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Offline dascott71

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 If Doc said " this is the starting 5 I'm going to use for a little bit to see what happens. How would this be to Celts fans? Rondo at the PG, Pierce SG, KG SF, Perk PF, then Sheed C. I think this would great to see provided nobody got into foul trouble and if they played with good chemistry.

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It'd be awful. KG cannot guard SFs anymore, he hasn't spent any time playing small forward in almost ten years. Pierce also isn't a good match up for many 2 guards in this league anymore. Quick shooters like Ben Gordon would cause him a lot of trouble.

Having Pierce and KG play out of position is a bad idea. I have no problems with a Perk/Sheed lineup though.

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Forget starting.  I don't think I'd want to ever see that bunch on the floor at the same time.

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I think Perk would be your C and Rasheed would be the PF...but that's minute; I don't like PP guarding true 2s, sure he matches up with Lebron, but Lebron is more a 3 like the truth

if we had a shooting guard with potential to start and bring Ray off the bench, I might be for that if it keeps him fresh for the playoffs, but I like Marquis (when will you sign btw??) off the bench more than in that starting role...
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Sadly with doc's unique rotations (maybe this is the  year!)
doc could play this on the court
however he isn't THAT bad of a coach to come up with 2 older guys playing positions that they are no longer fast enough to cover

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It'd be awful. KG cannot guard SFs anymore, he hasn't spent any time playing small forward in almost ten years. Pierce also isn't a good match up for many 2 guards in this league anymore. Quick shooters like Ben Gordon would cause him a lot of trouble.

Having Pierce and KG play out of position is a bad idea. I have no problems with a Perk/Sheed lineup though.

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While I think Doc will trot out that front court of Perk, KG and Wallace out there at least a couple of times just to see what can happen, I would expect him to scrap it after seeing it for the third time and having the other teams beating the C's back up the floor for a 4 on 2 break on a regular basis.

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That's a slow lineup so No.
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we could throw it against teams with slower starting linueps.

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depending on the matchups, I wouldn't be surprised to see it but it would be rare.  It would have to be against a big and slow line-up.  Something like Cleveland using Williams, Lebron, Varajao, Shaq and Z but I just can't see them using that line-up.

Maybe against a Fisher, Kobe, Odom, Pau, Bynum line-up but the C's can put together a better combo against that group.

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Why change the starting 5? Go with what has worked and add to it. KG no longer has the quickness to play the 3 (Although some people on the blog probably think he can play all five positions.), and Perk at the 4 with Rasheed at the 5? I don't even get that.

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While I certainly wouldn't want them to start that lineup, I don't see why people are so down on it for short periods of time.  First of all, I'd ask, prior to his injury last year, did KG really show any dramatic signs of slowing down athletically?  Because I certainly didn't see that.  Second, it's not like Paul Pierce is lighting quick.  Is KG really any "slower" than Paul in terms of lateral quickness?  Third, with his height and reach, he'd be able to stand an extra step off of most 3s and still be able to alter their shot.  And finally, given this team's talent distribution, I think it would make some sense to play KG at the 3 for 5-10 mpg.

Think about it this way.  Pierce and Allen play 32 mpg.  Daniels plays 25 mpg.  If it's a blow out, obviously you can put in one of the young kids for the spare 7 mpg.  But if not, you really have 2 choices (aside from playing one of those 3 more minutes). 

1) Play Eddie House

2) Play KG at the 3

While Eddie certainly offers shooting (which is nice), he's also a huge defensive liability guarding players 5 and 6 inches taller then him.  What's more, if those minutes come next to Ray, he's at a disadvantage guarding larger 3s. 

Playing KG at the 3 would allow us to keep a tall player guarding a 2.  What's more, KG would likely be guarding some backup 3 in those circumstances, largely negating the burden on him.  Furthermore, by playing KG at the 3 for 5-10 mpg, it'd open up minutes for Big Baby to get some more PT, which he'll struggle to get if KG, Perk, and Wallace are dominating all the minutes at the 4/5.

Again, I don't think this is ideal.  And if we had signed Bruce Bowen, I wouldn't be advocating this at all.  But being that we have 4 quality bigs and only 3 quality swingmen, I'd rather see KG play a few mpg at the 3 spot and get Baby some minutes than have the smurfish House play the 2 and keep Baby on the bench. 

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we could throw it against teams with slower starting linueps.
We coulda thrown it at last years Magic, it might have given them fits. Provided you switch Sheed and Perk.

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I think it would be a good lineup ... but not one of the team's best lineups.

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I don't really understand what you get from having Perk on the floor with KG AND Wallace.  Either of them can guard most Centers in the league.  It'd be best to leave Paul at the 3 and put Ray in at the 2.
If we ever did this it would probably be against Howard or Shaq, and Perk would obviously play Center and Rasheed would play on the wing.
I'd probably rather see Eddie and Ray in there than Rondo and Paul, just to keep a strong shooting line-up.
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