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ok, NOW can we get a backup PG?
« on: August 31, 2009, 06:25:26 PM »

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I can only imagine we were holding off on the PG because we might have been able to swing one in a 3 team deal

now that Daniels is coming with the BAE, I would hope that we'll get something else done pretty quickly
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Re: ok, NOW can we get a backup PG?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 06:28:43 PM »

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I don't think Danny will sign anyone before training camp with the roster as is, unless a really good opportunity presents itself. Also, we really don't need to fill that final spot with a PG.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 06:28:51 PM »

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Absolutely and we need him before full speed training camp.


I am tired of mid season backup pgs.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2009, 06:37:57 PM »

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Quote from: Edgar on August 31, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
Absolutely and we need him before full speed training camp.


I am tired of mid season backup pgs.

Agreed!

Maybe KG is already on the phone with Ty Lue...
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 06:48:46 PM »

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Or the Arroyo rumor is true  ::)
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 06:52:59 PM »

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If Tyronne Lue, and Carlos Arroyo are our best options I think I'd like to see what Hudson has got. We've got enough vets to allow us to play a rookie 10-12 minutes.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 06:53:23 PM »

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best possible back up PG's in my opinion...

1. Carlos Arroyo
2. Flip Murray
3. Bobby Jackson
4. Brevin Knight
5. Jacque Vaughn
6. Tyronn Lue


wouldn't mind anyone in the 1-4 range
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 06:54:46 PM »

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Quote from: Jeff on August 31, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I can only imagine we were holding off on the PG because we might have been able to swing one in a 3 team deal

now that Daniels is coming with the BAE, I would hope that we'll get something else done pretty quickly

Nope, I think we haven't signed one because we don't have an extra roster spot.  If Daniels really is signed, and there is no trade, I would not be surprised if this is the team we go into the season with, perhaps with a couple guys invited to camp to compete with Hudson for the last roster spot on a partially guaranteed contract.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 07:10:28 PM »

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Quote from: Jeff on August 31, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I can only imagine we were holding off on the PG because we might have been able to swing one in a 3 team deal

now that Daniels is coming with the BAE, I would hope that we'll get something else done pretty quickly
Me too.  Given the age of our squad (I'll now say something unpopular), I think we are in the last year of our window.  Get the best vet PG you can now and let Hudson walk.  Might have kept him had a trade materialized, but if I had to choose between a vet PG and him for THIS year, I'll take the vet.  To heck with keeping developmental guys.  It's now or never (or at least a good while).

You win championships with stars performing at or near their peak.  Our big 3 and Sheed are all far enough on the back side of their careers that I really think this is our last shot.  Capitalize now.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 07:15:10 PM »

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 it'd be nice to see this get resolved somehow. this has been the never ending story - the quest for a backup pg. You'd think they'd been searching for the holy grail. there's been plenty of decent otions available - sign one!
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 07:15:40 PM »

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Yeah load up with quality vets for the next couple years at least, developing players be [dang]ed. Roll a Scal/TA/Giddens or Walker deal to get a Posey/Nocioni. Then sign Arroyo for extreme insurance. We could still sign Hudson if desired..
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 08:00:32 PM »

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Quote from: perks-a-beast on August 31, 2009, 06:53:23 PM
best possible back up PG's in my opinion...

1. Carlos Arroyo
2. Flip Murray
3. Bobby Jackson
4. Brevin Knight
5. Jacque Vaughn
6. Tyronn Lue


wouldn't mind anyone in the 1-4 range

I don't like Murray.  We already have an undersized 2 in a 1's body in House.  We don't need two.  Though I think Eddie ultimately beats most of those guys out--somewhat negating their value--I think a purer PG like Arroyo, Jackson, Knight, or Vaughn would be nice to have in case Rondo goes down for a few weeks. 

However, I wouldn't stress too much about it.  If Rondo goes down for the season, none of those guys will make up for it enough to still win #18.  Furthermore, if he only goes down for a few weeks, any of those guys will be good enough for the C's to win most regular season games. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2009, 08:41:42 PM »

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Quote from: Jeff on August 31, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I can only imagine we were holding off on the PG because we might have been able to swing one in a 3 team deal

now that Daniels is coming with the BAE, I would hope that we'll get something else done pretty quickly

pollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpollpoll.....

pleaszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze add a poll to this thread. my suggestions for whom to put in the poll would be...

all the folk above and

the celtics very own hudson!
 
and you might as well throw in my least favorite choice...."mad man" marbury.

thanks!
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2009, 09:15:07 PM »

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Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on August 31, 2009, 06:28:43 PM
I don't think Danny will sign anyone before training camp with the roster as is, unless a really good opportunity presents itself. Also, we really don't need to fill that final spot with a PG.
I agree.  I'd rather upgrade the backup SF.  I think Daniels and House are good enough to back up the PG.  I don't think Daniels is the solution for the backup SF though.  I'd rather see someone a little bigger and/or athletic.  If we can't trade for one maybe Rodney Carney?

I could live with Bobby Jackson, Arroyo or Flip Murray though.  Those guys still have game.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2009, 09:19:29 PM »

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Quote from: Mencius on August 31, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 31, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
I can only imagine we were holding off on the PG because we might have been able to swing one in a 3 team deal

now that Daniels is coming with the BAE, I would hope that we'll get something else done pretty quickly
Me too.  Given the age of our squad (I'll now say something unpopular), I think we are in the last year of our window.  Get the best vet PG you can now and let Hudson walk.  Might have kept him had a trade materialized, but if I had to choose between a vet PG and him for THIS year, I'll take the vet.  To heck with keeping developmental guys.  It's now or never (or at least a good while).

You win championships with stars performing at or near their peak.  Our big 3 and Sheed are all far enough on the back side of their careers that I really think this is our last shot.  Capitalize now.

I agree that a vet back-up is the best scenario for this year.
 
However, I think the evidence is only a bit more than circumstantial that the window closes after this year. The circumstantial evidence rests in that the 3 are at an age where deterioration often begins. However, Pierce has not shown me that he has slowed much at all -- and given that he is not overplayed I think he can be strong for 2 or 3 more years. I also believe that given Ray's diligent work ethic that he could maintain his current level of performance for a few years. The big question mark is the impact of Kevin's injury. If KG comes back strong with no ill effects from the injury -- is it really crazy to think they can compete for an additional year or 2 beyond this year -- especially given improvement from Rondo/Perk/Baby?
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