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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #105 on: August 10, 2009, 01:46:03 PM »

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While there are way too many things I don't understand I think I'll go with my biggest, Rude people.
I just don't understand why some people have to be so rude to those around them. I mean how hard is it to say please or thank you? It's not hard to hold a door open or stop and let someone cross the street. It makes me crazy when these rude jamokes talk to the people who serve help them in a store ar coffee shop like they are some kind of inferior human being.
I mean it. I just don't get it. It's so easy to be desent to other people. It would be such a better world if people could just be civil to others.
Thanks for letting me vent and i wish you all a lovely day.

Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #106 on: August 10, 2009, 01:46:58 PM »

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I don't understand why anyone gets Diet Coke at McDonalds (or any other fast-food place).  If you are going to eat that stuff, I don't think the extra 100 calories are going to be what do you in.

Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #107 on: August 10, 2009, 01:48:31 PM »

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Here is a good one.  I was waiting in line at Comcast with my girlfriend to return her cable box on saturday.  There is a line of 7 people with one person working the counter.  A guy comes in and just starts swearing.  Yelling at her from the back of the line to move one guy to the side since he was taking to long.  while muttering swears in the back of the line to himself and those near him.  

I just leaned over and say, "So people actually act like that huh?"
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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #108 on: August 10, 2009, 02:02:59 PM »

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Suicide. If one kills oneself then they are supposedly subjected to a life of hell, in hell. However, if our lives have life plans and are mapped out for us by God, surely he'd know one would take ones life and hell should no longer be a punishment.
You seem to be forgetting about free will.
God doesn't force the punishment upon you, you choose it by taking the easy way out.
He doesn't 'map' out our lives, He just knows what will happen.  So if He knows you will reject Him, He has to let it happen despite the punishment; otherwise He'd be removing your free will and thus 'forcing' you to love Him by not giving you the option to reject Him.
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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #109 on: August 10, 2009, 02:08:08 PM »

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I don't understand why anyone gets Diet Coke at McDonalds (or any other fast-food place).  If you are going to eat that stuff, I don't think the extra 100 calories are going to be what do you in.

I can't give a 100% "Just for the Taste Of It" answer, but at this point, on the rare occasion at I'm at a McD's I get me a DC because regular sodas are too [dang] sweet for me now,
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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #110 on: August 10, 2009, 02:10:16 PM »

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I don't understand why anyone gets Diet Coke at McDonalds (or any other fast-food place).  If you are going to eat that stuff, I don't think the extra 100 calories are going to be what do you in.

I can't give a 100% "Just for the Taste Of It" answer, but at this point, on the rare occasion at I'm at a McD's I get me a DC because regular sodas are too [dang] sweet for me now,

Even though I don't eat at McDonald's, I'm a big fan of diet soda, as well.  I prefer the taste, but I imagine it's also a "limiting the harm" sort of thing.  Of course, water is the best thing for people dieting, as diet soda just makes you hungrier.

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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #111 on: August 10, 2009, 02:11:10 PM »

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Things I don't understand:

* Women

* NY / NJ drivers, and how there aren't more fatalities than there are

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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #112 on: August 10, 2009, 02:53:24 PM »

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What don't you understand, Roy?  I consider myself somewhat of an expert, having lived in this body for more than 63 years,  :D
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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #113 on: August 10, 2009, 03:21:06 PM »

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What don't you understand, Roy?  I consider myself somewhat of an expert, having lived in this body for more than 63 years,  :D

Haha.  Trust me, TB, the female gender has been explained to me many a time, but it never sinks in.  ;)

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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #114 on: August 10, 2009, 03:25:32 PM »

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"Actually, you could just go down to city hall and complain about that intersection. Obviously I don't live in your town so I don't know if it's as bad as you describe, but you could have a few neighbors complain too. Wouldn't be that hard to get it fixed if you care enough and it really is broken"

Its not an intersection.  And I'm not talking about intersections where traffic goes equally both ways.  I'm talking about the lights where a car rarely goes east/west and almost every car is going north/south, and it is not an intersection.  There are millions of traffic lights like this.

Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #115 on: August 10, 2009, 03:37:42 PM »

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"All you've done is push the problem to a different place. Instead of "wasting" 15 seconds here and there while driving north, you waste a minute every time you drive east.

Check it out. Let's suppose you drive 3 blocks east and then 12 blocks north to get to work. Pretty typical -- you get to the main road as fast as you can, use it, and then get off.

If the lights are all 60/40, let's say you waste an average of 15 seconds at every light going north. If you are going east, you wait an average of 20 seconds, just a little bit longer.

3 blocks east, 12 blocks north = 3*20 + 12*15 = 240 seconds = 4 minutes at intersections

Now let's switch the whole system to 90/10. Now when you drive north you only wait an average of 5 seconds at an intersection (woo hoo!). But, when you drive east each intersection takes a full minute while all the northbound traffic drives go by.

3 blocks east, 12 blocks north = 3*60 + 12*5 = 240 seconds = 4 minutes at intersections

BUMMER, you just wasted the exact same amount of gas!!!

You see, your assumption break down when you look at the actual system and not at just one intersection. Now do you see why traffic lights don't always work like you think they should?"

None of this makes any sense.   You are saying you go 3 blocks east and 12 cars north but that is not the ratio of drives that go that way.  It would be 3 blocks east and 30 blocks north because for every driver that goes east/west there are 10 that go north/south, so that would not be the ratio.  And I'm not talking about blocks, or city blocks I'm talking about suburb roads and such. The lights are wasing time and gas I know for a fact because I have seen it thousands of times.

Here is an example.    Suppose a north/south light goes green for 30 seconds and red for 20 seconds, which is what many are like.   Over 2:30 of time the light will turn red 3 times for north/south drivers, and 3 times for east/west drivers.  There are 20 drivers going north/south every 50 seconds and 2 drivers going east/west every 50 seconds.  It should only turn red 1 time for north/south drivers and 1 time for east/west drivers during the 2:30.   The light should be green for 2:10 north/south, and then turn red for :20 for north/south.

Watch the time and gas that is saved.   When 20 cars getting stopped twice before the 2:10 mark they waste 20 seconds each.  Which is 400 total seconds every red light.  So multiply that by 2 and it is 800 total seconds wasted for north/south drivers.  If the light only turned red once at the 2:10 mark those 800 seconds for 40 cars wouldn't be wasted.   
2 cars going east/west arrive in the first 50 seconds, so they lose 100 seconds each because they have to wait until the 2:10 mark for the green light.   2 more cars going east/west arrive in the 2nd interval of 50 seconds, so they lose 50 seconds each.   That is 200 + 100 seconds 300 total seconds wasted for the east/west drivers and 0 seconds wasted for the north/south drivers.     The other alternative which is what it is is 800 seconds wasted for the north/south drivers and 0 wasted for the east/west drivers.   Changing the light to one red every 2:30 saves 500 total seconds(800-300) for 40 drivers.     While only causing a delay for 4 drivers.   

How can you tell me this is not more gas/time efficient?

Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #116 on: August 10, 2009, 03:39:52 PM »

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Things I don't understand:

* Women

* NY / NJ drivers, and how there aren't more fatalities than there are

C'mon guys there is nothing to not understand about women.   You go into the VIP and spend $200 that is all you need to know.

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« Reply #117 on: August 10, 2009, 03:44:59 PM »

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"All you've done is push the problem to a different place. Instead of "wasting" 15 seconds here and there while driving north, you waste a minute every time you drive east.

Check it out. Let's suppose you drive 3 blocks east and then 12 blocks north to get to work. Pretty typical -- you get to the main road as fast as you can, use it, and then get off.

If the lights are all 60/40, let's say you waste an average of 15 seconds at every light going north. If you are going east, you wait an average of 20 seconds, just a little bit longer.

3 blocks east, 12 blocks north = 3*20 + 12*15 = 240 seconds = 4 minutes at intersections

Now let's switch the whole system to 90/10. Now when you drive north you only wait an average of 5 seconds at an intersection (woo hoo!). But, when you drive east each intersection takes a full minute while all the northbound traffic drives go by.

3 blocks east, 12 blocks north = 3*60 + 12*5 = 240 seconds = 4 minutes at intersections

BUMMER, you just wasted the exact same amount of gas!!!

You see, your assumption break down when you look at the actual system and not at just one intersection. Now do you see why traffic lights don't always work like you think they should?"

None of this makes any sense.   You are saying you go 3 blocks east and 12 cars north but that is not the ratio of drives that go that way.  It would be 3 blocks east and 30 blocks north because for every driver that goes east/west there are 10 that go north/south, so that would not be the ratio.  And I'm not talking about blocks, or city blocks I'm talking about suburb roads and such. The lights are wasing time and gas I know for a fact because I have seen it thousands of times.

Here is an example.    Suppose a north/south light goes green for 30 seconds and red for 20 seconds, which is what many are like.   Over 2:30 of time the light will turn red 3 times for north/south drivers, and 3 times for east/west drivers.  There are 20 drivers going north/south every 50 seconds and 2 drivers going east/west every 50 seconds.  It should only turn red 1 time for north/south drivers and 1 time for east/west drivers during the 2:30.   The light should be green for 2:10 north/south, and then turn red for :20 for north/south.

Watch the time and gas that is saved.   When 20 cars getting stopped twice before the 2:10 mark they waste 20 seconds each.  Which is 400 total seconds every red light.  So multiply that by 2 and it is 800 total seconds wasted for north/south drivers.  If the light only turned red once at the 2:10 mark those 800 seconds for 40 cars wouldn't be wasted.   
2 cars going east/west arrive in the first 50 seconds, so they lose 100 seconds each because they have to wait until the 2:10 mark for the green light.   2 more cars going east/west arrive in the 2nd interval of 50 seconds, so they lose 50 seconds each.   That is 200 + 100 seconds 300 total seconds wasted for the east/west drivers and 0 seconds wasted for the north/south drivers.     The other alternative which is what it is is 800 seconds wasted for the north/south drivers and 0 wasted for the east/west drivers.   Changing the light to one red every 2:30 saves 500 total seconds(800-300) for 40 drivers.     While only causing a delay for 4 drivers.   

How can you tell me this is not more gas/time efficient?

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Re: What don't you understand and it bugs you?
« Reply #118 on: August 10, 2009, 03:52:53 PM »

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None of this makes any sense.   You are saying you go 3 blocks east and 12 cars north but that is not the ratio of drives that go that way.  It would be 3 blocks east and 30 blocks north because for every driver that goes east/west there are 10 that go north/south, so that would not be the ratio.  And I'm not talking about blocks, or city blocks I'm talking about suburb roads and such. The lights are wasing time and gas I know for a fact because I have seen it thousands of times.

It's not a ratio. The same car goes east THEN north. People don't drive in one direction. Of course gas is wasted when people wait at lights, but your proposed solutions DON'T IMPROVE THE SITUATION if you look at the whole system.

Your example again is based around one intersection. Try scaling it out to a whole system and the routes people take. You completely miss the point if you just look at one intersection.

Anyway, enough said. Yes, I agree it sucks to sit at an intersection. But do you really think that with all of the billions of dollars spent on traffic systems, that nobody has considered how many cars go in each direction?

Sorry, but frustrated drivers fail at network flow. If they had their way, traffic would be twice as bad.

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« Reply #119 on: August 10, 2009, 03:54:31 PM »

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I gave up around the third paragraph, but TP because it seemed to make sense.

Can I have a TP then, since I wrote the whole first piece that you read? star just didn't use quoting...

(wahhhhhhhhhh, I want one)