Boston/Houston trade idea

[Chris]

OK, so some of you are going to really not like this trade idea, but I am bored, and I think it makes a lot of sense, so I figured I would throw it out there anyways.

Boston sends Perk and Scal to Houston for Battier and Scola.

Why for Houston?  They get a young, inexpensive Center who will fit in very nicely next to Landry, and be a very nice centerpiece of their defense going forward.  They give up a couple nice players, but Battier plays the same position as their big FA pickup, and Scola is simply not as good as Perk.

Why for Boston?  They get Battier, who would really round out their rotation nicely.  He is the perfect backup to Pierce, who could help to extend his career, and he can also play some PF, like Posey did a couple of years ago.  And they get Scola to help them maintain a very deep front-court.  It is a step-down from Perk, but now that they have Wallace and Davis wrapped up, Perk is a lot more expendable, if they can get a player as good as Battier in return.

The other reason for Boston is that Perk is up for a new contract at the end of next year, and I think it is very likely he will go elsewhere for significantly more money.  He is a bargain at less than $5 million, but he won't be any more, once teams start throwing $8-10 million (or more) at him.  And given his injury history, the C's might look to sell high on him, now that they have someone else capable of playing Center (Wallace), and a very capable backup (BBD) locked up. 

[wdleehi]

Who plays C? 


Celtics would no longer have the bulky body that plays great post defense in dealing with the likes of Howard and Shaq in the playoffs. 

I really don't want to see Wallace and KG having to defend those two in back to back series. 

[Chris]

Who plays C? 


Celtics would no longer have the bulky body that plays great post defense in dealing with the likes of Howard and Shaq in the playoffs. 

I really don't want to see Wallace and KG having to defend those two in back to back series. 

Wallace and Davis can both handle Howard and Shaq pretty well, and Scola and Williams could also help out. 

I agree that it is a risky move, but which is more valuable to this team right now, Perk to battle with Howard and Shaq (even though both Davis and Wallace have proven they actually match up very well against guys like that), or having Battier to throw at Lebron, Carter, Lewis, Kobe, etc?  Honestly, I am not sure what the answer is.  But it might be a question Danny will be asking himself come trade deadline.

[wdleehi]

Who plays C? 


Celtics would no longer have the bulky body that plays great post defense in dealing with the likes of Howard and Shaq in the playoffs. 

I really don't want to see Wallace and KG having to defend those two in back to back series. 

Wallace and Davis can both handle Howard and Shaq pretty well, and Scola and Williams could also help out. 

I agree that it is a risky move, but which is more valuable to this team right now, Perk to battle with Howard and Shaq (even though both Davis and Wallace have proven they actually match up very well against guys like that), or having Battier to throw at Lebron, Carter, Lewis, Kobe, etc?  Honestly, I am not sure what the answer is.  But it might be a question Danny will be asking himself come trade deadline.

Perk. 

Don't forget his value in stepping in front of these player on the outside.  Something I expect Wallace to be able to do.  Something we did not see Davis do nearly as well. 

[fanofgreen]

Sounds good on the Celtics end,.........But Daryl Morey is not that stupid to pull off a trade for perkins. by giving up battier and scola. I couldn't see him pulling that trade off individualy: Perk for Battier or Perk for Scola. sounds nice but that would never happen

[Kwhit10]

While Battier and Scola are nice, I do not want to give up Perk for them.  He is young, he is a defensive force, and he is a nice compliment to what we have.  Never trade Big for small, we'd need a C in return.

[Roy Hobbs]

I agree with the consensus; we can't get by full-time with a 6'9" center.  In terms of value, it's a fair deal for the Celts.  In terms of fit, I believe it hurts us.

[action781]

6'9" center full-time?  Our center position would be maintained by 'Sheed. 

I also don't like the idea of trading Perk, but in this deal we get 2 very good rotational players for 1 very good rotational player. 

 I say we don't pull the trigger because we know that this team healthy can win a title.  But its a tough one...

[Chris]

I agree with the consensus; we can't get by full-time with a 6'9" center.  In terms of value, it's a fair deal for the Celts.  In terms of fit, I believe it hurts us.

Sheed isn't 6'9".  He would be our starting Center.  We would then be backing him up with a combination of shorter guys (which I agree, could be an issue).

Essentially our lineup would be:

Rondo/House
Ray/Daniels/Giddens
Pierce/Battier/Walker
KG/Scola/Davis/Williams
Sheed/Davis/Scola/Williams

That is still a hell of a front-court, with a significantly stronger perimeter rotation.

[Birdbrain]

OK, so some of you are going to really not like this trade idea, but I am bored, and I think it makes a lot of sense, so I figured I would throw it out there anyways.

Boston sends Perk and Scal to Houston for Battier and Scola.

Why for Houston?  They get a young, inexpensive Center who will fit in very nicely next to Landry, and be a very nice centerpiece of their defense going forward.  They give up a couple nice players, but Battier plays the same position as their big FA pickup, and Scola is simply not as good as Perk.

Why for Boston?  They get Battier, who would really round out their rotation nicely.  He is the perfect backup to Pierce, who could help to extend his career, and he can also play some PF, like Posey did a couple of years ago.  And they get Scola to help them maintain a very deep front-court.  It is a step-down from Perk, but now that they have Wallace and Davis wrapped up, Perk is a lot more expendable, if they can get a player as good as Battier in return.

The other reason for Boston is that Perk is up for a new contract at the end of next year, and I think it is very likely he will go elsewhere for significantly more money.  He is a bargain at less than $5 million, but he won't be any more, once teams start throwing $8-10 million (or more) at him.  And given his injury history, the C's might look to sell high on him, now that they have someone else capable of playing Center (Wallace), and a very capable backup (BBD) locked up. 

Interesting but, Battier is tad overrated, IMO and I don't want to trade the other cornerstone ( along with Rondo ) of the next decade.

So no I would stay put.

[OCsWestCeltic]

One word for this idea:  NO!

[jv2764]

I would not be surprised if the Celts moved Perk.  He is due for a big pay raise and I dont think you can afford to have both he and Rondo making $10 Mil a year.  For all that perk does he is still prone to foul trouble and while the offensive game has gotten better its still not there.  I love Battier and I also think Scola would be a good fit.  I would think about this lonh and hard especially if I dont think we cant resign both Rondo and Perk.

[Chris]

Interesting but, Battier is tad overrated, IMO and I don't want to trade the other cornerstone ( along with Rondo ) of the next decade.

So no I would stay put.

I guess I just don't see Perk as a cornerstone.  He is a very nice and valuable player on this team, and a great bargain salary.  But I don't think he is the type of player you build a team around.  And considering he is going to likely be paid  a LOT of money in two years (likely way more than his production is worth), I expect the C's to explore their options with him next summer, and maybe earlier.

[wdleehi]

Interesting but, Battier is tad overrated, IMO and I don't want to trade the other cornerstone ( along with Rondo ) of the next decade.

So no I would stay put.

I guess I just don't see Perk as a cornerstone.  He is a very nice and valuable player on this team, and a great bargain salary.  But I don't think he is the type of player you build a team around.  And considering he is going to likely be paid  a LOT of money in two years (likely way more than his production is worth), I expect the C's to explore their options with him next summer, and maybe earlier.

I see him as the perfect defensive fit next to KG.  Therefor, I am in no rush to see him traded.

[Chris]

Interesting but, Battier is tad overrated, IMO and I don't want to trade the other cornerstone ( along with Rondo ) of the next decade.

So no I would stay put.

I guess I just don't see Perk as a cornerstone.  He is a very nice and valuable player on this team, and a great bargain salary.  But I don't think he is the type of player you build a team around.  And considering he is going to likely be paid  a LOT of money in two years (likely way more than his production is worth), I expect the C's to explore their options with him next summer, and maybe earlier.

I see him as the perfect defensive fit next to KG.  Therefor, I am in no rush to see him traded.

I can't argue with that.  Just throwing it out there as a possibility.