What does it take to become a pro athlete? (Split)

[the_Bird]

If maximizing the poontang  really WAS your objective, you'd have become a profession athlete

Honestly, it's not even worth debating this, other than to wonder why if all one needs to become a professional athlete is hard work and adrenaline, why thousands and thousands of kids who've busted their tail for their whole lives have their dreams broken each year.  If you (or any one of us) was on the court with the C's, every shot we took would be blocked (maybe we could get off a half-court shot), the guy we were defending would score EVERY time they had the ball, and we'd look the fool.  Adrenaline or not, the concept of "talent" - even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play.

[star18]

I haven't ruled out making a chance to tryout for an NBA team yet. I may give it one chance when I am 37, because I have other things in life I want to take care of first.  Is it my life? No.  Am I a great player? Yes. Are the NBA players better than me, yes, are they lightyears ahead of me, I do not believe so.  If I am physically healthy, and in physical shape and I have the drive and passion to play the game why would they be?

friendly wager?

Get me on the court and I'm trouble.  Last week, ---- around and got a triple double.

[star18]

If maximizing the poontang  really WAS your objective, you'd have become a profession athlete

Honestly, it's not even worth debating this, other than to wonder why if all one needs to become a professional athlete is hard work and adrenaline, why thousands and thousands of kids who've busted their tail for their whole lives have their dreams broken each year.  If you (or any one of us) was on the court with the C's, every shot we took would be blocked (maybe we could get off a half-court shot), the guy we were defending would score EVERY time they had the ball, and we'd look the fool.  Adrenaline or not, the concept of "talent" - even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play.

Not really.   Every shot we took would be blocked, even when I passed it down low to KG or Sheed? Don't think so.  I don't think whoever I was guarding would score every time. Does every NBA player make every open shot? Of course not, so shots would be missed.

Again I think you are making the mistake that many people make.  You think the pro athletes are so much better than physically active and in-shape people such as myself and I think you completely overdo it, especially by saying every shot would be blocked.   That is silly.

"why thousands and thousands of kids who've busted their tail for their whole lives have their dreams broken each year" that is why they don't make it, because they have already busted their tail for years, that have already tried their hardest, why do they have to play in 1,000 pro games to be considered talented? Why do they have to play 24/7, why do they have to spend 6 hours around guys every day to be talented?

And about the girls I do not agree.  How can I hook up with girls if I am committed to a sport that demands 50 hours a week of hard work out of me.  I've been in the clubs in the tri-state area, way over 1,000 times, I've never seen one professional athlete, do you know why? Because they aren't allowed to do that, if they cheat on their wife or have mutliple girlfriends the media finds out and makes a story about it.  Pro athletes can't go to the clubs every 3 days and spend 10 hours a week there which is what I do.   Yes the million dollar contract would help, but I still know how to make money so that is not the issue.

[star18]

"even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play"

And how do you know I don't have that? I'm 5"11 200lbs and athletic, why wouldn't I have that.  You're not talking about a 45 year old couch potato here.  If someone is the same height, weight and are athletically simliar to me how much better than me do you think they really are?  And if we did compete what would be the deciding factor.  That I played 1,000 games and played 15 full pro seasons? Why do I have to play that much to show that I am talented?

[pengaloo]

"even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play"

And how do you know I don't have that? I'm 5"11 200lbs and athletic, why wouldn't I have that.  You're not talking about a 45 year old couch potato here.  If someone is the same height, weight and are athletically simliar to me how much better than me do you think they really are?  And if we did compete what would be the deciding factor.  That I played 1,000 games and played 15 full pro seasons? Why do I have to play that much to show that I am talented?

Equivalent height, weight, and built doesn't mean you're going to have equivalent talent... that's like saying just because two books look the same on the outside, they're identically well-written on the inside.

[cdif911]

If maximizing the poontang  really WAS your objective, you'd have become a profession athlete

Honestly, it's not even worth debating this, other than to wonder why if all one needs to become a professional athlete is hard work and adrenaline, why thousands and thousands of kids who've busted their tail for their whole lives have their dreams broken each year.  If you (or any one of us) was on the court with the C's, every shot we took would be blocked (maybe we could get off a half-court shot), the guy we were defending would score EVERY time they had the ball, and we'd look the fool.  Adrenaline or not, the concept of "talent" - even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play.

Not really.   Every shot we took would be blocked, even when I passed it down low to KG or Sheed? Don't think so.  I don't think whoever I was guarding would score every time. Does every NBA player make every open shot? Of course not, so shots would be missed.

watch an NBA player shoot around, they make 9 out of 10 shots easily, from every spot on the court - I was watching Scalabrine shoot around and he was around 85-90%, it was ridiculous...

and yes, you would get scored on often and have trouble getting your shot off, very few NBAers are 5'10 and those who are, are athletic physical freaks...

[BigDanz2000]

This thread is seriously making me laugh.  That is not a joke.  I laughed alot.

Im not ripping on you Star, but c'mon. Seriously?  I applaud your confidence, but you are 100% wrong on your judgment.  You could not get a 1 game contract and hold your own, you just couldnt.  Ive played against D1 players at the college I attended, CCSU, not a powerhouse by any means, and they were stronger, faster, quicker, smarter, and had very high basketball IQ, something I think you are overlooking. 

Please Star don't continue this argument.  But if you do, I, and the rest of us will continue to get a good laugh.

[bdm860]

I haven't ruled out making a chance to tryout for an NBA team yet. I may give it one chance when I am 37, because I have other things in life I want to take care of first.  Is it my life? No.  Am I a great player? Yes. Are the NBA players better than me, yes, are they lightyears ahead of me, I do not believe so.  If I am physically healthy, and in physical shape and I have the drive and passion to play the game why would they be?

Post of the year?

[cdif911]

I haven't ruled out making a chance to tryout for an NBA team yet. I may give it one chance when I am 37, because I have other things in life I want to take care of first.  Is it my life? No.  Am I a great player? Yes. Are the NBA players better than me, yes, are they lightyears ahead of me, I do not believe so.  If I am physically healthy, and in physical shape and I have the drive and passion to play the game why would they be?

Post of the year?

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[star18]

"even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play"

And how do you know I don't have that? I'm 5"11 200lbs and athletic, why wouldn't I have that.  You're not talking about a 45 year old couch potato here.  If someone is the same height, weight and are athletically simliar to me how much better than me do you think they really are?  And if we did compete what would be the deciding factor.  That I played 1,000 games and played 15 full pro seasons? Why do I have to play that much to show that I am talented?

Equivalent height, weight, and built doesn't mean you're going to have equivalent talent... that's like saying just because two books look the same on the outside, they're identically well-written on the inside.

It also doesn't mean that you don't have the equivalent talent.  At least if you were 5'2 and weigh 125 lbs and were 48 years old at least someone could say you don't have equivalent talent because you are nowhere near the pros physically or athletically. 

[star18]

If maximizing the poontang  really WAS your objective, you'd have become a profession athlete

Honestly, it's not even worth debating this, other than to wonder why if all one needs to become a professional athlete is hard work and adrenaline, why thousands and thousands of kids who've busted their tail for their whole lives have their dreams broken each year.  If you (or any one of us) was on the court with the C's, every shot we took would be blocked (maybe we could get off a half-court shot), the guy we were defending would score EVERY time they had the ball, and we'd look the fool.  Adrenaline or not, the concept of "talent" - even if nothing more than balance, co-ordination, and quick-twitch muscle response - does come into play.

Not really.   Every shot we took would be blocked, even when I passed it down low to KG or Sheed? Don't think so.  I don't think whoever I was guarding would score every time. Does every NBA player make every open shot? Of course not, so shots would be missed.

watch an NBA player shoot around, they make 9 out of 10 shots easily, from every spot on the court - I was watching Scalabrine shoot around and he was around 85-90%, it was ridiculous...

and yes, you would get scored on often and have trouble getting your shot off, very few NBAers are 5'10 and those who are, are athletic physical freaks...

That is not true, they don't all shoot 90% from every spot on the court at all times.   Yes they are great shooters.   When I was 19, me and my friend were shooting around and he made 16 long jumpers in a row, so what does that mean?

[star18]

This thread is seriously making me laugh.  That is not a joke.  I laughed alot.

Im not ripping on you Star, but c'mon. Seriously?  I applaud your confidence, but you are 100% wrong on your judgment.  You could not get a 1 game contract and hold your own, you just couldnt.  Ive played against D1 players at the college I attended, CCSU, not a powerhouse by any means, and they were stronger, faster, quicker, smarter, and had very high basketball IQ, something I think you are overlooking. 

Please Star don't continue this argument.  But if you do, I, and the rest of us will continue to get a good laugh.

You don't have the information necessary to tell me that. It isn't an arguement.  You are a pessimest, and I am an optimist.  I don't look at these guys like OMG they are so much better than me.  Rather I look at it like, hey I would want to play with these guys to see what it is really like.  You also say stronger, faster, quicker, smarter, like its some Kanye West song, and plus basketball IQ.  How are they stronger?  I already stated I am in great shape weigh 200 and work out 4 days a week for 15 years.  How much faster can they be? How much quicker? Can I beat Usian Bolt in a 200 meter race? Of course not. I'll tell you one thing though, I'm not going to be at the 100 meter mark when he crosses the line either, and that is what you are making me out to be.  Smarter? How do you know?   I was on this blog for about 20 posts telling you Orlando is right there with Cleveland and people ripped on me so obviously I know something about basketball.  And that goes with basketball IQ also.  Obviously if I have followed basketball for 25 years I have a high basketball IQ.

[star18]

It just goes to show you that many Americans are caught up in media hype and what the newspapers and tv stations tell you.  All any of you go by is what famous people say and do, and what announcers and experts say happens.  You don't believe in anything for yourself.  You just believe what everybody else tells you will happen. 

I'm not saying I am the greatest player of all-time.   What I am saying is that if Paul passed me the ball it wouldn't bounce off my elbow and go out of bounds.  And if I threw it down low to Rasheed I wouldn't miss my target by 20 feet and have the ball go into the 4th row.  But that is how some of you are making it out to be.  You don't believe in yourselves.  I am an optimist, not a pessimest.   I dont' get caught up in media hype, I believe in what I believe in.

These guys aren't 8'3 and weigh 370 pounds of muscle, they are atheltic human beings like many other people are.

You think all the best rappers have record deals, all the best singers win Grammy's, all the best actors/actresses are in Hollywood, and all the best models work for Victoria Secret.  That is not the case.  You just believe what the media tells you to believe in.  You don't think for yourselves. 

[star18]

A couple of these posts are exactly proving my point.  Some of you are sitting there telling me I can't do this, I can't do that, I can't make a shot, I can't make a pass etc.   When none of you even know what I look like!!! You have never even seen a basketball in my hands!!!!  You are the exact examples I am talking about with athletes in younger age groups trying to make teams.  They say you can't play, you can't do this or that, because you are not the coaches son and not buddy buddy with the manager and the coaches son, that's why!! 

Again, until I step on the court anything I say carries just as much weight as anything you say because nothing is proven until the game is played. 

[dark_lord]

star.....where do u play?  i wanna see u play firsthand.