet.html

The writer of the article seems to think that the bucks are not going to match it.  I on the other hand think the Bucks will match it in a second, and Kahn knows it.

This is a very well played game by both the Bucks and Wolves.

First by the Bucks.  They new they held the upper hand with Sessions.  He thought he could get the MLE on the open market, but has learned that its not so easy when you are restricted (just ask Big Baby).  There was no way he was signing with the Bucks for less than that early in the offseason.  But now, as the off-season winds down, and he still sits without an MLE offer sheet, he may be looking at one for no more than about $3.7 million (I believe that is all the Wolves have remaining to offer).  So by sitting back and waiting, the Bucks have possibly saved themselves a couple million a year on Sessions contract.

Now, it seems the common thought is that because the Bucks are close to the luxury tax, they won't match the offer.  However, they are forgetting the fact that this would only put them maybe $2 million over the luxury tax...for now.  But they have until February to get under it.  Given the number of expiring contracts they have, I feel pretty confident that if they wanted to, they could shed $2 million at the deadline.

So you ask, why is this so smart for the Wolves if the Bucks are going to match?  It is all part of their plan and spin machine.  I firmly believe that they have a very good idea that Rubio was not coming over until 2011.  In fact, they probably even preferred that.  It allows him to develop more on someone else's dime, while they got to develop Flynn some more, and it allows both of their values to grow, because they both will be able to play more, and for Rubio in particular, it allows him to play in a situation where his lack of strength will not hurt him as much, so he can get stronger before coming to the NBA.  And this doesn't even take into account the extra three and a half million in cap space they save next year to go after some of the free agents.

But of course, Minnesota could not say this to their fans.  They are already pretty unhappy with them, and they weren't going to buy the "let's wait two more years" line, even if it is better for them in the long-run.  This is where the offer to Sessions comes in.  By making this offer that they know will be matched, they are able to show the fans that they are making a concerted effort to improve the team (even if they really are in a complete rebuild mode).  This helps fans to believe that they actually want to win now, even though they clearly don't.  Now, don't get me wrong, the smart fans will see through it, but the casual fans will say "when that jerk Rubio left them high and dry, they did everything they could to bring in Sessions at least...they just didn't have the cap room.  But next year will be better." 

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That reminds me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

Truly David Kahn has a dizzying intellect.

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man how many PGs are they gonna get?
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Truly David Kahn has a dizzying intellect.

Good thing his land war is in Spain, not Asia.
"Let me call him," Floyd said.

The man shook his head. "O.J. doesn't give out his cell," he said. "He'll call you."

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Don't they already have like three point guards? They should cut Atkins so we can sign him.

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Sessions is going to play for the Wolves, according to ESPN.  Milwaukee is "not expected to match."
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Stinks for Johnny Flynn, but its good for Wolves fans. It means they don't feel like losing 60% of the games this year. They probably still will, but they're trying.


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None of Damien Wilkins, Wayne Ellington, Ryan Gomes, or Corey Brewer are starting caliber wings. That's a need they absolutely have to address.

Maybe Ellington can get to within shouting distance of being a legit starter, but Damien Wilkins is no starter.

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 03:44:16 PM »

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I don't think Milwaukee will match. If they were going to do that they would have sent out signals, either in the press or through the agents + front offices. If they were strong on this, then they could get Sessions to sign for an even smaller amount.

I think the Bucks are nuts to let Sessions go ... should that be the decision.

As for the Wolves, this would be a phenomenal signing. Sessions will easily outplay young Flynn and claim the starting spot. At least Al will have two quality players (Love, Sessions) as teammates then, plus two other maybes (Brewer, Flynn).

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I don't think Milwaukee will match. If they were going to do that they would have sent out signals, either in the press or through the agents + front offices. If they were strong on this, then they could get Sessions to sign for an even smaller amount.

I think the Bucks are nuts to let Sessions go ... should that be the decision.

As for the Wolves, this would be a phenomenal signing. Sessions will easily outplay young Flynn and claim the starting spot. At least Al will have two quality players (Love, Sessions) as teammates then, plus two other maybes (Brewer, Flynn).

You think Brewer is a quality player? Or even maybe a quality player next year?

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I don't think Milwaukee will match. If they were going to do that they would have sent out signals, either in the press or through the agents + front offices. If they were strong on this, then they could get Sessions to sign for an even smaller amount.

I think the Bucks are nuts to let Sessions go ... should that be the decision.

As for the Wolves, this would be a phenomenal signing. Sessions will easily outplay young Flynn and claim the starting spot. At least Al will have two quality players (Love, Sessions) as teammates then, plus two other maybes (Brewer, Flynn).

You think Brewer is a quality player? Or even maybe a quality player next year?
At this point in his career -- Corey Brewer is a very good defender, very good rebounder, good passer and a good ball handler. He can't just can't shoot, and is consequently an inefficient scorer.

Brewer is a jump shot away from being one of the best role players in the league. Also, I think the only thing he needs to fulfill the rest of his defensive potential is court time + experience.

Corey Brewer is a really good young player with very good potential (once the scoring/shooting clicks).

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There are three PGs currently in Milwaukee in Ridnour, Jennings and Ukic. Charlie Bell has played as a backup PG through a good portion of his career playing upwards towards 10% of Milwaukee's minutes at the PG position some years. I just don't see any chance of the Bucks matching the offer and then being stuck with him as a 4th or 5th PG on a 15 man roster.

Personally I love Sessions game and think he will flourish in Minnesota or anywhere else he gets a chance to start and play 30 minutes or more.

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There are three PGs currently in Milwaukee in Ridnour, Jennings and Ukic. Charlie Bell has played as a backup PG through a good portion of his career playing upwards towards 10% of Milwaukee's minutes at the PG position some years. I just don't see any chance of the Bucks matching the offer and then being stuck with him as a 4th or 5th PG on a 15 man roster.

Personally I love Sessions game and think he will flourish in Minnesota or anywhere else he gets a chance to start and play 30 minutes or more.
I think they'll match and move one of their other PGs. Sessions is younger, and by all reports this contract will be very cheap for his potential.

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/61440/20090904/sessions_wolves_agree_to_terms/

He signed for 4 years/$16 million. I don't see Milwaukee matching that unless they can move Ridnour for a trade exception which I doubt someone will do.

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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/61440/20090904/sessions_wolves_agree_to_terms/

He signed for 4 years/$16 million. I don't see Milwaukee matching that unless they can move Ridnour for a trade exception which I doubt someone will do.

Can they still try to work sign and trades with Minnesota while has an offer sheet on the table? Don't remember the rules and I'm kinda lazy at the moment to look it up.