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Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2009, 06:49:21 PM »

Offline JBcat

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Here is one. A draft oversight.  Drafting Ron Mercer #6 when TMac was drafted just a couple spots lower.   Although the last few years he has been hurt he has been a scoring machine most of his career.  

hiring ML Carr.

Greg Minor still being paid by the Celts a few years after he stopped playing.

Just overall the mid to late 90s was a mess.  If you look at some of those rosters it's a horror show.  

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2009, 06:51:20 PM »

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the celtics allowing mchale and bird to get old  :(

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2009, 06:57:37 PM »

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May 8, 1997: Auerbach's title is changed from president to vice chairman of the board as the team's patriarch is effectively pushed aside to make room for the Rick Pitino regime, Pitino now holding the title of president and head coach.

What a slap in the face to Red!

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2009, 07:08:07 PM »

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i don't think the brandon roy trade was that bad. i think ainge was already targeting kg. i know when the deal went down i was hoping to hear that kg had finally had enough. i never really thought it would happen though.
  i don't think ainge thought telfair would be great or better than roy. i think he just wanted that shorter contract.
   i was disgusted with the joe johnson deal. i hate the way it went down. someone from the c's brass said that he was'nt aggressive enough. then that was all you heard to knock the guy to justify the trade, and every casual fan just repeated it.

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2009, 08:06:55 PM »

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i don't think the brandon roy trade was that bad. i think ainge was already targeting kg. i know when the deal went down i was hoping to hear that kg had finally had enough. i never really thought it would happen though.
  i don't think ainge thought telfair would be great or better than roy. i think he just wanted that shorter contract.
   i was disgusted with the joe johnson deal. i hate the way it went down. someone from the c's brass said that he was'nt aggressive enough. then that was all you heard to knock the guy to justify the trade, and every casual fan just repeated it.


It was real bad. I mean Telfair? KG wasn't even on the block at that time. We lost out on one of the future best players ever possibly.

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2009, 08:38:23 PM »

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   i was disgusted with the joe johnson deal. i hate the way it went down. someone from the c's brass said that he was'nt aggressive enough. then that was all you heard to knock the guy to justify the trade, and every casual fan just repeated it.

No, I remember the early part of that season specifically.  JJ got some burn early on, did well, got his "J-Smooth" nickname, but then completely disappeared.  He looked lost and passive.  Lost his spot in the rotation, he went from looking like the steal of the draft to looking completely helpless.  It was, of course, WAY too early to give up on him, but at one point Kedrick really did look like the much better player; much more aggressive, much better defense. 

This wasn't something they made up; it was wholly evident in how those two players began the season.  Give us more credit that to just regurgitate Chris Wallace's vomit!

The Ricky Buckets trade I absolutely abhorred at the time, mostly because we were going from such a high-class player in -E-Will to such a knucklehead in Buckets.  Eric was DONE, though, and we knew by then how dead-wrong the initial analysis of Kedrick was (I still blame O'bie's coaching ;)).  Really, the Buckets trade was Ricky-for-Batman, which is still not a trade I would make.

In the end, it didn't really help or hurt us too much; Buckets becomes Szczerbiak, whose contract later helped get Ray Allen.  At the time, though, that was a trade that almost made me stop watching; [dang], I hated Ricky when he first came here.
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Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2009, 09:12:40 PM »

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Well, the last two picks of the 2001 draft were clearly a disaster, and so was the Vin Baker deal.

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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2009, 09:16:11 PM »

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Well, the last two picks of the 2001 draft were clearly a disaster, and so was the Vin Baker deal.

It's gotta be the 2001 draft, right? Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson, Troy Murphy, Brendan Haywood, Gerald Wallace...

Instead: Kedrick Brown, Joe Forte, and Joe Johnson who was gone soon enough anyway

That has to be the worst for me
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Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2009, 09:37:31 PM »

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eh you missed the point by a mile
those programs put out great and lots of good nba players, the teams/coaches are so good that sometimes players get "higher grades" from nba gms than they should
not pierce  ::)
think danny ferry, montross, joe..what was his name? pf i think he was drafted by clippers

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2009, 08:17:15 AM »

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Here is one. A draft oversight.  Drafting Ron Mercer #6 when TMac was drafted just a couple spots lower.   Although the last few years he has been hurt he has been a scoring machine most of his career.  


Mercer wasn't a mistake.  He looked like a terrific pickup at #6 for his 2 years here.  Much better selection than Billups appeared to be at #3.  Maybe looking back at how TMac became a productive scorer once he got to Orlando (after doing little in his 1st 3 years in Toronto) that might look a missed draft opportunity.

Worst situations:
- Pitino coming to town.  (turned Antoine into a chucker instead of the promising PF he looked to be in his rookie year)
- Trading JJ instead of Kedrick.  The trade itself wasn't bad but who they used was a poor decision as well as letting Rogers go as a 1/2 year rental and bringing in Baker to replace him.  Horrible decisions.
- Moving the #7 pick to Portland to get rid of Raef.  Raef had a lousy contract but they gave up up Roy to move him.  Would rather have kept Raef to keep Roy.  This is only mitigated by Danny getting Ratliff which was a year shorter and ended up being used to get KG.
- Drafting Michael Smith-->20 years instead of last 10-15.  so shoot me for being bitter about that one.

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2009, 09:32:55 AM »

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deliberately tanking the 96-97 season in order to try to secure tim duncan in a decision made by ping pong balls.

the boston celtics losing games with a smile should simply never have happened.
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Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2009, 02:19:50 PM »

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Hiring ML Carr would have been justified if we got Duncan. Wasn't that season a supposed tank job (a la Cleveland in 2003)?
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Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »

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Hiring ML Carr would have been justified if we got Duncan. Wasn't that season a supposed tank job (a la Cleveland in 2003)?

he also made that sweet trade of Montross to Dallas to move up in the draft and get Toine (over samaki Walker) and dallas's first, which gave us the best odds out of any team ever to win the lottery. Imagine how many fewer threads would be on here if we had stuck with Samaki Walker. lol

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2009, 02:32:40 PM »

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I know the intent of this post was to discuss roster moves, but I wanted to add one non-roster move to the list.  That was the decision by the team to totally ruin the experience of attending a game.  The loud music, the jumbotron, the promotions, the advertising, the dancers and everything else that's not basketball just detract from the experience for me.  The basketball game provides all the entertainment I need.

Re: Least favorite Celtic move/Non move over the past 15 years?
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2009, 02:51:07 PM »

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At the time, and in no particular order,

trading Joe Johnson,
picking Forte,
signing Blount at all,
having whatever his face as coach - the one that followed Pitino,
bringing Toine back,
Pitino's first draft,
Anything done by M.L. Carr - too many to list,
trading for Telfair,
resigning TA,
releasing Gabe.

I'm getting irritable just thinking about this.