in 500 years who will be remembered from the 20th

[Neurotic Guy]

Since the capacity to store historical artifacts is different now than at any other point in history, virtually anyone will be 'remembered' depending upon the interests of the seeker.   

However, those folks who are known by most -- as in, still part of popoular culture 5 centuries hence (as Beethoven, DaVinci, Columbus, Galileo, etc. are today), depends so much upon how world culture evolves.  It may be that the folks who we see today as so influential, such difference makers in this century, may be forgotten based on the twists and turns of human values moving forward.  We still see DaVinci and Beethoven as having an influence on today's world, and therefore they are remembered.  If I had to guess, I'd say Beethoven is more likely to be remembered in 500 years than any of the aforementioned musicians.  I'd like to think that The Beatles and Elvis would be remembered, but once everyone is dead who was alive while they were in their heyday, the passion of keeping their memories alive will be mitigated -- only the historians will care -- unless, of course, their music stands the test of time.  My guess is that only those with a passion for musical history will eventually know Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, Elvis, Dylan -- while the mainstream folks will only know their current artists along with with classical geniuses.  Just think today about how great a musical artist like Gershwin (for instance) was -- and he is already unheard of by most folks under 40. 

Helen Keller is a historical icon, but will be forgotten to modern culture as soon as those of us who remember her die off. 

Einstein will matter in the way Galileo, Copernicus, etc. matter as he'll be seen as a father of important work in the history of humankind.

Thomas Edison, Alexander G. Bell, Neil Armstrong and Charles Lindbergh might make the list as answers to trivia questions.     

[nickagneta]

If someone can tell me the two or three biggest names in swing music dueing the twenties and thirties without having to Google it and if the rest of the board recognizes those names, I might believe that in 50 years someone will remember who Jay Z was. In 500, not a chance.

[fairweatherfan]

If someone can tell me the two or three biggest names in swing music dueing the twenties and thirties without having to Google it and if the rest of the board recognizes those names, I might believe that in 50 years someone will remember who Jay Z was. In 500, not a chance.

Yup, and 80 years from now people will remember Madonna as clearly and fondly as people today remember Clara Bow.

Entertainers are pretty much doomed - but the 20th century does have one asset, which is superior preservation of content.  Whoever the greatest actor of Shakespeare's time was, we'll have to take people's word for it; but in 2509, if someone wants to watch the original of The Godfather, chances are it'll still be around somewhere.  If the material's still around, there'll be a few people who still enjoy it, but the vast majority of people will have moved on to the fashionable entertainment of the day.

[Edgar]

If someone can tell me the two or three biggest names in swing music dueing the twenties and thirties without having to Google it and if the rest of the board recognizes those names, I might believe that in 50 years someone will remember who Jay Z was. In 500, not a chance.

Yup, and 80 years from now people will remember Madonna as clearly and fondly as people today remember Clara Bow.

Entertainers are pretty much doomed - but the 20th century does have one asset, which is superior preservation of content.  Whoever the greatest actor of Shakespeare's time was, we'll have to take people's word for it; but in 2509, if someone wants to watch the original of The Godfather, chances are it'll still be around somewhere.  If the material's still around, there'll be a few people who still enjoy it, but the vast majority of people will have moved on to the fashionable entertainment of the day.

unless u are this man

[fairweatherfan]

Or if entertainers can be combined with historical figures who are remembered:



Yes, that is Hitler (apparently)

[budMovin]

Since the capacity to store historical artifacts is different now than at any other point in history, virtually anyone will be 'remembered' depending upon the interests of the seeker.   

However, those folks who are known by most -- as in, still part of popoular culture 5 centuries hence (as Beethoven, DaVinci, Columbus, Galileo, etc. are today), depends so much upon how world culture evolves.  It may be that the folks who we see today as so influential, such difference makers in this century, may be forgotten based on the twists and turns of human values moving forward.  We still see DaVinci and Beethoven as having an influence on today's world, and therefore they are remembered.  If I had to guess, I'd say Beethoven is more likely to be remembered in 500 years than any of the aforementioned musicians.  I'd like to think that The Beatles and Elvis would be remembered, but once everyone is dead who was alive while they were in their heyday, the passion of keeping their memories alive will be mitigated -- only the historians will care -- unless, of course, their music stands the test of time.  My guess is that only those with a passion for musical history will eventually know Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, Elvis, Dylan -- while the mainstream folks will only know their current artists along with with classical geniuses.  Just think today about how great a musical artist like Gershwin (for instance) was -- and he is already unheard of by most folks under 40. 

Helen Keller is a historical icon, but will be forgotten to modern culture as soon as those of us who remember her die off. 

Einstein will matter in the way Galileo, Copernicus, etc. matter as he'll be seen as a father of important work in the history of humankind.

Thomas Edison, Alexander G. Bell, Neil Armstrong and Charles Lindbergh might make the list as answers to trivia questions.     

I ran out of gas thinking about how I was going to word an idea like this. You obviously understand that history remembers those who change it the most. We associate entertainers with the nostalgia that they give us during our co-existing lifetime. This personal sentiment dies with the person. Entertainers do not impact how millions of people live in a time span much beyond their own lives... You definitely structured your argument much better than I would have, TP for you.


Also, what a great thread this is. I can't remember the last time a forum topic has got my brain churning to this extent.

[Edgar]

Since the capacity to store historical artifacts is different now than at any other point in history, virtually anyone will be 'remembered' depending upon the interests of the seeker.   

However, those folks who are known by most -- as in, still part of popoular culture 5 centuries hence (as Beethoven, DaVinci, Columbus, Galileo, etc. are today), depends so much upon how world culture evolves.  It may be that the folks who we see today as so influential, such difference makers in this century, may be forgotten based on the twists and turns of human values moving forward.  We still see DaVinci and Beethoven as having an influence on today's world, and therefore they are remembered.  If I had to guess, I'd say Beethoven is more likely to be remembered in 500 years than any of the aforementioned musicians.  I'd like to think that The Beatles and Elvis would be remembered, but once everyone is dead who was alive while they were in their heyday, the passion of keeping their memories alive will be mitigated -- only the historians will care -- unless, of course, their music stands the test of time.  My guess is that only those with a passion for musical history will eventually know Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, Elvis, Dylan -- while the mainstream folks will only know their current artists along with with classical geniuses.  Just think today about how great a musical artist like Gershwin (for instance) was -- and he is already unheard of by most folks under 40. 

Helen Keller is a historical icon, but will be forgotten to modern culture as soon as those of us who remember her die off. 

Einstein will matter in the way Galileo, Copernicus, etc. matter as he'll be seen as a father of important work in the history of humankind.

Thomas Edison, Alexander G. Bell, Neil Armstrong and Charles Lindbergh might make the list as answers to trivia questions.     

I ran out of gas thinking about how I was going to word an idea like this. You obviously understand that history remembers those who change it the most. We associate entertainers with the nostalgia that they give us during our co-existing lifetime. This personal sentiment dies with the person. Entertainers do not impact how millions of people live in a time span much beyond their own lives... You definitely structured your argument much better than I would have, TP for you.

So u say no to MCHammer, Cantinflas, Chespirito y el magico Gonzales.
ohh humanity.
 

[nickagneta]

Since the capacity to store historical artifacts is different now than at any other point in history, virtually anyone will be 'remembered' depending upon the interests of the seeker.   

However, those folks who are known by most -- as in, still part of popoular culture 5 centuries hence (as Beethoven, DaVinci, Columbus, Galileo, etc. are today), depends so much upon how world culture evolves.  It may be that the folks who we see today as so influential, such difference makers in this century, may be forgotten based on the twists and turns of human values moving forward.  We still see DaVinci and Beethoven as having an influence on today's world, and therefore they are remembered.  If I had to guess, I'd say Beethoven is more likely to be remembered in 500 years than any of the aforementioned musicians.  I'd like to think that The Beatles and Elvis would be remembered, but once everyone is dead who was alive while they were in their heyday, the passion of keeping their memories alive will be mitigated -- only the historians will care -- unless, of course, their music stands the test of time.  My guess is that only those with a passion for musical history will eventually know Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, Elvis, Dylan -- while the mainstream folks will only know their current artists along with with classical geniuses.  Just think today about how great a musical artist like Gershwin (for instance) was -- and he is already unheard of by most folks under 40. 

Helen Keller is a historical icon, but will be forgotten to modern culture as soon as those of us who remember her die off. 

Einstein will matter in the way Galileo, Copernicus, etc. matter as he'll be seen as a father of important work in the history of humankind.

Thomas Edison, Alexander G. Bell, Neil Armstrong and Charles Lindbergh might make the list as answers to trivia questions.     

I ran out of gas thinking about how I was going to word an idea like this. You obviously understand that history remembers those who change it the most. We associate entertainers with the nostalgia that they give us during our co-existing lifetime. This personal sentiment dies with the person. Entertainers do not impact how millions of people live in a time span much beyond their own lives... You definitely structured your argument much better than I would have, TP for you.

So u say no to MCHammer, Cantinflas, Chespirito y el magico Gonzales.
ohh humanity.
 

[dang], Edgar, with the exception of Hammer, who I would rather forget than remember, I don't know who any of those guys are.

[Edgar]

Since the capacity to store historical artifacts is different now than at any other point in history, virtually anyone will be 'remembered' depending upon the interests of the seeker.   

However, those folks who are known by most -- as in, still part of popoular culture 5 centuries hence (as Beethoven, DaVinci, Columbus, Galileo, etc. are today), depends so much upon how world culture evolves.  It may be that the folks who we see today as so influential, such difference makers in this century, may be forgotten based on the twists and turns of human values moving forward.  We still see DaVinci and Beethoven as having an influence on today's world, and therefore they are remembered.  If I had to guess, I'd say Beethoven is more likely to be remembered in 500 years than any of the aforementioned musicians.  I'd like to think that The Beatles and Elvis would be remembered, but once everyone is dead who was alive while they were in their heyday, the passion of keeping their memories alive will be mitigated -- only the historians will care -- unless, of course, their music stands the test of time.  My guess is that only those with a passion for musical history will eventually know Louis Armstrong, The Beatles, Elvis, Dylan -- while the mainstream folks will only know their current artists along with with classical geniuses.  Just think today about how great a musical artist like Gershwin (for instance) was -- and he is already unheard of by most folks under 40. 

Helen Keller is a historical icon, but will be forgotten to modern culture as soon as those of us who remember her die off. 

Einstein will matter in the way Galileo, Copernicus, etc. matter as he'll be seen as a father of important work in the history of humankind.

Thomas Edison, Alexander G. Bell, Neil Armstrong and Charles Lindbergh might make the list as answers to trivia questions.     

I ran out of gas thinking about how I was going to word an idea like this. You obviously understand that history remembers those who change it the most. We associate entertainers with the nostalgia that they give us during our co-existing lifetime. This personal sentiment dies with the person. Entertainers do not impact how millions of people live in a time span much beyond their own lives... You definitely structured your argument much better than I would have, TP for you.

So u say no to MCHammer, Cantinflas, Chespirito y el magico Gonzales.
ohh humanity.
 

[dang], Edgar, with the exception of Hammer, who I would rather forget than remember, I don't know who any of those guys are.

well theres some homework for u


Cantinflas and Chespirito were mexicanc comediants well known over latin america
cantinflas appears in the original around the earth in 80 days.

Chespirito was more of a tv guy, now still alive becomes a writer.

Magico Gonzales is the best soccer player ever in central america
even Maradona once says that the best player in the world wasnt him but a salvadorean
and hes almost a god in Cadiz where he makes his carrer.
Sadly he was a bohemian alcoholic and love to have problems with chicks, the daughter of the owner of his club included.
ohh good times......

[Master Po]

I am pretty sure Edgar will be remembered as my little girl and DW as my boy. By the way nuerotic guy - that was a great response

[Edgar]

I am pretty sure Edgar will be remembered as my little girl and DW as my boy. By the way nuerotic guy - that was a great response

well u know what they say about... behind an Old lady.....

ps. Delonte West is MY boy.

[nickagneta]

Some hypotheticals of people who will be remembered for 21st century:

First person to land on another planet.

The next person to authorize or detonate a nuclear weapon for the purpose of killing people.

First person to be cloned.

Person responsible for the invention of a fossil fuel alternative, wide scale use engine or energy source.

Inventor of artificial intelligence.

Inventor or person responsible for the correct theory that leads to the development of interstellar travel.

[LarBrd33]

Tom from Myspace

[hwangjini_1]

and and

because latin peoeple never forgot their heroes.

so where is che?

[Edgar]

and and

because latin peoeple never forgot their heroes.

so where is che?

well in utila island he will be remembered for sure
next to master marley
in some divemaster house. ak.a. my alma matter