No rest for PP….again?

[Fafnir]

To Fafnir, I agree that Daniel's lack of shooting is a concern; however, the C's didn't do horribly last year with Rondo and TA on the court from a spacing perspective.  There were certainly problems with that lineup (namely TA dribbling the ball of his feet or throwing it away), but Daniels should hopefully mitigate those problems.  Plus, he'll likely get the bulk of his minutes with House and/or Wallace, vastly diminishing the spacing issue. 

It didn't work against the Bulls, that's the memory that's sticking in my mind at this point.

[Reyquila]

With respect to Daniel's status as a Celtic, Ill just quote Master Po's signature post: Is it soup yet? 

[Jon]

To Fafnir, I agree that Daniel's lack of shooting is a concern; however, the C's didn't do horribly last year with Rondo and TA on the court from a spacing perspective.  There were certainly problems with that lineup (namely TA dribbling the ball of his feet or throwing it away), but Daniels should hopefully mitigate those problems.  Plus, he'll likely get the bulk of his minutes with House and/or Wallace, vastly diminishing the spacing issue. 

It didn't work against the Bulls, that's the memory that's sticking in my mind at this point.

Well, that was also without KG.  Add KG back to the equation, plus Rasheed, and a less beaten down PP and Ray and I think things will be different. 

[LooseCannon]

To Loose Cannon, you may be right about TA; however, keep in mind that even if Rondo, Allen, and Pierce only averaged 32 mpg each, that'd only leave 48 mpg to backup the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I think Eddie and Daniels could each play 24 mpg and cover all of our bases without overburdening anyone.  Foul trouble could force Doc to use someone else at times, but I see no reason why House and Daniels can't cover us at the 1-3, even during the regular season. 

They could.  I just don't think Doc will do that, at least at the start of the season.  I think it is likely he will experiment with a five-for-five substitution and take out all the starters in favor of a Daniels/House/TA/Baby/Sheed at some point. 

I also think that Eddie House is a guy who won't see more than 20mpg.  It will be tough for Daniels to soak up the other 28 minutes, even if he is split between three positions.  Posey did 24-25 off the bench when he was in Boston.  I think a more reasonable expectation is that Daniels gets 20-24, House gets 16-18, and either TA or Walker picks up the rest.

It may also be in the Celtics best interest to try and play Tony Allen if they can't find a third team to take him in a Daniels sign-and-trade so that someone might take him in a mid-season trade.

The other scenario is that they do something like put up a KG/Sheed/Perk front court occasionally to create match-up hell so that KG takes a share of the back-up 3 load and more minutes are freed up for Big Baby.

[BrickJames]

I agree with MD as Point Forward.

Beyond that, is it unreasonable to expect to see a lineup of Rondo, Ray, KG, Sheed, and Perk at one point (early 4th quarter or matchup situations)?  Offensively, of course, there's no problem - but also I think that could be a killer 2-3 (or even a 3-2) zone with Perk in the middle and KG/Sheed stretching out the wings.  Would love to see any team try to kill that zone.

[Jon]

To Loose Cannon, you may be right about TA; however, keep in mind that even if Rondo, Allen, and Pierce only averaged 32 mpg each, that'd only leave 48 mpg to backup the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I think Eddie and Daniels could each play 24 mpg and cover all of our bases without overburdening anyone.  Foul trouble could force Doc to use someone else at times, but I see no reason why House and Daniels can't cover us at the 1-3, even during the regular season. 

They could.  I just don't think Doc will do that, at least at the start of the season.  I think it is likely he will experiment with a five-for-five substitution and take out all the starters in favor of a Daniels/House/TA/Baby/Sheed at some point. 

I also think that Eddie House is a guy who won't see more than 20mpg.  It will be tough for Daniels to soak up the other 28 minutes, even if he is split between three positions.  Posey did 24-25 off the bench when he was in Boston.  I think a more reasonable expectation is that Daniels gets 20-24, House gets 16-18, and either TA or Walker picks up the rest.

It may also be in the Celtics best interest to try and play Tony Allen if they can't find a third team to take him in a Daniels sign-and-trade so that someone might take him in a mid-season trade.

The other scenario is that they do something like put up a KG/Sheed/Perk front court occasionally to create match-up hell so that KG takes a share of the back-up 3 load and more minutes are freed up for Big Baby.

I don't entirely disagree, though I disagree that Doc should do that.  However, if Eddie is only playing 18 or so mpg, and Daniels 25 or so, I again question whether KG should be the one getting the odd 5 or so mpg at the 3 spot.  I know people have pointed out flaws with that, but keep in mind, 5 mpg of KG at the 3 is 5 more mpg that Big Baby gets to play at the 4.  And what would you prefer, 5 mpg of KG at the 3 and Baby at the 4?  Or 5 mpg of TA at the 3 and KG at the 4?  While neither is perfect, I think I prefer the former. 

[Fafnir]

To Loose Cannon, you may be right about TA; however, keep in mind that even if Rondo, Allen, and Pierce only averaged 32 mpg each, that'd only leave 48 mpg to backup the 1, 2, and 3 spots.  I think Eddie and Daniels could each play 24 mpg and cover all of our bases without overburdening anyone.  Foul trouble could force Doc to use someone else at times, but I see no reason why House and Daniels can't cover us at the 1-3, even during the regular season. 

They could.  I just don't think Doc will do that, at least at the start of the season.  I think it is likely he will experiment with a five-for-five substitution and take out all the starters in favor of a Daniels/House/TA/Baby/Sheed at some point. 

I also think that Eddie House is a guy who won't see more than 20mpg.  It will be tough for Daniels to soak up the other 28 minutes, even if he is split between three positions.  Posey did 24-25 off the bench when he was in Boston.  I think a more reasonable expectation is that Daniels gets 20-24, House gets 16-18, and either TA or Walker picks up the rest.

It may also be in the Celtics best interest to try and play Tony Allen if they can't find a third team to take him in a Daniels sign-and-trade so that someone might take him in a mid-season trade.

The other scenario is that they do something like put up a KG/Sheed/Perk front court occasionally to create match-up hell so that KG takes a share of the back-up 3 load and more minutes are freed up for Big Baby.

I don't entirely disagree, though I disagree that Doc should do that.  However, if Eddie is only playing 18 or so mpg, and Daniels 25 or so, I again question whether KG should be the one getting the odd 5 or so mpg at the 3 spot.  I know people have pointed out flaws with that, but keep in mind, 5 mpg of KG at the 3 is 5 more mpg that Big Baby gets to play at the 4.  And what would you prefer, 5 mpg of KG at the 3 and Baby at the 4?  Or 5 mpg of TA at the 3 and KG at the 4?  While neither is perfect, I think I prefer the former. 

KG is too old to play the 3 anymore. He'd be far less effective at both ends. Better to have Tony in there than have KG slide further away from the hoop.

I absolutely would rather have KG at his best position and Tony/Bill than BBD/KG/Perk.