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Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 10:05:42 PM »

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Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 10:10:30 PM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?
Knicks are still pretty bad without him. The last time the Knicks were good was when Ewing was still on the team.

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

If craziness took away from talent, Allen Iverson wouldn't be putting up 20 points a night. Face it, the best NBA players are at least a little crazy. Well...they're not the most sane people on Earth, I'll tell ya that.
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Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2009, 10:40:39 PM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?
Knicks are still pretty bad without him. The last time the Knicks were good was when Ewing was still on the team.

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

If craziness took away from talent, Allen Iverson wouldn't be putting up 20 points a night. Face it, the best NBA players are at least a little crazy. Well...they're not the most sane people on Earth, I'll tell ya that.

But they were 9 games better last year without him.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2009, 12:03:49 AM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?
Knicks are still pretty bad without him. The last time the Knicks were good was when Ewing was still on the team.

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

If craziness took away from talent, Allen Iverson wouldn't be putting up 20 points a night. Face it, the best NBA players are at least a little crazy. Well...they're not the most sane people on Earth, I'll tell ya that.

Are you really bring up AI now?  HAHA  Look what happened when AI was removed from Denver and placed in Detroit.  Denver had an amazing season and Detroit blew up.  Cancers kill teams and I don't want to take a chance for crazy Marbury to blew up the Celtics.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2009, 12:08:42 AM »

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I use to have negative feelings about Marbury.  But he donated a lot of money to the Hurricane Katrina victims and he sincerely cried at the news conference when he donated money.  The only thing wrong with Marbury is that he chased the money and got it.   He gave a lot of New Yorkers grief and for that I will always be a fan.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2009, 12:47:58 AM »

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I really don't get all the hate on Marbury.
He sucked while he played here. Then he started webcasting and things got strange.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2009, 12:51:56 AM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?
Knicks are still pretty bad without him. The last time the Knicks were good was when Ewing was still on the team.

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

If craziness took away from talent, Allen Iverson wouldn't be putting up 20 points a night. Face it, the best NBA players are at least a little crazy. Well...they're not the most sane people on Earth, I'll tell ya that.
It all depends on the player. Stephon let his immaturity and craziness detract from his talent. So have Rasheed and AI to be honest with you. KG so far has made it work for him for the most part, but that's because his crazy has always been about playing hard and being successful. Not about how many shots, the refs, or being the superstar.

Besides Stephon has never been as good as people say. Scoring via volume shooting is overrated. Especially from the point guard position.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2009, 01:19:56 AM »

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But they were 9 games better last year without him.
Yet they still stink.
Are you really bring up AI now?  HAHA  Look what happened when AI was removed from Denver and placed in Detroit.  Denver had an amazing season and Detroit blew up.  Cancers kill teams and I don't want to take a chance for crazy Marbury to blew up the Celtics.
AI and the Sixers had a great season in 00-01, so if he is a cancer, he sure isn't a consistent one.

You took a chance on Marbury last season, and nothing negative for the team came out of that, so why not give him another chance?
It all depends on the player. Stephon let his immaturity and craziness detract from his talent. So have Rasheed and AI to be honest with you. KG so far has made it work for him for the most part, but that's because his crazy has always been about playing hard and being successful. Not about how many shots, the refs, or being the superstar.

Besides Stephon has never been as good as people say. Scoring via volume shooting is overrated. Especially from the point guard position.
I agree with everything you said minus the last three sentences.

Kobe is a volume shooter, but he is claimed by people to be the best player next to MJ. Why?

Face it, some of the best players are volume shooters. Why? Shooting allows you to gain points. Points give you a greater score than the other team. That, subsequently, wins you games.

Some of the best players are egotistical, me first, non-team players. Just my $0.02.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2009, 01:25:50 AM »

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Kobe is a lot more efficient shooter than AI or Stephon. Being a volume shooter isn't the a problem if you make enough of them. Stephon and AI have always had a problem making enough of all those shots they took.

AI had one great post-season run. That doesn't excuse all the crap through out his career.

Shooting more isn't the best answer for your team though, even if you're a great player. Take a look at this.

Besides your point doesn't make logical sense. Just because all time greats have been volume scorers doesn't make all volume scorers all time greats. Kobe and Jordan do/did a lot of other things than score. Both passed, rebounded, and defended.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2009, 01:48:52 AM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?
Knicks are still pretty bad without him. The last time the Knicks were good was when Ewing was still on the team.

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

If craziness took away from talent, Allen Iverson wouldn't be putting up 20 points a night. Face it, the best NBA players are at least a little crazy. Well...they're not the most sane people on Earth, I'll tell ya that.
Heck yes.  KG is a crazy nutjob, and nobody cares.  But you try to bring a nutjob off the bench, and people freak out.
I'd really like to know what the big deal is with his streams.  He looks happy to me, that's all that matters.  Who cares how different or strange he is?
We're hiring this guy to play BASKETBALL.  Why would you want to hire this guy at the beginning of the summer and then change your mind after seeing him online, with 0 regard to his basketball ability?  This feels like 6th grade where everyone votes for class president based on popularity.
You can hate this guy's guts, but our team would be better with him than without him and that's the bottom line.
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Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2009, 01:50:00 AM »

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Even though I don't think KG is that crazy.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2009, 02:04:29 AM »

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While I don't really want Marbury on team, the other PG options are so atrocious that I wouldn't mind him at this point.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2009, 03:54:21 AM »

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I dont understand all the Celtic Blog Psychologist, I guess that is why reality shows are so popular these days because people are just gullible enough to believe them. Stephon put a act on for the world to see & made alot of people believe that crap! People it was STAGED. A play, a opera, a sitcom. a drama & finally a freaking reality show that had zero to do with the Boston Celtics. Last time I Checked that same crazy man played gave us zero problems for over 40 games in total. So maybe it is YOU ALL who is the crazy one's for being so naive & gullible in believing everything you see on TV.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2009, 07:15:08 AM »

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Regardless of whether he's staging a show or is really crazy, he's stated that he loves playing for the Celtics, loves the Celtics organization and his teammates, and loves the Boston fans. He also wants a ring. I wouldn't mind having him back on the team if he is indeed better than the other PG options.

Re: Ainge declines to shut the door on Starbury
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2009, 07:26:17 AM »

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Nobody said Starbury doesn't have talent, or at least nobody said that he never did.  However, his craziness absolutely has detracted from that talent, which is part of the reason why the Knicks were an absolute train wreck while he was there.  I couldn't care less about Starbury hitting a game winner; do you have youtube highlights of the literally dozens upon dozens of games the Knicks lost while he was leading them?

If sanity (or lack thereof) took away from talent, KG and Sheed (two players who are known to be a little cuckoo and are on our team) wouldn't be as good as they are. KG is my favorite player, but even I'll admit that he's a little crazy.

The difference between them and Steph is they leave the craziness on the court. I don't really trust Steph at the present time since this webcam junk seems as though it is really distracting him from putting in any effort to getting back to even a fraction of his former playing self.